libera/#devuan-dev/ Saturday, 2019-09-07

Centurion_DanLeePen - I saw and responded to your email about libpam-systemd.  Our solution is libpam-elogind.01:06
LeePenCenturion_Dan: Yes, thanks. I think that is all covered. I will report back once I have the systemd-sysv transitional package working.08:12
LeePenCenturion_Dan: SOrry, just read the end of your email. I think the transitional package is required, but see my reply on list.08:14
golinuxWell done, Mark!  Can't wait to put your workaround out there for testing.08:35
Centurion_DanLeePen: We09:00
Centurion_Danhave never previously had an issue with it, although we have also generally rebuilt packages depending on libpam-systemd also.09:01
Centurion_DanI'd assumed that libpam-elogind could replace libpam-systemd at any time provided that sysvinit-core was installed even when systemd was running as pid1.09:04
Centurion_Dan"gdm3" -> "libpam-systemd";09:04
Centurion_Dan"gnome-settings-daemon" -> "libpam-systemd";09:04
Centurion_Dan"libpolkit-qt-1-1" -> "libpam-systemd";09:04
Centurion_Dan"libpolkit-qt5-1-1" -> "libpam-systemd";09:04
Centurion_Dan"network-manager" -> "libpam-systemd";09:04
Centurion_Dan"udisks2" -> "libpam-systemd";urfkill, wmshutdown09:04
Centurion_Danoops...09:05
Centurion_Danso there are 8 packages depending on libpam-systemd09:05
Centurion_Dangdm3,09:06
Centurion_Dangnome-settings-daemon,09:06
golinuxThis interesting adventure doing the migration was posted to d1g.  https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=17716#p17716   Seems that the process is not as straight forward as it was for jessie and ascii.09:08
golinuxThe noose keeps tightening.09:08
Centurion_Danlibpolkit-qt-1.1 and libpolkit-qt5-1.109:11
Centurion_Dannetwork-manager09:11
Centurion_Danudisks209:11
Centurion_Danurfkill09:11
Centurion_Danwmshutdown09:11
LeePenCenturion_Dan: Yes, Debian's systemd interdependencies are even tighter and more convoluted than they were.09:36
LeePenThe real problem in terms of migration is libpam-systemd depending on systemd-sysv.09:38
LeePenOnce systemd is out of the way we have it sorted. But to make to progress smoother for wannabe migraters I think we will need this transitional help.09:40
LeePenWe are really cirsumventing #935304. The libpam-dependency on systemd-sysv is wrong. Even with systemd-sysv installed you can avoid systemd as pid 1, so it is a false requirement.09:42
LeePenI am afk until tomorrow. Will finish testing then.10:02
Centurion_DanLeePen: OK.  Thanks for spending the time to figure this out.21:13

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