| LeePen | golinux: if we want bug subscription to work, we will need to setup the mailing list manager to handle it. | 12:13 |
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| LeePen | Is that mailman? | 12:13 |
| Evilham | LeePen: currently yes, and its at dynes and changing it is tricky | 14:58 |
| fsmithred | still no keyboard in the installer. Testing the 2/14 amd64 server right now. Tested on uefi and bios (on different computers) | 15:52 |
| fsmithred | am I the only one who's having this problem? | 15:52 |
| joshbowyer | so i made a devuan wallpaper | 16:08 |
| joshbowyer | the only question i have as far as offering it, is that the base image i used from the internet has no author | 16:09 |
| joshbowyer | and is listed as "free" and "open" on most wallpaper sites | 16:09 |
| joshbowyer | so how would the licensing work? or is it a no-go unless i somehow find the original artist and ask for it to be available under gnu? | 16:09 |
| kilobyte | you need a license, author may be unknown -- as long as there's a reasonable assumption no copyright assertion is missing | 16:13 |
| kilobyte | ie, an anonymous work with a proper license grant is still ok | 16:13 |
| joshbowyer | ah cool, i found its under CC license | 16:22 |
| joshbowyer | wait it gets better, i found the author and hes a huge linux guy, gonna see if i can get a gnu attestation | 16:29 |
| xrogaan | what is the image btw? | 16:34 |
| joshbowyer | the base image or the wallpaper i made? | 16:38 |
| joshbowyer | also found the guy and emailed him asking for permission or GNU licensure, thankfully i speak spanish lol | 16:38 |
| joshbowyer | base image is here: http://bp1.blogger.com/_d3pnkRsxZdQ/SJY-wTKQS5I/AAAAAAAAAdM/NUwaqHTJqmY/s1600-h/tierra1600x1000.jpg | 16:39 |
| joshbowyer | my rendition is here: https://goldenoakit.com/owncloud/index.php/s/NHPl2LdvvXwUDyY | 16:40 |
| xrogaan | you put a purple filter over it? | 16:45 |
| fsmithred | The original color is similar to the color chosen for chimaera's theme. | 16:47 |
| joshbowyer | yeah i just put a filter and the logo, didnt do too much to it | 16:49 |
| joshbowyer | if the artist agrees then we could use it for chimaera too, just leave it the default color (or slightly alter it) and have the logo on it | 16:50 |
| joshbowyer | if the devs want it, anyway | 16:50 |
| joshbowyer | i just figured devuan could use some pleasant space-themed wallpapers with the logo | 16:50 |
| joshbowyer | since its theme is space, after all | 16:50 |
| fsmithred | unlikely that it will be the default | 16:50 |
| joshbowyer | certainly not default | 16:50 |
| joshbowyer | just available in the wallpaper list for backgrounds etc | 16:51 |
| joshbowyer | i come from mint personally, and one thing i liked was how many pleasant wallpapers came pre-installed | 16:51 |
| fsmithred | maybe there should be an online repo of contributed artwork | 16:51 |
| golinux | LeePen: I have very limited access to Dyne's mailman. I suggest we set something up independent of dyne. | 17:15 |
| golinux | It also is not set up for smtp. | 17:16 |
| golinux | fsmithred: There is a section in friendsofdevuan wiki for wallpapers. | 17:17 |
| golinux | Josh could also post it on the forum, maybe even start a thread. | 17:18 |
| golinux | <fsmithred> [09:47:33] The original color is similar to the color chosen for chimaera's theme. | 17:21 |
| golinux | Not even close | 17:21 |
| golinux | https://dev1galaxy.org/files/032430+153944.png | 17:21 |
| fsmithred | I knew you would say that | 17:21 |
| golinux | Those colors are eye-shattering | 17:21 |
| golinux | Great for hanging over a crib to get baby's attention. | 17:22 |
| golinux | joshbowyer: There is a section in friendsofdevuan wiki for wallpapers. You could also post wallpapers on the forum, maybe even start a thread. | 17:23 |
| golinux | https://friendsofdevuan.org/doku.php | 17:24 |
