libera/#devuan-dev/ Wednesday, 2020-01-15

golinuxThe pad for this week's meet is here: https://pad.dyne.org/code/#/2/code/edit/a8HTsEqD3u-Ry8QM2wElNrJn/07:34
LeePengolinux: Thanks, got the css and favicon. Will put them on this morning.08:32
golinuxGreat! I am working on popcon too but don't think that has been migrated yet08:38
golinuxThat's on fulcanelli, right?08:39
golinuxpkginfo is about finished but I want to be awake when you switch the files in case it breaks.08:40
LeePenYes popcon is still fulcanelli.08:40
golinuxI am working off of source code captured from the live pages.  The actual set up is pretty fragmented08:41
golinuxonfangCan you please fix your connection?08:41
golinuxLet's try onefang08:41
golinuxSo there's something I might have missed.08:42
golinuxI'll ping you when I'm up tomorrow.08:43
LeePenI won't get to it for about 2 hours, so if you want to sleep and change pkginfo around 1700 UTC, that is fine for me.08:43
onefangI'm testing stuff, which means I have to bring this connection up and down a bit.  I think I'm almost done with these tests.08:43
golinuxLeePen: I'll probably be up by then.08:43
golinuxpopcon will have to wait a while.  I just wanted to do it while it's fresh in my memory.08:45
golinuxI may send the email before I head to bed though.08:45
golinuxLeePen: I just noticed that we should probably add a link in the nav bar to pkginfo.08:52
LeePenOK. Sounds good. Off to feed the donkeys!08:52
* golinux likes donkeys08:53
LeePengolinux: You are probably asleep, but the new css and favicon.png is on bugs.d.o. There is also a favicon.ico. Delete?10:35
rrqyes .. the .ico is the jessie swoosh even10:43
rrqbut 40x40 is an odd size, isn't it?10:44
LeePenYes, my browser won't load it.12:44
LeePenceres debootstrap is broken at the moment.13:12
LeePenIt seems to be related to the old version of util-linkx we have there whilst we get beowulf finished.13:12
LeePenI am reluctant to fix it before beowulf as we could pull in more unstable dependencies to beowulf.13:15
enycLeePen: can always beowulf-backports later or beowulf-updates13:17
LeePenMaybe. There are a couple of new packages for beowulf coming that I would like to get through first: amesser has tomcat9 and I have dnscrypt-proxy.13:19
LeePenExisting ceres installs are OK AFAICS, it is just a pre-depends that breaks debootstrapping.13:20
yetibeowulf: sawfish-config oesnt run on x86 but does on amd64 and the buil-eps are broken on x86 (I had the iea of rebuilding it but...)14:10
yetiI'd like to itch DEs and switch back to sawfish but I nee it on x86/amd64 and the usual arm suspects14:11
yeti(-: 1 defect finger... all typos are free today and may be kept by the finder :-)14:12
yetisawfish itself runs on PC archs but without the config tool it is no fun14:13
LeePenyeti: those are debian packages we don't fork. Have a look on the Debian BTS.16:04
yetibuild-dep works for sawfish in deb1016:31
yetisawfish-config does not too16:31
yetiso 50% looks devuan specific16:32
LeePenWhich build dep is missing?16:37
yetisomething with gtk216:37
yetiI'll look at it later16:37
yetirebuilt sawfish(-config) works in a deb10 vm16:38
yetibut I coulnt rebuild it on beowulf yesterday16:38
yetiapt and apt-get just cough, aptitude suggests a solution... trying16:49
yetiI didnt try aptitude yesterday... fails to build with some ld error because of libgio now16:55
yetigiving up16:55
golinuxLeePen: rrq: I'm up and sort of awake.  Yes the favicon is an odd size but worked in userChrome.css17:13
golinuxI can generate 32x32 and 48x48.17:14
golinuxI was trying to split the difference17:15
LeePenMorning!17:19
golinuxHi.  Give me a minute to get organized.17:26
golinuxLeePen: Just sent the pkginfo css and some favicons.  More favicons to come if those work.18:13
LeePen Got them18:15
* golinux starts to sweat . . .18:20
LeePenLooks nice!18:23
LeePensearch.css is in18:24
LeePenAnd the dyne.png18:25
LeePenand beo-fav-32.png as favicon.png, but I can't see that?18:26
LeePen18:26
golinuxIt's not working? Does it still need to be an ico?18:29
golinuxI don't think I've had to do an ico for devuan before.18:30
golinuxfavicons go in the root directory of the site.  I'll check it out now.18:31
LeePenYes, it is there: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/favicon.png18:32
