| onefang | The use of country specific package mirror domains, like nl.deb.devuan.org, is deprecated? I think they all point to pkgmaster anyway. And are these domains used in the installer CDs? | 00:12 |
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| onefang | My new server was installed from a Devuan ASCII CD installer as far as I can tell, and it had nl.deb.devuan.org in the sources list. | 00:13 |
| fsmithred | onefang, yes. Don't take the first choice of mirrors in the installer. | 00:17 |
| onefang | I didn't do the install, but I will suggest to them that they select my own mirror, since it's in their colo, it'll be the fastest. | 00:18 |
| fsmithred | someday that will be fixed. Either country codes will actually do something or the installer udeb responsible will be rebuilt. Whichever comes first. | 00:19 |
| fsmithred | that'll work best | 00:19 |
| onefang | Yeah, I vaguely recalled that, hence my question. | 00:20 |
| onefang | I had asked them to include a separate partition, so I can debootstrap the real OS. Their install was just a temporary one anyway. | 00:23 |
| fsmithred | you could have the boot a refracta CD and debootstrap from the live environment | 00:25 |
| fsmithred | over ssh if you wanted | 00:25 |
| fsmithred | have *them* | 00:25 |
| onefang | They are just learning about Devuan I think, it wasn't an option on their order page, I asked for it specifically. | 00:28 |
| onefang | So I think a magic hand grabbed an install CD, found there was an nl.deb.devuan.org option, and went with it, being in Amsterdam. | 00:32 |
| fsmithred | it's really tempting to go with the country code when it's first on the list and highlighted. | 00:35 |
| fsmithred | we do have a mirror in nl, don't we? | 00:35 |
| fsmithred | everyone over here picks us, but we don't even have a mirror. | 00:35 |
| onefang | We have several mirrors in NL, including mine. | 00:46 |
| gnu_srs | LeePen: Is the problem with bugs.devuan.org fixed? | 10:24 |
| Evilham | doesn't depend on him and there haven't been news, probably not | 10:59 |
| LeePen | Not as far as I know. Haven't had a response from jaromil. | 10:59 |
| LeePen | Sorry. | 10:59 |
| Evilham | nothing to be sorry about :-p | 11:00 |
| Evilham | onefang: nl.deb.devuan.org resolves to pkgmaster, which is in AMS at Dyne's | 11:00 |
| Evilham | actually there seems to be a CNAME: *.deb.devuan.org --> pkgmaster.devuan.org | 11:01 |
| LeePen | I feel sorry! It's a bit frustrating :( | 11:02 |
| Evilham | I understand, but try not to be sorry when it doesn't depend on you | 11:02 |
| LeePen | Good advice! | 11:03 |
| Evilham | I'm better at giving those than applying them to myself :-) | 11:03 |
| LeePen | I am sure that applies to most of us ;) | 11:19 |
| gnu_srs | Maybe devuan should not have infrastructure with only one person having root access. Just a thought :D | 11:31 |
| Evilham | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it's not generalised or by choice that that happens | 11:33 |
| LeePen | I have just built slim 1.3.6-5.1+devuan6 for unstable. It installs in beowulf. Could somebody else test it for me, please, before I migrate it. | 16:07 |
| golinux | gnu_srs: One person access isn't the issue. It's still on dyne's infra and those with access are not currently active and still on holiday I think. | 16:23 |
| gnu_srs | golinux: How much of devuan infra is still hosted on dyne? | 16:25 |
| golinux | bugs and dev1galaxy iirc. | 16:28 |
| golinux | The migration plans have stalled out a bit. | 16:29 |
| LeePen | I have just forked and built sshguard. The buster version required journalctl as reported by KatolaZ in #358. | 19:50 |
| LeePen | Does anybody here actually use it? | 19:50 |
