| xrogaan | This one seems stuck since a month ago: https://ci.devuan.org/view/suites-99-unstable/job/refractasnapshot-base-repos/20/ | 13:12 |
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| fsmithred | xrogaan, about a month ago we migrated from ci.devuan.org to a new ci | 13:16 |
| fsmithred | jenkins.devuan.dev | 13:16 |
| xrogaan | I'm just following links | 13:17 |
| fsmithred | links on website or email? | 13:18 |
| xrogaan | website | 13:18 |
| xrogaan | > https://www.devuan.org/os/development | 13:18 |
| fsmithred | thanks | 13:20 |
| xrogaan | it'd be nice to have devuan.dev list all the useful links, without the fluff | 13:20 |
| fsmithred | golinux, please change link for ci.devuan.org to jenkins.devuan.dev on this page: https://www.devuan.org/os/development | 13:20 |
| xrogaan | devuan.org is nearly unusable for me, links are hidden within pages. | 13:21 |
| fsmithred | yeah, a site map would be good | 13:22 |
| xrogaan | I like the archlinux front page: list everything you need to know. There is news, pkgs updates, and links to useful area of the project. | 13:23 |
| fsmithred | libpolkit-gobject* and libpolkit-backend* are missing for ppc64el in beowulf. This prevents installation of xfce4-session (and probably other things) | 14:10 |
| LeePen | They are in dak: http://ix.io/28Z4 | 14:42 |
| fsmithred | can they get into pkgmaster? | 14:47 |
| LeePen | If they are missing that looks like something in amprolla. | 14:49 |
| LeePen | Evilham? | 14:49 |
| fsmithred | also, while I have you here, latest dnscrypt-proxy fix hasn't gone to beowulf yet | 14:50 |
| LeePen | I'm just heading out. Will do that later. | 14:51 |
| fsmithred | thanks | 14:51 |
| Evilham | Hi hi | 14:56 |
| Evilham | fsmithred: can't check that, I am seeing this: http://tcp.st/pewbw | 16:17 |
| Evilham | so it looks at first hand as if things were fine in amprolla | 16:17 |
| fsmithred | I'll update and check again | 16:38 |
| fsmithred | oh, I can only check amd64 | 16:39 |
| fsmithred | Evilham, the only libpolkit packages for ppc64el are libpolkit-agent and libpolkit-agent-dev in pkgmaster: http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/p/policykit-1/ | 16:42 |
| Evilham | the other packages have arch all | 16:43 |
| fsmithred | oh | 16:43 |
| fsmithred | so why wouldn't those show up in the running system? | 16:43 |
| fsmithred | um, no. There are arch-specific packages for libpolkit-gobject and libpolkit-backend | 16:44 |
| fsmithred | and ppc64el is missing | 16:45 |
| Evilham | huh | 16:47 |
| Evilham | maybe we have to rebuild the packages | 16:47 |
| Evilham | IIRC the arch was added in december | 16:47 |
| Evilham | and last build is from nov | 16:47 |
| fsmithred | I take it back. They are there. | 16:47 |
| Evilham | so it's possible that that's why? | 16:47 |
| * Evilham is confused now :-D | 16:47 | |
| fsmithred | I didn't see them on a page search for 8_ppc | 16:47 |
| Evilham | the names are truncated | 16:48 |
| fsmithred | oh, ok | 16:50 |
| Evilham | anyway, if you cehck my paste, you'll see that some packages appear with arch all and some with arch ppc64el | 16:50 |
| fsmithred | yeah, I'm seeing the packages in question with the ppc64el ending | 16:51 |
| Evilham | so, from the dak and amprolla side it looks good | 16:51 |
| Evilham | "good" --> the packages are there, no idea on whether or not they are correct :-D | 16:52 |
| fsmithred | hightower was having trouble installing xfce because of a missing dep | 16:52 |
| fsmithred | <hightower2> Hey can something be done about xfce4 on ppc64le architecture... for quite some time now package xfce4 is not installable due to xfce4-session wanting libpolkit-gobject-1-0, which is not installable | 16:53 |
| fsmithred | I see that package in the repo | 16:54 |
| Evilham | not installable is a different topic | 16:58 |
| Evilham | I checked the logs and sadly I can't make sth out of what they wrote | 16:58 |
| golinux | There is a site map/table of contents link in the footer: https://devuan.org/toc | 17:27 |
| golinux | fsmithred: ^^^ | 17:30 |
| golinux | xrogaan: Yes, the site is a bit of a mess. Am open to an overhaul if you have the skills. Other volunteers welcome too. | 17:32 |
| LeePen | fsmithred: Maybe check the libpolkit-* versions with him? | 17:59 |
| LeePen | At one point the wrong version crept into beowulf from Debian, IIRC. | 18:00 |