| fsmithred | the chimaera color is duller and greener, but they are similar colors | 17:25 |
| fsmithred | blue-greens | 17:25 |
| joshbowyer | ill go take a look | 17:25 |
| joshbowyer | side note: how do you pronounce chimaera | 17:25 |
| golinux | https://friendsofdevuan.org/doku.php/community:community_artwork | 17:26 |
| joshbowyer | since we americans spell it chimera and pronounce it SHIH-mare-uh | 17:26 |
| golinux | You can't hear me on irc | 17:26 |
| joshbowyer | is it kih-MIE-ruh? | 17:26 |
| golinux | Hard C | 17:26 |
| golinux | Since we already have ceres which is a soft "c" | 17:26 |
| golinux | That minor planet was probably named by a Brit. LOL! | 17:27 |
| joshbowyer | ha | 17:28 |
| golinux | https://minorplanetcenter.net//iau/lists/MPNames.html | 17:28 |
| golinux | This will be the chimaera palette or something very close: https://dev1galaxy.org/files/032430+153944.png | 17:29 |
| joshbowyer | look what i found on the gitlab | 17:29 |
| joshbowyer | Each release has a signature color. | 17:29 |
| joshbowyer | For JESSIE that is purpy and it is #7b7691. | 17:29 |
| joshbowyer | For ASCII that is darkpurpy | 17:29 |
| joshbowyer | In reserve is leafy and it is #b5d147. | 17:29 |
| joshbowyer | i assume "leafy" became beowulf? lol | 17:29 |
| joshbowyer | oh wait leafy will be the theme name for beowulf | 17:30 |
| joshbowyer | except it looks like it became cinnabar | 17:30 |
| golinux | Yeah . . . leafy was going to be for jessie but there were too many objections. | 17:30 |
| joshbowyer | https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-art/tree/master/graphics | 17:31 |
| joshbowyer | there is nothing for chimaera in here, so i cant see the color scheme :/ | 17:31 |
| golinux | https://dev1galaxy.org/files/032430+153944.png | 17:31 |
| joshbowyer | danke | 17:31 |
| golinux | That's as far as it's gotten | 17:31 |
| golinux | Inspired by this magnificent beast https://dev1galaxy.org/files/chimaera2.jpg | 17:32 |
| golinux | theme will be deepsea | 17:32 |
| joshbowyer | ah cool | 17:33 |
| joshbowyer | knowing the theme helps | 17:33 |
| golinux | All the devuan documentation has been moved to here: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-doc/documentation | 17:34 |
| golinux | from here: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-art/tree/master/graphics | 17:35 |
| joshbowyer | ok just for fun i modified the wallpaper to reflect the chimaera color scheme | 17:37 |
| joshbowyer | https://goldenoakit.com/owncloud/index.php/s/XN4lHNshQfqQ4m5 | 17:37 |
| golinux | Sorry . . . not even close. Well, kind of on the continent. Someone may like it. | 17:38 |
| golinux | Maybe you could start a thread for wallpapers in the forum. I don't remember there being one. | 17:39 |
| joshbowyer | yeah its a little hard to darken it without butchering it lol | 17:39 |
| golinux | But then I can be forgetful. There is one for sharing desktops | 17:39 |
| golinux | Tell me about it | 17:40 |
| golinux | I obsess over on increment in the hex. | 17:40 |
| golinux | on > one | 17:40 |
| joshbowyer | but then again, if the base color is #032430 then anything using that as a majorly present color fits the theme i guess | 17:40 |
| golinux | How about one or two increments in the hex. | 17:41 |
| golinux | But do your thing, post it and someone will use it. | 17:42 |
| joshbowyer | try the link again, any closer? | 17:45 |
| xrogaan | <golinux> https://friendsofdevuan.org/doku.php | 17:52 |
| xrogaan | this might need to be added to the main website :P | 17:52 |
| xrogaan | Thing is, compiling a list of useful links might be a great idea too. | 17:52 |
| golinux | I must have removed it because it was getting so stale | 17:53 |
| xrogaan | I don't have time to design a website though. | 17:53 |
| golinux | You really should read the meet notes. New website is under construction | 17:54 |
| joshbowyer | are the meet notes the ones on that cryptpad? | 17:54 |