| fsmithred | I've heard of it, but I don't know what it is. | 19:51 |
| fsmithred | btw, I'm going to test new slim in a few minutes. | 19:51 |
| LeePen | fsmithred: thanks. It works for me, but it would be good to have confirmation before I promote it to beowulf. | 19:52 |
| fsmithred | LeePen, I'm having trouble doing a regular upgrade of beowulf that is from mid-december | 20:14 |
| fsmithred | task-print-server wants tasksel 3.53 and is not happy with 3.54+devuan1 | 20:15 |
| fsmithred | LeePen, new slim works here. I tried login a few times and also reboot. | 20:22 |
| LeePen | It is renamed t task-print-service :( | 20:28 |
| LeePen | I think there might be a provides/replaces needed. | 20:28 |
| LeePen | Leave it with me. | 20:28 |
| LeePen | Good news about slim. Was that using consolekit or elogind? Fine for me too. | 20:29 |
| gnu_srs | LeePen: Regarding elogind, see #devuan! | 20:29 |
| fsmithred | slim with consolekit here. | 20:30 |
| fsmithred | installed from desktop-live | 20:31 |
| LeePen | gnu_srs: Just looked at the log, what are you referring to? | 20:57 |
| gnu_srs | what log, git or changelog, for eudev-3.2.9-1? | 20:59 |
| LeePen | Sorry, no the #devuan log. | 20:59 |
| LeePen | ^^^ What about elogind? | 21:00 |
| gnu_srs | (08:30:09 PM) srs: I have an updated version not yet available. With a lot of eudev.{pre,post},{inst,rm} changes. Testing now. | 21:00 |
| gnu_srs | Sorry, I meant eudev :D | 21:01 |
| LeePen | Oh, OK. Great. | 21:01 |
| LeePen | fsmithred: slim_1.3.6-5.1+devuan6 is in beowulf. | 21:04 |
| LeePen | fsmithred: rrq: I have cherry picked a fix for the missing task-print-server from upstream. | 21:11 |
| LeePen | Building shortly. | 21:11 |
| LeePen | That is tasksel 3.54+devuan3 built for unstable. It has a task-print-server transitional package. | 21:31 |
| fsmithred | they all installed with tasksel | 21:49 |
| fsmithred | LeePen, did a dep for orage get lost? apt wants to remove it. | 21:52 |
| fsmithred | task-xfce-desktop should want orage | 21:58 |
| gnu_srs | For some reason unknown: apt-get -t beowulf dist-upgrade: The following packages have been kept back: rpcbind | 22:14 |
| gnu_srs | Have to install it manually. | 22:14 |
| LeePen | fsmithred: I am not aware I changed dep on orage, but I will check. | 22:49 |
| LeePen | fsmithred: task-xfce-destop depends xfce4 whcih depends orage? | 23:01 |
| fsmithred | no. In ascii, task-xfce-desktop depends on orage | 23:07 |
| fsmithred | hm | 23:07 |
| fsmithred | in ascii, xfce4 depends on orage | 23:07 |
| fsmithred | but beowulf it doesn't | 23:08 |
| fsmithred | upstream change | 23:09 |
| LeePen | That is the difference then. | 23:09 |
| LeePen | Yep. | 23:09 |
| fsmithred | ok | 23:09 |
| fsmithred | it's just a clock/calendar | 23:09 |
| LeePen | Yes. I think xrce4 is just the basics to which you can add what you want. | 23:10 |
| LeePen | fsmithred: There is a tasksel changelog entry saying it was removed because orage would be removed before buster. | 23:22 |
| fsmithred | wow | 23:23 |
| LeePen | But orage is still in buster! But not ceres. | 23:29 |
| fsmithred | 4.12.1-7 10 | 23:32 |
| fsmithred | 10 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ceres/main amd64 Packages | 23:32 |
| fsmithred | -6 in beowulf | 23:33 |
| LeePen | Do you want to reinstate the dep? | 23:34 |
| fsmithred | I think xfce is 4.14 in sid | 23:34 |
| fsmithred | no, don't bother | 23:34 |
| LeePen | OK. | 23:34 |
| LeePen | Bedtime. Bye! | 23:39 |
| fsmithred | xfce4 is 4.14 in bullseye, and it has the same old version of orage | 23:39 |
| fsmithred | g'night | 23:40 |
| LeePen | OK, so it didn't get removed after all! | 23:41 |
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