fsmithred | what package provides /usr/bin/su? apt-file doesn't seem to know. | 01:27 |
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fsmithred | Centurion_Dan, beowulf mini.iso now fails because devuan-baseconf is missing | 03:06 |
Centurion_Dan | at what stage does it fail?? | 03:08 |
fsmithred | finding out now. in #devuan | 03:08 |
Centurion_Dan | fsmithred: ^^ | 03:08 |
fsmithred | "Install the base system | 03:09 |
fsmithred | is there a workaround that he could do? | 03:11 |
rrq | package login installs /bin/su | 03:12 |
fsmithred | weird. | 03:14 |
fsmithred | I think /usr/bin/su comes from util-linux now. Found some bug reports about it. | 03:15 |
fsmithred | I have both, but `which su` tells me /usr/bin/su | 03:15 |
rrq | link(s)? | 03:15 |
Centurion_Dan | fsmithred: As a fix, I'll patch and rebuild devuan-baseconf for beowulf and then update debootstrap in unstable to not depend on it. | 03:16 |
Centurion_Dan | and rebuild debian-installer for unstable. | 03:16 |
fsmithred | ok, the one in suites/unstable seems benign | 03:16 |
fsmithred | cool, thanks | 03:16 |
Centurion_Dan | fsmithred: devuan-baseconf? | 03:18 |
Centurion_Dan | ok, I'll just migrate that one.. and focus on updates and fixes to debootstrap. | 03:19 |
fsmithred | yes, devuan-baseconf | 03:19 |
fsmithred | last touched by me (recently) | 03:19 |
fsmithred | rrq, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=833256#90 | 03:20 |
Centurion_Dan | fsmithred: it's removed from unstable too. | 03:26 |
fsmithred | want me to build it again? | 03:26 |
Centurion_Dan | I might be able to restore it... hang on. | 03:27 |
fsmithred | ok | 03:27 |
rrq | right. I'm using ascii. by beowulf says "util-linux: /bin/su" | 03:27 |
fsmithred | rrq, my beowulf has just /bin/su. | 03:35 |
fsmithred | and that wss an upgrade from ascii | 03:35 |
fsmithred | oh, and the ascii I checked is contaminated with some unstable | 03:35 |
fsmithred | (or whatever was unstable 18 months ago) | 03:36 |
Xenguy | On Ascii: $ dpkg -L util-linux |g su | 03:37 |
Xenguy | ^^ Ignore | 03:37 |
fsmithred | uh-oh | 03:38 |
Xenguy | $ dpkg -L util-linux |g su | 03:38 |
fsmithred | there's an un-devuanized version of util-linux in ascii-security | 03:38 |
Xenguy | This IRC client sucks at pasting | 03:38 |
fsmithred | hexchat? | 03:38 |
Xenguy | Yeah, how did you know? | 03:38 |
fsmithred | same hate | 03:39 |
Xenguy | Amazing | 03:39 |
Centurion_Dan | fsmithred: :-o | 03:39 |
Xenguy | So who does that issue with util-linux affect? | 03:40 |
fsmithred | Haines Brown, I think. | 03:40 |
Centurion_Dan | bugger... better fix that in a hurry... | 03:40 |
Xenguy | heh | 03:40 |
Centurion_Dan | I hate playing catchup with debians security updates... | 03:40 |
Xenguy | fsmithred: Is that deployed already, are just in the queue? | 03:40 |
fsmithred | it's alreay an active support ticket | 03:41 |
Xenguy | fsmithred: I just mean, could I have already installed it, or is it currently upstream from me? | 03:41 |
Xenguy | Know what I mean, jelly bean? | 03:41 |
Xenguy | In Ascii | 03:41 |
fsmithred | Centurion_Dan, should I tell him to install the plain ascii version? I think he'll be awake before I get up and before you go to bed. | 03:42 |
fsmithred | apt-cache policy util-linux | 03:43 |
fsmithred | Xenguy, ^^^ | 03:43 |
fsmithred | either yours has +devuan in the version or +deb9u1 | 03:44 |
Xenguy | Looks like the former here; thanks for that | 03:44 |
Xenguy | Althought under 'Version table:' there is mention of the latter | 03:46 |
Xenguy | But installed is definitely devuan | 03:46 |
fsmithred | Which version is higher? 2.29.2-1+devuan2.1 or 2.29.2-1+deb9u1 | 03:55 |
Xenguy | https://paste.debian.net/plainh/7d05f151 | 04:30 |
fsmithred | yup. stick with the one you have until there's a new devuan version | 04:42 |
fsmithred | which I guess is in progress now | 04:42 |
fsmithred | sleep time here. see you later. | 04:59 |
Centurion_Dan | fsmithred: lexically 2.29.2-1+devuan2.1 is higher then 2.29.2-1+deb9u1, but devuan-2.29.2+devuan2.1 is actually the security patched version even though it's not clear from the version. So to add to the confusion I've also copied it to ascii-security so they don't get the debian version. | 09:43 |
jaromil | dears, devuan-baseconf needs removal also from debootstrap | 10:01 |
jaromil | don't panick if mini.iso doesn't works now, just remove from there and respin | 10:01 |
jaromil | with parazyd we were observing all places and can remove it too | 10:01 |
onefang | jaromil: can you check the mailing list bounce errors for my sledjhamr.org address and tell me what the error actually is please? | 10:11 |
jaromil | not really sorry | 10:12 |