| golinux | Yes. | 17:54 |
| golinux | They are archived here: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/mindex/devuan-dev@20380101.000000.00000000.en.html | 17:55 |
| golinux | Haven't heard from Evilham in days though so don't know how the backend setup for the new site is going. | 17:56 |
| golinux | I have been reorganizing content. | 17:58 |
| joshbowyer | if anybody's interested i made a variant for ascii, beowulf, and chimaera, along with the krita file, here: https://goldenoakit.com/owncloud/index.php/s/L0FCogRpzdpIp78 | 18:07 |
| golinux | Please post to the forum. | 18:09 |
| joshbowyer | will do | 18:09 |
| golinux | Thanks! | 18:14 |
| rrq | fsmithred: trying to invent a way to test or trace ... | 22:47 |
| fsmithred | rrq, I installed from one usb stick to another. That was easier than finding a free partition on one of the many hard drives laying around. | 22:48 |
| rrq | afaik uefi boot uses grub and has "all" grub modules | 22:54 |
| fsmithred | yeah, it looks like they are there. | 22:55 |
| fsmithred | keyboard.mod is definitely there. I tried loading it from grub prompt but failed. | 22:56 |
| fsmithred | it says it can't find keyboard.mod, and it gives the full path to the file in the message. | 22:56 |
| fsmithred | also, I got the same problem on non-uefi computer | 22:57 |
| fsmithred | also tried two different usb sticks | 22:57 |
| rrq | mmm. it's the "standard" set up: with the efi boot loader in that FAT partition, and then relies on (also) mounting the disk as CD for the root file system. I.e. the first partition starts at dector 0. | 23:02 |
| rrq | what was that path it complained on? | 23:11 |
| fsmithred | x86_64-efi/something | 23:31 |
| fsmithred | x86_64-efi/keyboard.mod | 23:32 |
| fsmithred | might have been /boot/grub/x86_blah | 23:32 |
| fsmithred | oh | 23:33 |
| fsmithred | I think $prefix was /boot or /boot grub which might do exactly that | 23:33 |
| fsmithred | sorry, /boot/grub/ | 23:34 |
| rrq | yes it sets "prefix=($root)/boot/grub" | 23:35 |
| fsmithred | I'm putting the server iso on a stick again. | 23:36 |
| fsmithred | will get to grub prompt and see what I can find. | 23:36 |
| rrq | the "last" grub command in the boot loader is "(memdisk)/boot/grub" | 23:38 |
| fsmithred | cue twilight zone music | 23:40 |
| fsmithred | echo $prefix | 23:40 |
| fsmithred | (hd0)/boot/grub | 23:41 |
| rrq | or "last line of the grub config that is packed into the boot loader" | 23:41 |
| fsmithred | insmod keyboard | 23:41 |
| rrq | yes maybe it should be "($root)/boot/grub" rather | 23:41 |
| fsmithred | /boot/grub/x86_64-efi/keyboard.mod not found | 23:42 |
| fsmithred | set prefix=(hd0) | 23:42 |
| fsmithred | insmod keyboard | 23:42 |
| rrq | I can do all those :) random scripting ftw | 23:42 |
| fsmithred | /x86_64-efi/keyboard.mod not found | 23:42 |
| fsmithred | wtf? | 23:42 |
| fsmithred | why does it insist on looking in the wrong place? | 23:43 |
| rrq | needs "prefix=(hd0)/boot/grub" | 23:43 |
| fsmithred | that's what it was to start | 23:43 |
| fsmithred | I fail to see the logic in the output I got | 23:44 |
| rrq | seems "prefix" is supposed to tell a root filesystem path for grubbiness | 23:46 |
| rrq | the iso has a very first command "search --file --set=root /.disk/info" which defines what $root is | 23:47 |
| rrq | aka the "device" holding the root file system | 23:47 |
| rrq | will be partition 1 = the cdrom = starting swector 0 | 23:48 |
| rrq | -w | 23:48 |
| fsmithred | oops. keyboard.mod is not on this one | 23:48 |
| fsmithred | there's keylayouts.mod and keystatus.mod | 23:49 |
| rrq | mmm biab | 23:50 |
| fsmithred | ok | 23:50 |
| fsmithred | usb_keyboard.mod is there, insmod usb_keyboard works (no error), boot from grub prompt works, but still no keyboard in the installer. | 23:59 |
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