| onefang | fsmithred: I know Kali, and have a copy, but haven't learned how to use it yet. The main problem I have with it is the same problem I have with all rolling distros, eventually it'll tie itself in knots during an update and I have to reinstall it. I'd love to be able to get all the tools into a Devuan install. I've installed forensics-all, but never checked to see what was missing. Your monster migh | 02:22 |
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| onefang | t be good to be cleaned up and turned into a security-all metapackage. | 02:22 |
| fsmithred | onefang, I'll get you the link to the script. I had to modify it to remove the packages that don't exist. | 02:23 |
| fsmithred | by cleaning up the script, I was able to install all the apps at once | 02:24 |
| fsmithred | 4.5GB worth | 02:24 |
| fsmithred | it's also possible to select the tools individually for install | 02:24 |
| onefang | By moving those tools to my Devuan partition, I can free up the 15 GB Kali partition. Worth it. B-) | 02:26 |
| fsmithred | https://github.com/LionSec/katoolin | 02:28 |
| fsmithred | interactive script lets you add kali repos, install stuff, remove kali repos | 02:29 |
| onefang | Ah so it basically installs Kali repos on top of any apt based system then. | 02:30 |
| * onefang adds playing with that to one of my TODOs, for my copious free time. | 02:31 | |
| onefang | Along side "Make a Devuan based version of Qubes / Whonix, call it Quvian, Quvuan, Quevuan?". B-) | 02:34 |
| fsmithred | oh, let me know when you do that last one | 02:37 |
| fsmithred | I tested the katoolin with a Refracta beowulf iso. The install went well. | 02:38 |
| onefang | I have TODO lists that just list my other TODO lists, don't hold your breath. lol | 02:38 |
| * Evilham mentions org mode and shamelessly leaves the conversation | 02:40 | |
| onefang | I have something I call Magic Pixie Dust, it's a micro SD card with about 20 operating systems installed on it, with a great variety of tools. It includes Devuan, Kali, and Qubes. Combining some of them would be great. | 02:41 |
| onefang | I like to carry it and a micro SD to USB adapter with me, I can boot it on almost anything, and do almost anything. | 02:42 |
| * rrq looks again at that iffy dish washer | 02:46 | |
| fsmithred | will it run linux? | 02:48 |
| onefang | It probably does already, a lot of appliances do these days. | 02:48 |
| * golinux removed working dishwasher and installed a custom cabinet for all those pyrex sauce pans and pots etc. | 02:49 | |
| rrq | (sorry; should be #debianfork -- I'm just idling while watching bush fire news) | 02:51 |
| onefang | I don't think hiding inside dishwashers helps against bush fires. | 02:52 |
| fsmithred | you have to run it | 02:53 |
| onefang | But not with hot water. | 02:54 |
| fsmithred | ouch | 02:54 |
| fsmithred | so... | 02:54 |
| fsmithred | I could make a live iso with a lean desktop and include katoolin, and anyone could make their own kalified-devuan | 02:54 |
| fsmithred | although it might not work in a few months | 02:55 |
| onefang | That's typical of Kali anyway. | 02:55 |
| onefang | Rolling distros, blegh. | 02:55 |
| fsmithred | have you looked at parrotsec to compare? | 02:56 |
| onefang | Nope, it might be on a TODO somewhere. I ran out of space on my micro SD card for more distros. | 02:57 |
| fsmithred | I do that with usb sticks all the time | 02:57 |
| onefang | And I can't afford a bigger one. lol | 02:57 |
| fsmithred | rm -r | 02:57 |
| fsmithred | if you use live systems, they take up less space | 02:59 |
| onefang | Some of them are live systems. | 02:59 |
| onefang | I gathered a bunch of distros to build a swiss army knife, some are general purpose, some are for demo purposes, some are specific to some function. And one partition just holds lots of docs, and even the portable Windows apps. | 03:01 |
| onefang | And one of them is a bootable space invaders game with no OS. lol | 03:02 |
| onefang | rrq do you still have the source for your thttpd on your server, and maybe your build script if you used one? I want to experiment on my desktop with getting it to support the PHP used by those apt-panopticon graphs. | 03:07 |
| rrq | ok. I packaged thttpd-2.29.tar.gz | 03:31 |
| rrq | I'll set it up on devuan's git store | 03:31 |
| onefang | Thanks. | 03:33 |
| rrq | git@git.devuan.org:ralph.ronnquist/thttpd.git | 03:37 |
| * onefang clones it. | 03:38 | |
| onefang | That's my task for the day, unless it turns out to be easy. | 03:38 |
| onefang | Nothing ever turns out to be easy. lol | 03:38 |
| rrq | that one was mid 2018 for me, and probably the packaging was done in one of the few wrong ways | 03:41 |
| onefang | The important thing is I end up with as close to identical with what you have installed, which is why I was hoping you had a build script. B-) | 03:41 |
| onefang | It's the standard three step build though, usually not worthy of a build script. | 03:42 |
