libera/#devuan-dev/ Saturday, 2019-11-16

golinuxCan anyone on this list set up a torrent for the 2.1 release?05:55
golinuxWe should probably keep the 2.0.0 torrent alive because that's the only source of arm and virtual images.05:56
golinuxSo all this will require an explanation.05:57
golinuxThe 2.1 release only has the -live and installer isos.05:57
golinuxCenturion_Dan: Could you possibly do this?  I would really like to put ASCII behind us and move on.06:02
golinuxI have uploaded the visual install guide for 2.1 and also switched out the Team page to the new version.06:04
golinuxTorrent will need to go on Devuan infra and also be available on files.devuan.org06:04
golinuxSorry for jumping around so much.06:05
Jjp137hello everyone; someone mentioned on #devuan that the package updates related to DSA-4569 (affects ghostscript) haven't appeared for Devuan yet, and it seems that pkgmaster still has libgs9 and ghostscript at +deb9u5 instead of +deb9u606:43
Jjp137libgs9-common is at +deb9u6 though06:43
Jjp137this doesn't affect packages.devuan.org06:43
rrqgolinux: https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii.torrent maps the whole devuan_ascii directory tree06:52
agrisI am building zfs-linux from Debian sid on ceres12:15
agristhe changelog says they have dropped OpenRC support due to 'difficulties merging upstream'12:15
agrisI don't quite know what this means12:17
agrisdebian or Gentoo upsteam12:17
rrqcould mean "I had difficulties merging latest changes from upstream"12:39
enycgolinux: I similarly would like to see move-on, NOTABLY buster-backports appear !! =)13:22
enycuerrr beowulf-backports, please!13:22
agrishttps://upload.nuegia.net/a416086a-30d2-4b72-9a98-88f8c716c51d/screenshot.png13:55
agrislooks like in order to make this work I'll need to build a custom live cd13:57
agrisbeowulf with custom kernel modules if backports aren't built13:58
agrisbut I got ZFS 8 working in Beowulf13:58
agrisOpenRC does need some work though, it's not loading the zfs module properly13:59
agrisI'll update here when the debootstrap is done13:59
agrisenyc, you'll have to build backports yourself until Beoweef is released14:00
agrisone other small note is that it's difficult to use synaptic in Beoweef because in gtk3 the bottom scrollbar keeps popping in and out, obscuring the bottom most package information in the list14:01
agrisI am excited for the new release, especially with AppArmor MAC becoming a first class citizen14:02
agrisLXC314:03
fsmithredagris, what desktop are you using?14:46
agrisfsmithred, right now or in the virtual machine?14:47
fsmithredwherever you're getting the disappearing scrollbars14:47
fsmithredwe have a fix for that in the desktop themes14:47
agrisstock Beowulf ASCII14:48
agrissorry, I mean stock ASCII install upgraded to beowulf14:48
agrisXFCE14:48
fsmithredok, in ascii there's clearlooks-phenix-darkpurpy-theme and in beowulf there's clearlooks-phenix-cinnabar-theme14:48
fsmithredboth have fixes for the scrollbar14:49
agrisyeah that's the theme I'm using14:49
agriscinnabar14:49
fsmithredhm14:49
fsmithredmake sure it's set it two places: Appearance and Window Manager14:50
fsmithredyou're starting synaptic from the menu?14:50
golinuxHere we go again.  Thanks MinceR :18:19
golinuxhttps://lwn.net/ml/debian-vote/tslk18bd0m3.fsf@suchdamage.org/18:19
palinurowell, at least someone noticed that something was going wrong22:02
golinuxMany have noticed for some time that something was going wrong.  It has just been officially acknowledged and options suggested.  I hope it has a better result than last time this circus came to town - http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=12065222:10
agrisgolinux, what's this LWN article? I thought Debian made the decision23:07
agrisare they changing their minds?23:07
fsmithredagris, this post from Ian Jackson might put it in better perspective: https://lwn.net/ml/debian-vote/24014.36465.436524.968683@chiark.greenend.org.uk/23:24
fsmithredit's about cooperating with those who want to develop/maintain alternate init systems23:25
* agris sigh23:30

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