| fsmithred | LeePen, if he comes back, I'll try to get more information | 18:00 |
| fsmithred | the packages he needs are there, correct versions | 18:00 |
| LeePen | The policykit-1 packages all have fixed version interpedepdencies, so if he managed to install one of the 0.105-26 versions from Debian when it was briefly in beowulf, apt won't downgrade it without --allow-downgrades. | 18:03 |
| fsmithred | ok, I'll have him check that. Thanks. | 18:03 |
| LeePen | Migrated dnscrypt-proxy 2.0.19+ds1-2+devuan4 to beowulf and chimaera. | 18:07 |
| fsmithred | :) | 18:09 |
| golinux | YEA! chillfan is working furiously on Beowulf documentation for the iso docs and website. | 18:15 |
| cosurgi | Guys, any idea how to disable this warning: | 20:35 |
| cosurgi | (EE) dbus-core: error connecting to system bus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.FileNotFound (Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory) | 20:35 |
| cosurgi | It is spamming my /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 20:36 |
| cosurgi | the file is 40MB already. | 20:36 |
| fsmithred | the file exists? | 20:38 |
| cosurgi | I use the desktop without elogind consolekit dbus policykit. It works for over a month already. I just noticed it's spamming the log. | 20:38 |
| cosurgi | so the file does not exist. And should not ;) | 20:39 |
| fsmithred | oh! Xorg.0.log exists. duh. | 20:39 |
| fsmithred | lemme boot up a nodbus and see what's in my log. | 20:39 |
| fsmithred | yes, I have the same error | 20:42 |
| cosurgi | ok. any idea how to mute it? :) | 20:43 |
| fsmithred | no, not yet | 20:43 |
| cosurgi | actually these 40MB accumulated over the month of usage after I uninstalled elogind consolekit dbus policykit | 20:44 |
| fsmithred | make a cron job... rm -f /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 20:45 |
| cosurgi | or logrotate... | 20:45 |
| fsmithred | oh yeah | 20:45 |
| cosurgi | ok. Just though to ask. I still have 6GB free space on /var partition. This can wait. | 20:45 |
| fsmithred | you don't restart X very much, do you? | 20:46 |
| cosurgi | no | 20:46 |
| cosurgi | I really don't. | 20:46 |
| fsmithred | neither do I | 20:46 |
| cosurgi | I wouldn't restart ever, except when kernel bugs happen. | 20:46 |
| cosurgi | I'm pondering to recompile Xorg just to remove this annoying message. | 20:53 |
| cosurgi | I've just restarted BTW. That's why I discovered that Xorg.log gets spammed. I had to patch kernel with this: https://github.com/skeggsb/nouveau/commit/dd09ebc623e3b3f2ee1ebd9df53bb0754b1dc79b | 20:53 |
| cosurgi | the SIGBUS was causing xserver crashes once every two months... | 20:54 |
| cosurgi | this commit is supposed to fix that. | 20:54 |
| fsmithred | I just did a beowulf install and replaced elogind with consolekit. Now I can't shut down from desktop. | 21:00 |
| cosurgi | hm. I never resterted using GUI. Always used 'shutdown' command | 21:05 |
| cosurgi | But, I used hibernation from GUI, and this worked. | 21:06 |
| cosurgi | but, my GUI is `rox --bottom=Default --pinboard=Default` | 21:06 |
| cosurgi | and window manager is sawfish. | 21:08 |
| cosurgi | They make a decent desktop. | 21:08 |
| cosurgi | Would be nice if there was a desktop config based on these two. I use my 10 year old hand crafted desktop :) | 21:08 |
| LeePen | fsmithred: why didn't it work with elogind? It does for me. Which DM? | 21:34 |
| fsmithred | it did work with elogind | 21:35 |
| fsmithred | but I changed over to consolekit to check if I could install falkon browser | 21:35 |
| fsmithred | and I couldn't | 21:35 |
| LeePen | OK. That's fine (and a relief!) | 21:36 |
| fsmithred | it wants elogind by some indirect route | 21:36 |
| gnu_srs | apt-get -s install falkon; The following packages have unmet dependencies: falkon : Depends: libkf5wallet-bin but it is not going to be installed | 21:43 |
| fsmithred | yup | 21:43 |
| fsmithred | I checked the deps on that and nothing seemed relevant to elogind | 21:44 |
| fsmithred | mostly qt stuff | 21:44 |
| gnu_srs | That's with libpolkit*consolekit* installed running xfce4 | 21:44 |
| fsmithred | yes | 21:45 |
| fsmithred | with elogind it installs | 21:45 |
| fsmithred | the person who wanted to do this was running mate with consolekit and got the same result | 21:45 |