onefang | Is that something for parazyd then? | 10:13 |
jaromil | i'm on my way to bike to lthe lab | 10:13 |
jaromil | nope, he is no helpdesk either | 10:13 |
jaromil | but will mention if we have a look at the smtp | 10:13 |
onefang | OK. All this guessing isn't getting anywhere, I need to see the actual error messages. | 10:14 |
Centurion_Dan | jaromil: also I pushed the fixed base-files so that should fix your grub installs/upgrades for unstable and beowulf. | 10:24 |
parazyd | I reported a bug as well | 10:29 |
parazyd | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=932966 | 10:29 |
parazyd | Of course, the fix won't end up in beowulf. | 10:30 |
Centurion_Dan | there are other packages that are borked by this same failure to handle an unknown distribution | 10:31 |
Centurion_Dan | parazyd: That bug report should be marked important because it breaks our installations.. | 10:33 |
parazyd | I don't know how to do that. | 10:34 |
onefang | With parazyd's help, I may have fixed my mailing list problems. Now I just wait to see if any come new ones through. | 10:36 |
onefang | *any new ones come through* | 10:37 |
fsmithred | Centurion_Dan, are we still waiting for that version of util-linux to show up in ascii-security, or did it revert? | 12:22 |
Centurion_Dan | fsmithred: it should pop appear in the next couple of minutes.. | 12:29 |
fsmithred | cool | 12:32 |
fsmithred | it's there | 12:58 |
Centurion_Dan | so I've fixed debootstrap in unstable... and am now respinning the debian-installer for unstable. If that works ok, I'll bump to beowulf and rebuild d-i there too | 13:05 |
onefang | Yay! I got DNG email. B-) | 13:13 |
LeePen | fsmithred: Hi. Do you have any theme pacakges available? | 13:55 |
fsmithred | yes | 13:56 |
fsmithred | want email? | 13:56 |
LeePen | Yes please. | 13:58 |
fsmithred | ok | 13:58 |
fsmithred | sent | 14:02 |
LeePen | fsmithred: thanks, arrived! | 14:07 |
Evilham | onefang: was it sth on your side? | 17:34 |
onefang | The dyne email server was doing something that triggered my naughtiness blocker, so it's IP was blocked at my end. I've white listed it. I'll be keeping an eye on things, see if it does that again. | 17:37 |
onefang | It's entirely possible that the "naughtiness" was just just some disagreement our respective email servers have over what a proper SMTP command is. | 17:39 |
golinux | Good that you finally got that figured out | 17:45 |
onefang | Yep, seeing the actual error messages was a big help. | 17:46 |
drawkula | ō.ó ____( a new mini.iso? ) | 18:57 |
drawkula | 32bit? | 18:57 |
golinux | I would like to encourage everyone to pull it together for the ascii point release that includes the apt security bug. Live isos are up-to-date. Other install isos will need to be redone. Any volunteers? parazyd, what state are the arm images in? | 22:10 |
golinux | Doing this before the Beowulf release put the horse before the cart where it should be then we can move on down the road. | 22:11 |
golinux | put >puts | 22:11 |
Centurion_Dan | golinux: order of ascii point release vs beowulf release is irrelevant... | 22:24 |
Centurion_Dan | but I agree it needs to be done urgently | 22:24 |
golinux | I beg to differ. Past performance is a good future indicator. We never had a jessie point release after ascii was officially. Same would likely happen to ascii/beowulf. It is sloppy, untogether and unprofessional to leave unfinished ends dangling, imo of course. | 22:30 |
golinux | This one is more important because of the apt bug currently alive and well on the install isos. | 22:32 |
parazyd | https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20190424.084814.e0b6e859.en.html | 22:33 |
parazyd | I can build the Arm images whenever. | 22:33 |
Centurion_Dan | golinux: I agree it's important and we need to get it done. What we need is the release notes. Once we have that, we can spin the iso's and be done with it. I don't know where the release notes are, go, and what the process is, I don' | 22:41 |
golinux | We could just add something to this file. https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie/README.txt | 22:44 |
golinux | Oops that was jessie. | 22:45 |
golinux | Here are the ascii release notes: https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/Release_notes.txt | 22:45 |
golinux | All it needs is a sentence of two at the very top of the page . I can probably get that done with fsr and can make the changes on the website but have no access to files.devuan.org | 22:48 |
golinux | of > or | 22:48 |
golinux | bbiab | 22:49 |
Centurion_Dan | ... don't know | 23:16 |
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