libera/#devuan-dev/ Thursday, 2019-09-26

plasma41I'm about to name drop 5 people. Hopefully I don't get autobanned.01:37
plasma41jaromil golinux rrq mason: If any of you would like to edit or amend anything in the meet pad, please do so now. Otherwise I'm about to format the notes and post them to the list.01:39
plasma41I would have mention fsr too, but apparently he's offline.01:40
plasma41s/mention/mentioned/01:40
rrqI did a quick edit some few minutes ago, so I'm good.01:52
plasma41Time's up.02:12
golinuxThis is an excellent idea but might be good to wait till the next day because EU is already sleeping.  Survivor season started so I wasn't for your announcement and won't stay for long.  Bad timing.02:17
plasma41Notes mailed to the list02:40
plasma41golinux: I've been inconsistent getting notes posted in the past. I'm trying to force myself to do better by making sure I post notes the day of the meet. So far I succeeded in doing that for four weeks in a row.02:43
g4570nrrq: Hi, I'm seeing your answer in the pad. You suggest we have to wait until ASCII 2.1 comes out, so that d-i uses the last kernel, or did I get it wrong?02:59
golinuxg4570n: Yes, all of the ASCII isos need to be rebuilt for a point release.  You might have seen the email that is trying to organize that effort.03:10
rrqg4570n: the version is updated in the source, but the package is not updated03:11
g4570nOk, there I saw this commit: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/debian-installer/commit/9bcafc81efc1b9ce6469e2b0fe7e26b772658037 , this change takes a while until it is applied, right?03:12
rrqYes, I'm currently verifying it, and should then upgrade the ascii package(s)03:13
g4570nOk, so until the package is updated, will this list continue to point to the previous kernel? https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/ascii/main/installer-amd64/current/images/udeb.list03:17
rrqg4570n: probably.. I don't know where that file comes from, really03:39
g4570nretak_: I was seeing previous commits, and I think this file should also be updated due to the change you made https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/debian-installer/blob/suites/ascii/debian/changelog04:04
g4570nsorry rrq ^04:04
rrqyes. thanks. when the new package version is to be built04:07
masonArgh. The minimal-live image doesn't boot in UEFI mode.22:15
masonThis throws a wrench into the immediate plans.22:16
masonAnyone know offhand if the desktop-live works with UEFI?22:16
masonAlright, I'm going to do a live installer on a USB drive. That'll work.22:26
masonIf I were slicker I'd look at a netboot installer.22:27
fsmithredyes, desktop-live works with uefi22:43
fsmithredmason, is there a pre-existing linux on the computer that you plan to keep for dual-boot?22:44
masonfsmithred: There is, but it's consuming the whole disk and it'd be a bit painful resizing luks, lvm, and filesystem all.22:53
masonI'll try the desktop live image too I guess, but I think I might have a good use for the portable USB hard drive install.22:54
masonNot controlling devuan.org seems worrisome given that every install out there points to it.22:56
mason(I just passed the "pick a mirror" part of the install.)22:58
fsmithredthere's no 'pick a mirror' in the live isos23:15
masonfsmithred: But there is in debian-installer.23:29
fsmithredyeah, in the regular installer isos23:31
masonI've got a USB boot disk set up now that'll have some custom scripting and packages for doing ZFS root installs.23:35
masonIdeally I want to modify debian-installer to handle ZFS root, but this is an interim step.23:36
masonI've done Ubuntu and Slackware installs this way, more or less.23:36
masonOoh, this is interesting. I installed Linux 4.9.0-11 and udev breaks.23:39
masonThe older kernel doesn't mind booting off the USB drive. Sigh!23:40
masonHm, a new initramfs (as I needed to install the ZFS stuff) and now the new kernel boots.23:47
fsmithredIf you wanted to add zfs with one of the live isos, you could 'apt update' and then install what you need, then run the installer.23:52
masonfsmithred: That's very largely what I've done, just with a portable drive rather than a live image on a stick.23:53
masonfsmithred: Do changes to the live images persist through reboots? I'm not sure how they handle volatile data.23:53

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