| gnu_srs | apt-get -s install libkf5wallet-bin libkf5iconthemes5 libkf5configwidgets5 libkf5auth5 libpolkit-qt5-1-1; The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 22:50 |
| gnu_srs | libpolkit-qt5-1-1 : Depends: libpam-systemd; that does not work with *consolekit* but libpam-elogind provides libpam-systemd. | 22:50 |
| fsmithred | gnu_srs, thanks | 23:07 |
| tom_work | hey fsmithred, I know your having a lot of trouble with XFCE and the systemd shims like chmanager, consolekit, etc | 23:12 |
| fsmithred | I am? | 23:13 |
| tom_work | basically the redhat systemd session management stuff | 23:13 |
| tom_work | to get functionality like the ability to poweroff or suspend the system from XFCE | 23:13 |
| fsmithred | you have it working in beowulf xfce or mate with consolekit? | 23:14 |
| tom_work | fsmithred, oh, if your not who is maintaining Devuan's XFCE desktop? | 23:14 |
| fsmithred | I think xfce4-session is the only package we have to fork | 23:14 |
| tom_work | fsmithred, well actually I wanted to ask why someone has not just patched XFCE not to use any off that crap but to simply call the power management binaries like Linux used to before systemd | 23:14 |
| fsmithred | is there a bug report for that? | 23:15 |
| tom_work | and use simple POSIX acls to control power | 23:15 |
| tom_work | like adding /bin/poweroff to the poweradm group or something | 23:15 |
| tom_work | I don't know | 23:15 |
| fsmithred | there's a way to use startxfce without session management. The old code for that is still in there. | 23:16 |
| tom_work | but I think I've talked to you or gnarface about it before | 23:16 |
| fsmithred | I went over this with someone a year or two ago. There's a discussion on the forum. | 23:16 |
| tom_work | anyways I wanted to ask if the reason it has not been forked yet was because that was a lot of work | 23:16 |
| tom_work | could you point me to the form? | 23:16 |
| fsmithred | dev1galaxy.org | 23:16 |
| tom_work | I mean the specific post | 23:17 |
| fsmithred | in a few minutes | 23:17 |
| tom_work | take your time | 23:17 |
| tom_work | because if you are planning on forking XFCE 4.12 | 23:17 |
| tom_work | That's something that I can help out with | 23:17 |
| fsmithred | hell no | 23:17 |
| fsmithred | we don't plan to fork anything | 23:17 |
| fsmithred | we do what we have to | 23:17 |
| tom_work | I'm already making preparations to do on Gentoo. been forking individual components, backtracking where in the git repos they went wrong | 23:18 |
| tom_work | the session management stuff is something I have been looking to throw out | 23:18 |
| fsmithred | that would make some people happy | 23:19 |
| tom_work | I'm forking XFCE because they are dropping gtk2, and gtk3 is not suitable replacement | 23:19 |
| fsmithred | I've noticed | 23:20 |
| * Evilham has noticed too | 23:20 | |
| fsmithred | that it's not suitable, I mean | 23:20 |
| fsmithred | tom_work, here's the discussion: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2256 | 23:20 |
| tom_work | thanks | 23:20 |
| tom_work | give me a minute to bring myself up to speed on this | 23:20 |
| fsmithred | I suggested a fix | 23:21 |
| fsmithred | but other devs didn't want to do it | 23:21 |
| fsmithred | might try again | 23:21 |
| tom_work | I'm being cussed at by gnome developers in other bugtrackers because I've been backporting gtk2 support to programs, or maintaining older versions of programs that didn't switch to gtk3 | 23:29 |
| tom_work | I don't want to work with a toxic upstream like that anyways | 23:30 |
| gnu_srs | tom_work: See the questions to tom-mediapc in #devuan (I assume you are the same person): tom-mediapc: Hi, can you please try the proposed solutions in #261. Anyway, can you please explain how to set up one partition to be encrypted, as in: https://paste.debian.net/1128429/ | 23:30 |
| tom_work | yes that's me | 23:31 |
| tom_work | gnu_srs, what do you mean 'setup one partition to be encrypted'? | 23:32 |
| tom_work | I didn't do that by hand if that's what your asking. that was done by selecting guide, fully encrypted in the ascii installer | 23:33 |
| tom_work | although if you need help setting up a luks partition by hand I can probably give you some pointers | 23:33 |
| tom_work | I will try beowulf's eudev later | 23:36 |
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