libera/#devuan-dev/ Tuesday, 2019-09-17

enycHuerm ---  Whats' needed to have  beowulf-backports  available (at least to test this),   libreoffice backport and so-on?01:50
enycfrmo what I can see, it doesn't affect elogind udevd various core packages  and in any case if everythnig set-up-right,  backport packages should never take over by default unelss requested01:51
rrqenyc: beowulf-backports will spring to existence when beowulf gets locked in.02:11
rrqyou might be looking for "unstable" rather?02:12
enycrrq: no, specificially  beowulf-backports  just pointer to  buster-backports under the hood,  basically02:13
rrqyou'd have to source debian/buster-backports directly .. not something I have suggested you'd do02:17
rrqcertainly not without a respectable down-pinning02:17
fsmithredsafer to download the debs and install with dpkg.03:49
fsmithredthat might be a little painful for libreoffice03:50
fsmithredbut you won't accidentally pull in any systemd03:51
LeePenHi. Unless there are any objections I am going to merge and build the policykit updates I posted yesterday17:56
golinuxSome good news here!  Woke up to git notifications - 20-something of them - from dev1fanboy's wiki that he's been working on the documentation.17:58
golinuxI will start slogging through that today.17:59
golinuxI also made minor changes to the website yesterday.  I removed the example for a US pkg mirror since there currently isn't one.  Advised of that fact and added a link to the mirror list18:02
golinuxOther changes were more organizational and a few typos.18:02
masongolinux: FWIW, my having that comes from the installer popping it in, so we might want to address that as well.18:12
masonthat == the us mirror18:12
golinuxrrq: Centurion_Dan ^^^18:13
masongolinux: Also, I've just sent off a speculative bit of content for the free software page. I can whip up a proper diff against the markdown once it's generally agreed upon.18:13
masonI sent it to devuan-dev@18:13
golinuxI'll hop over there now.18:14
masonI didn't include anything about the impact of systemd on freedom, thinking that might be best served on a separate page.18:15
golinuxJust posted a preliminary response.  Haven't read the text completely yet and will need some food before doing that.18:36
golinuxSo please be patient.18:36
masononefang: Thanks for the corrections. Integrated.19:03
Centurion_Danhi, should be around a little more today.  Although I'm frantically trying to get my office move happening, and in particular rearranging things at home.  Fiona and wee Thomas came home yesterday and everything is going really smoothly ;-D22:59
Centurion_Dano/22:59
masonCenturion_Dan: Haven't seen you since The Event. Congrats again.23:16
masonCenturion_Dan: Do you have more, or is Thomas your first?23:17
masonCenturion_Dan: If this is your first, I can share random stuff we've gleaned that might save you some grief or buy you some sleep. :)23:17
golinuxIt's his 4th23:33
masonAh, he's probably figured it out at this point, then.23:35
masongolinux: Sorry, didn't hit "send" - I like your edits except for one bit that got muddled, but that's easily fixed.23:36
masonMy reply should be there now.23:37
masongolinux: Thinking about it, in my corrected paragraph, the third occurrance of the phrase "the software" might be better as "it".23:41
golinuxI just responded on list.23:46
golinuxIn this case, I think repetition might be a good thing to drive home the essential attributes of free software.  But I leave that choice to you.23:48
masonYeah, I was just thinking that.23:48
golinuxI will likely never do a chroot but I am good with words.  :D23:49
masonJust replied as well, to make it a unified public archive. :)23:49
masonAgreed. You made this far better than it was.23:49
golinuxCouldn't have done it without excellent material to work with23:50
masonI want to start digging into this RPi kernel thing before long.23:50
golinuxShould I pop that page into the beta site for review?23:51
masonIs there a formal review mechanism? I'm still at the bottom of the hill with regard to learning policy.23:52
golinuxWon't need much formatting but probably easier for me at this point.23:53
golinuxIt seems we are in agreement.  We can see how it looks on the page or wait a day to see if anyone else has something to say.23:54
masonI'm happy either way.23:54
golinuxThen let's wait till morning after EU has started their day23:56
masonSounds good.23:56
golinuxI'll go create the pad for this weeks meet now23:56

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