| rrq | it would have been manual: dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -B | 03:42 |
| onefang | Meh, no build options worth worrying about anyway. B-) | 03:43 |
| onefang | Ah, you wrote the Debian stuff. | 03:44 |
| rrq | yes that's all mine I'm afraid. | 03:45 |
| onefang | It helps. | 03:46 |
| onefang | Coz you ended up with a different result than the standard three step. But I wanted what you are actually running, so now I have it. B-) | 03:54 |
| * onefang gives it PHP lessons. | 04:07 | |
| onefang | OK, taught it to speak PHP, but it speaks with a stutter. Progress! | 06:26 |
| onefang | Cured the stutter. B-) | 07:12 |
| onefang | Finished, and obviously it wasn't easy. I blame PHP, it's a language that begins with the letter P, thus it is evil. | 09:49 |
| onefang | http://borta.devuan.dev/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html is now a fully functional apt-panopticon instance, courtesy of rrq. | 09:52 |
| onefang | The hard part was the graphs, which used someone elses PHP package, and his web server is a tiny thing that didn't support PHP, but did support CGI. Now it's using php-cgi. | 09:57 |
| onefang | Now that it's getting dark and cooling down, I'm off grocery shopping. | 09:58 |
| gnu_srs | LeePen: I can close 2 of 4 bugs for eudev. Do you want me to push again? | 10:54 |
| gnu_srs | The remaining three I cannot test: #222, #257, #261. Correction: 2of 5: #202, #334. | 10:56 |
| gnu_srs | Centurion_Dan: What is your problem with eudev? | 10:57 |
| LeePen | gnu_srs: Great, thanks. | 11:04 |
| LeePen | jaromil: we need your help with bugs.d.o, please. | 11:53 |
| gnu_srs | Correction: 2 of 5: #292, #334 (closing #333, but does not seem to being closed) | 11:57 |
| LeePen | gnu_srs: No, bugs.d.o is not responding to emails at the moment. That is why I am trying to get hold of jaromil. | 11:58 |
| gnu_srs | rrq: Any ideas about #222 reported by you? | 12:01 |
| rrq | knows nothing :) that was someone reporting on the forum, then by the looks of it ended up with a fix | 12:04 |
| rrq | though, the issue probably was with hdparm.rules, which belongs to hdparm, more than eudev | 12:08 |
| LeePen | I have just updated elogind in beowulf, with the added benefit that it aligns the versions in all the architectures. | 13:46 |
| LeePen | Also jenkins-debian-glue for unstable/beowulf and ascii-proposed. | 13:47 |
| LeePen | Let me know of any problems. | 13:47 |
| LeePen | Oh, and I updated distro-info-data in beowulf as well. | 14:21 |
| cosurgi | I just did an innocent aptitide update on beowulf. Among few updated packages was elogind. Afterwards all my xsessions got killed. Xorg exited with exit code 1. | 18:05 |
| cosurgi | There was only about 10 updated packages. | 18:05 |
| cosurgi | Am I correct to suspect that elogind is responsible for that? For example it restarted and forgot about all opened xsessions? | 18:05 |
| LeePen | Hmmm. The logind sessions should persist across restarts. | 18:20 |
| LeePen | Do you have the xorg logs? | 18:20 |
| fsmithred | cosurgi, did you reboot or log out after upgrade? | 18:38 |
| cosurgi | LeePen, fsmithred: thanks, gnarface is already helping me on #devuan | 18:43 |
| fsmithred | yeah, I see. I was going to tell you which packages to install for the polkit stuff, but if you can get by without all of it, life may be easier. | 18:45 |
| LeePen | cosurgi: Were you upgrading i386 by any chance? If so I can explain this and it won't happen again ;) | 19:44 |
| cosurgi | LeePen: it is possible that yes. It is a very strange config which I have, but my rox-session binary is actually i386. Even though everything else is amd64. I just never got around to recompile it on amd64. | 19:47 |
| cosurgi | ~/usr/share/ROX/ROX/ROX-Session/Linux-ix86/ROX-Session: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV) | 19:47 |
| cosurgi | it is the only i386 binary which I have. | 19:47 |
| cosurgi | and keep running. | 19:47 |
| LeePen | OK. That explains it. The i386 version of elogind in beowulf was so old it still had the bug that deleted active sessions on restarts and upgrades. | 19:48 |
| LeePen | That was fixed in version 239.3-3. | 19:49 |
| LeePen | So it should be fine from now on. | 19:49 |
| cosurgi | but now I have completely purged elogind from my system (and dbus and consolekit). Now looking how to pin them down to never have them back. | 19:49 |
| LeePen | OK, if that is what you want. | 19:50 |
| cosurgi | gnarf on #devuan encouraged me to give it a try :) So I will try. | 19:50 |
| LeePen | No worries. Your choice. I just wanted to explain the behviour and be sure there isn't a bug lurking somewhere. | 19:51 |
| cosurgi | LeePen: yeah, thanks! I love devuan community :) | 19:52 |
| * Evilham is very glad LeePen is around doing elogind | 23:00 | |
| * plasma41 agrees. LeePen is doing great work. | 23:35 | |
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