| Centurion_Dan | LeePen: o/ | 00:26 |
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| Centurion_Dan | can you give me the link for the failed arm64 build? I'll take a look today | 00:30 |
| mason | It just occured to me how irrelevant it is that we don't ship elilo, since it's a self-contained binary with no OS dependencies whatsoever. :P | 05:06 |
| mason | I can just lift it from elsewhere for now. | 05:07 |
| rrq | Centurion_Dan: LeePen's failed build= https://ci.devuan.org/job/policykit-1-binaries/architecture=arm64,label=arm64/70/console | 06:25 |
| LeePen | Centurion_Dan: rrq: Thanks | 08:13 |
| rrq | LeePen: I think I have another policykit-1 quirk for you: | 09:29 |
| rrq | policykit-1 recommends polkit-1-auth-agent | 09:29 |
| rrq | which is provided by: gnome-flashback, gnome-shell, lxpolkit, lxqt-policykit, mate-polkit, policykit-1-gnome and/or polkit-kde-agent-1 | 09:30 |
| rrq | I think that's the reason for task-xfce4-desktop resulting in pulling in lxqt-session, which happens to become its default session (although xfce4-session is also installed) | 09:32 |
| free_speech | In german devuan IRC channel someone criticized that in Raspberry Pi Devuan-Images, the kernel doesn't get updated ... I can't verify this since my Raspberry Pi is currently not even in use ... is it true that kernel updates on RPi-Images are rare? | 09:35 |
| rrq | I think many/most arm devices has the kernel in the boot image and not in the file system, so a kernel change becomes a more involved task... but check on #devuan-arm channel as well | 09:40 |
| LeePen | rrq: thanks for that. I added that recommends to work around the broken pkttyagent: | 10:49 |
| LeePen | https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/policykit-1/commit/423d821d3fb73fe16c5ded711750b795e300901d | 10:49 |
| LeePen | Maybe policykit should recommend policykit-1-gnome | polkit-1-auth-agent | 10:52 |
| LeePen | Then we will get a neutral default? | 10:52 |
| rrq | LeePen: I'm afraid I don't know enough to have much of an opinion. | 11:06 |
| LeePen | I think that will prevent pulling in a random satisfer of polkit-1-auth-agent (which is purely virtual). | 11:08 |
| LeePen | policykit-1-gnome seems the most neutral to have as a default. | 11:08 |
| LeePen | Who reported it originally? fsmithred? | 11:10 |
| rrq | no, I ran into it when I trialled the bewowulf alpha installer | 11:11 |
| rrq | -w | 11:11 |
| LeePen | OK. I will build with that fix for unstable. | 11:12 |
| LeePen | I can try a beowulf build too, but I don't know if the arm64 will build. | 11:12 |
| rrq | mmm yes beowulf would be good; I suppose I can manipulate the apt configuration between installing the base system and the desktop stuff | 11:14 |
| LeePen | OK. Just doing a quick test build here before I push. | 11:15 |
| LeePen | rrq: sort of built for unstable: ppc64el was in the middle of an update and arm64 failed as yesterday. Hope Centurion_Dan can work out what is wrong with that. | 11:50 |
| LeePen | I will redo the ppc64el in a while. | 11:50 |
| LeePen | Trying beowulf build now. | 11:50 |
| rrq | ok .. I'll pick it up when it has propagated, ~10 min, and test it | 11:51 |
| LeePen | OK. Shall I wait for the beowulf build until you have confirmed it fixed? | 11:54 |
| rrq | might be good (shouldn't be more than half an hour) | 11:55 |
| LeePen | fsmithred: golinux: The slim theme looks nice in beowulf! | 11:56 |
| rrq | LeePen: that was a crash course in pinning for me! :) but I think I got everything from beowulf except policykit-1, which I got from unstable. It resulted in 100 packages less, and only three '*lx*' (='*glx*') packages. Great. | 12:17 |
| rrq | oops that was with policykit 0.105-25+devuan6 ... | 12:19 |
| rrq | second try | 12:19 |
| rrq | ok same package count with policykit 0.105.25+devuan7 | 12:27 |
| LeePen | Excellent. | 12:28 |
| LeePen | And the arm64 rebuild has worked. Wonder shy it is flaky? | 12:30 |
| LeePen | s/shy/why/! | 12:33 |
| rrq | ok, beowulf netinstall alpha at http://borta.rrq.id.au:8081/ ... (it holds all udeb but no firmware) ready for broader testing | 12:39 |
| LeePen | Actually the arm64 build still fails. I misread amd64! Doh! | 12:45 |
| LeePen | rrq: I still have consolekit2 and xfce4-session to build for beowulf. Do you think I should wait until the arm64 build is fixed? | 12:48 |
| LeePen | That is the policykit-1 beowulf arm64 | 12:48 |
| rrq | yeah maybe give Dan a couple of days or so first | 12:50 |
| LeePen | OK. Thanks. | 12:51 |
| g4570n | Hi guys, are you aware of the problem with debian-installer in devuan repos? The package is not updated with the latest kernel version in ASCII | 17:00 |
| golinux | LeePen: Thanks. | 17:02 |
| golinux | g4570n: Yes. Painfully aware. We have been talking about a point release for 6 months or more. | 17:03 |
| golinux | We are having issues with our infra that builds them. | 17:04 |
| g4570n | 🤔 I mean something else, this is the debian-installer version changelog, on the 5th of this month they updated the kernel version. Our version of the package does not yet reflect that change. And it gives errors when you want to use it to install from a live mode. | 17:07 |
| g4570n | https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/d/debian-installer/debian-installer_20170615+deb9u7_changelog | 17:07 |
| golinux | g4570n: Sorry for the misread. Just waking up | 17:08 |
| g4570n | golinux: LOL | 17:10 |
| g4570n | No problem, I just wanted to know if they were aware of this problem. | 17:11 |
| g4570n | The maintainer of the EterTICs derivative is having problems, after generating the ISO and executing it in live mode, to install from live mode using d-i and it is because the live version uses the last kernel (4.9.0-11) and d-i is still using a previous kernel. | 17:15 |
| g4570n | golinux: Could you discuss this issue on Wednesday? | 17:19 |
| golinux | g4570n: Here's the pad for this week: https://pad.dyne.org/code/#/2/code/edit/g3u4q9dAld7TymUifitybDa1/ | 17:22 |
| golinux | Could you please post about it there? I'd probably get it wrong . . . | 17:23 |
| g4570n | ok, | 17:25 |
| golinux | You could come to the meet too! | 17:25 |
| g4570n | I practically do not speak English. I am now using g-translate 😆 | 17:27 |
| g4570n | golinux: Ready, I added it at the end. I wasn't sure where to write it | 17:38 |
| fsmithred | golinux, desktop-base now installs correctly in beowulf (Thank you, Ralph!) | 17:42 |
| fsmithred | window theme and icon theme are there | 17:42 |
| fsmithred | afk | 17:42 |
| yeti | The following NEW packages will be installed: | 17:46 |
| yeti | cinnabar-icon-theme clearlooks-phenix-cinnabar-theme gtk2-engines gtk3-nooverlayscrollbar | 17:46 |
| yeti | :-D | 17:46 |
| golinux | YEA! Victory. Thanks to fsmithred and rrq | 18:06 |
| golinux | g4570n: Thanks for doing that | 18:24 |
| g4570n | golinux: I updated the info about the error, analyzing it well, the debian-installer package, in particular, has nothing to do with the problem. | 20:06 |
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