| golinux | Can someone please check if the magnet link on the website provides the complete list ascii installation media? | 01:49 |
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| golinux | It's on the index page of devuan.org | 01:49 |
| golinux | I've been reading about magnet links but not quite sure what to do with it. | 01:52 |
| fsmithred | open it with transmission | 01:53 |
| fsmithred | well, I can't see the individual files in transmission, and in qbittorrent I see all the files listed, but only their size, not their names. | 01:58 |
| g4570n | golinux: I get the file list empty | 01:59 |
| golinux | Hmmm . . . | 02:00 |
| golinux | fsnithred: I tried transmission but wab't quite sure what is was doind. Didn't look like anything actually. | 02:01 |
| golinux | Oy typos. | 02:01 |
| golinux | fsmithred: ^^^ | 02:01 |
| golinux | Should I leave it there or should I remove it or does it need to be redone.? | 02:02 |
| golinux | If option 3 . . . can someone please create the appropriate magnet link? | 02:04 |
| fsmithred | looks like it's got all the 2.0 isos and images | 02:20 |
| fsmithred | downloading now, and it made the directories and files | 02:20 |
| fsmithred | did plasma make a new torrent for 2.1? | 02:21 |
| golinux | No. He never said he would. Just for arm images | 02:21 |
| golinux | Does the magnet have 2.1 also? | 02:22 |
| fsmithred | nope | 02:22 |
| golinux | Hmmmm . . . the torrent does. rrq put it together. | 02:23 |
| golinux | So we'll probably need a new magnet link | 02:23 |
| fsmithred | the torrent should be redone, too. It still includes the old isos. | 02:25 |
| fsmithred | so... | 02:26 |
| fsmithred | that would make it 42GB instead of 21 | 02:26 |
| golinux | It should include them IMO | 02:28 |
| fsmithred | why? | 02:29 |
| golinux | And the arm images from 2.0.0 | 02:29 |
| fsmithred | they should be removed | 02:29 |
| golinux | Something for next week's meet. | 02:29 |
| fsmithred | I suggested we keep them for a short time until we were sure the 2.1 isos were good | 02:29 |
| agris | Is it possible to have /var and / on separate mountpoints with the Devuan initramfs solution? | 03:51 |
| kilobyte | no reason it shouldn't, unless it's significantly changed from Debian | 03:56 |
| kilobyte | initramfs -> you can have any splits you wish; mount restrictions apply only to non-initramfs | 03:56 |
| agris | So I got the full zfs8 zroot working in beowulf | 04:08 |
| agris | installing xfce now via tasksel | 04:08 |
| agris | i'm asking because apparently due to cancerd /var and /usr can't be on separate mountpoints (ZFS datasets) | 04:13 |
| agris | wasn't sure if this effected Devuan though | 04:13 |
| kilobyte | that's not just systemd, even for sane inits possible chains of tools were so nasty they were unmanageable | 04:23 |
| kilobyte | eg. some companies systems off samba mounts that require authentication via a remote database of some kind | 04:24 |
| kilobyte | every single involved program and library would need to be in /bin /lib | 04:24 |
| kilobyte | so maintainers of random packages would have to move their packages just because something unrelated gained a feature that uses some library | 04:25 |
| agris | Is that still an issue? | 04:26 |
| kilobyte | (not to be confused with "usrmerge" which is brain damage not related to requiring /usr on same filesystem if there's no initramfs) | 04:26 |
| agris | https://pad.dyne.org/code/#/1/edit/YakleTpFfQ9KHXt+ggqgSQ/BJYL0QHRoy9LmLEObTTKmzAH/ in here | 04:27 |
| kilobyte | yes, but it applies only if you don't use an initramfs | 04:27 |
| agris | under init-awareness | 04:27 |
| agris | are you guys talking about modifying dpkg to read an LSB | 04:27 |
| agris | and not indiscriminately place files in /etc/init.d ? | 04:28 |
| agris | is that the plan or is that idea not set in stone | 04:28 |
| agris | actually, Can I contribute to this? I don't need any special permissions do it? | 04:28 |
| fsmithred | that pad is old. Has anyone edited it recently? | 04:30 |
| fsmithred | other than right this second | 04:30 |
| agris | should I be editing something else? | 04:53 |
| fsmithred | maybe post something on the pad for the next meeting | 05:01 |
| fsmithred | the link will be provided here and on devuan-dev mailing list a couple days from now | 05:01 |
| fsmithred | or post a question to the mailing list | 05:02 |
| fsmithred | but the stuff you read on that pad is more than a year old | 05:02 |
| fsmithred | time for sleep. see you later. | 05:03 |
| agris | done | 05:04 |
| golinux | agris: Regarding the post-ascii bikeshed pad . . . It is easy to write and discuss amd plan. It is not so easy to realize those ideas. | 06:00 |
| golinux | Well summarized in this post: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20190607.092048.f69837e4.en.html | 06:05 |
| golinux | A draft of the "official" ASCII 2.1 release is here: https://pad.dyne.org/code/#/2/code/edit/D+ChmluW+TT9QPdOVO9q0rpf/ | 22:49 |
| golinux | Please do a final review. Comments go beneath the ============= | 22:50 |
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