golinuxOooo . . .index page looks nice18:32
golinuxI just seved the link and it's still the green one.  Could be a cache issue18:33
golinuxsaved18:33
golinuxNope cache didn't fix it.   Wait . . . doesn't the favicon have to be defined in the head of the page?  I'm not seeing that.  Let me go dig out the magic incantation . . .18:41
golinux<link rel="shortcut icon" type="image/x-icon" href="/favicon.ico" />18:42
golinuxThat's what I used to use.18:43
golinuxYup.  That's what's on the devuan site.18:44
golinuxI've got to remember how to do that conversion.18:44
golinuxThe searchbox is too small.  I I think I know how to fix that but it may break something else.18:47
golinuxAnd there's an issue in FF that there is no space after the dyne logo and following text.  Pale moon and chromium are fine.18:51
golinuxI'll try to track down these little annoyances.18:51
LeePenLooks goo though.18:52
golinuxYeah, overall looks fine but those little flaws are annoying18:52
golinuxWhat's your schedule so I can plan food and fixing this stuff?18:53
LeePenI noticed the BTS link on pkginfo is wrong and presumably you want capitalised Download and Donate?18:54
golinuxYes.  Just first letter on the caps18:55
golinuxThe BTS link needs to be removed and replaced with something I can't remember atm.  I have notes on one of my 7 desktops.18:56
golinuxNo forget that.  The url needs to be changed18:56
golinuxI'm working pf of old page captures so some things are not quite up to date.  I need to check all the details.  Will take notes.18:57
golinuxoff of18:57
golinuxpkginfo did not exist when the nav links were created fo a think to "Packages" needs to be added where needed.  Here's a little chart that I put together:19:05
golinuxOMG . . .so a link19:05
golinuxBTS19:05
golinux Home | Devuan | Git | Forum | Packages | Popcon19:05
golinuxpkginfo19:05
golinux Home | Devuan | Git | Forum | BTS | Popcon19:05
golinuxpopcon19:05
golinux Home | Devuan | Git | Forum | BTS | Packages19:05
golinuxI can send you drop in code for that later today19:06
golinuxI thin the footer issue can be fixed by adding a space before Dyne.org foundation like this:  title="Learn about our fiscal sponsor"> Dyne.org foundation</a>19:11
golinuxThat hopefully will make FF happy19:12
LeePenOK. I will probably have to do that tomorrow.19:22
LeePengolinux: I have to go out pretty soon. No major problems?19:35
golinuxNot reall except for needing too update links on the nav bar19:38
golinuxreally19:38
golinuxThis is what drives web  designers crazy:19:38
golinuxhttp://dev1galaxy.org/files/chromium-ff-palemoon.png19:38
golinuxCould you maybe add that space in the footer to see if it makes FF happy?  If no time, no problem19:40
golinux title="Learn about our fiscal sponsor"> Dyne.org foundation</a>19:41
golinuxAdd space between > and Dyne19:41
golinuxI'll email new header markup later19:42
golinuxHave a good rehearsal19:42
LeePenIt will have to be tomorrow. pkginfo take a bit of time to update bcause the templates are /fisc19:46
LeePenWrong window!19:46
LeePenOK it is there on https://pkginfo.devuan.org/index.html19:48
LeePenThe template for the cgi is compiled in and will have to wait.19:48
LeePenDoes that help?19:48
LeePenBack in about 3 hours.19:49
rrqLeePen: https://bugs.devuan.org/favicon.ico 404 Not Found22:08
rrqit needs to be named like so. can be a 32x32 or 48x48 .png22:08
golinuxrrq: I have sent some 32 and 48 px pngs to LeePen but I think they need to be converted to ico.22:17
golinuxIt's on my list.  Have to remember how I used to do that.22:17
rrqdoesn't need conversion; only renaming. or favicon.ico can be a link to the achoosen .png file22:18
masongolinux: https://peppoj.net/2010/09/how-to-create-a-website-favicon-favorite-icon-using-gimp/22:19
masonrrq: It ... doesn't have to be a Windows "ICO" ?22:19
masonfavicon.ico: MS Windows icon resource - 1 icon, 16x16, 16 colors22:20
mason...is what I've always used22:20
rrqhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Favicon22:21
masonrrq: Firefox didn't get support for that until 2003. Do you really expect us to follow this level of churn, this breakneck pace?22:22
rrq:)22:23
masonrrq: Ooh, and egg on my face. The favicon.ico I use for my site is from October of 2004. It could have been a PNG.22:23

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