libera/#devuan-dev/ Thursday, 2019-07-18

LeePenamesser: Hi! nice to see you back!10:55
LeePenamesser fsmithred: I have some cleanups for policykit-1 for review. However, AFAICS we could revert to Debian's package in beowulf as there is currently no consolekit there and libelogind0 now provides the libsystemd.so symlink.10:58
fsmithredlibelogind0_241.3-1 in ceres is missing i38619:22
fsmithredsomeone with multiarch enabled is having trouble upgrading19:22
LeePenyes the build failed. Centurion_Dan was going to look into it.19:57
fsmithredthanks. I know a lot of builds have been failing.20:33
amessergolinux, fsmithred: Which is the theme package I can use for testing polkit?20:43
fsmithredpossibly clearlooks-phenix-darkpurpy-theme from ascii will work; otherwise I can send you a test build of the new theme. It's not in repo yet20:48
amesseri'm fine with the clearlooks theme, i need to install xfce right?20:48
fsmithredyes20:49
fsmithreddon't try to install task-xfce-desktop in beowulf20:50
fsmithredor desktop-base20:50
fsmithredneither is ready20:50
amesserok20:50
xrogaanouch21:56
fsmithredxrogaan, did you sit on a tack?22:02
fsmithredoh, nm. I just read my own scrollback.22:02
amesseri have prepared something for polkit, but still waiting for my vm to update beowulf, so untested for now22:18
amesserhttps://git.devuan.org/amesser/policykit-1/commits/sandbox/pkexec-pass-gtk-vars22:18
amessersorry, wrong link22:19
amesserhttps://git.devuan.org/amesser/policykit-1/tree/sandbox/pkexec-pass-gtk-vars22:19
amesserI'm wondering if it ould be better to fix gtk3 :-)22:21
fsmithredyou know a way to fix the gtk3 devs?22:24
amesserlol22:27
amesserit seems for gtk4 it is an per application / user setting22:27
amesserper application - sounds non-senso to me22:28
amesserwhy would one want one application to hide scrollbars and another not...22:28
fsmithredoh, probably client-side-decorations mentality22:32
fsmithredlet each developer dictate how the user interface works22:33
fsmithredinstead of a unified desktop theme22:33
fsmithredhaving all your window controls the same in every window looks old22:33
fsmithred(I hope you can recognize sarcasm)22:34
amessersure22:35
amesseralthough i'm still not 40, i sometimes feel old when looking at young people and what they do and like ;-) But that's life, as long as o can stay with my preferrences22:37
amessereverything is ok22:37
golinuxamesser: Be prepared.  Things will change around you and you will have no choice but to adapt because those objects you prefer will disappear over time.22:39
golinuxAnd the rate of change is accelerating exponentially.22:40
amesserUnfortunately, you're right ;-)22:40
amesserpersonally, i think my time is not the worst one. I actually grew up with the computer technology starting to become important for life, so I was introduced the "slow" way to it.22:43
amesserNowadays, people are dropped into full featured, complicated and big systemd, hardly to understand as a whole..22:43
amesserI think it is hard for the youth, to use technology aside from playing and wasting time in the internet and social media22:44
amessersemms i got too much wine, hihi :-D22:45
amessers/systemd/systems22:45
drawkulathere still are systems that can be understood by one person alone.22:57
drawkulahttps://hackaday.io/project/164897-kobold-retro-ttl-computer <<< work in progress22:58
drawkulahttps://gigatron.io/23:00
drawkulaand lots of similar projects.23:00
amessersure, its good to know that people still enjoy doing other stuff than beeing entertained...23:04
amesserBut these projects have a more educative background23:04
amesseror educational - what is correct ?23:04
drawkulaI'd use educational but I'm not a native english speaker23:05
amesserok23:06

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