| arnautdaniel | Just a random question, but could anyone shed some light on any documentation groups in the project. I'm interested in learning to help out with that. | 01:35 |
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| golinux | arnautdaniel: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-doc/documentation/tree/master and https://friendsofdevuan.org/doku.php | 01:42 |
| arnautdaniel | This might be a dumb question, but is most of the work done in markdown? | 01:44 |
| xrogaan | beowulf, upower is listed as obsolete https://paste.debian.net/1131045/ | 04:40 |
| xrogaan | apparently, I have a ton of obsolete stuff | 04:48 |
| LeePen | xrogaan: Debian upower dropped its systemd dependency, so we have reverted to using their packaging directly. | 13:12 |
| LeePen | However, because of the Devuan version number has an epoch, you will have to do something like | 13:13 |
| LeePen | apt install --allow-downgrades upower/beowulf | 13:14 |
| LeePen | It is included in the beowulf Release Notes that chillfan and golinx are preparing. | 13:15 |
| fsmithred | LeePen, when you have a minute would you please move refractainstall-gui_9.5.5 from unstable to beowulf? There's a bug fix in it. | 16:44 |
| LeePen | fsmithred: refractainstaller-gui | 9.5.5 | beowulf | source, all | 17:07 |
| LeePen | And also chimaera. | 17:07 |
| fsmithred | yeah, thanks | 17:13 |
| joshbowyer | ugh the screensaver problem is back again and i didnt change one single thing. | 18:19 |
| LeePen | joshbowyer: consolekit or logind? | 18:19 |
| joshbowyer | logind | 18:20 |
| joshbowyer | it worked perfectly since yesterday | 18:20 |
| LeePen | check the session is correct: loginctl | 18:20 |
| joshbowyer | it is | 18:20 |
| joshbowyer | but even just starting cinnamon-screensaver from the shell, it gives the accountsservice error | 18:21 |
| joshbowyer | before even trying anything | 18:21 |
| joshbowyer | running as an unelevated user, says user (null) has uid: 0 which is the original problem but stopped for a while and now its back | 18:21 |
| LeePen | So is accounts-daemon running? | 18:24 |
| joshbowyer | no | 18:26 |
| joshbowyer | at least nothing from `ps aux | grep -i accounts` | 18:26 |
| joshbowyer | i dont see anything under rc2.d either, how should it be invoked? | 18:27 |
| LeePen | OK. What does 'busctl | grep accounts' show? | 18:28 |
| LeePen | I think it is DBus activated (sigh!) | 18:28 |
| joshbowyer | busctl and dbusctl (in case of typo) not found | 18:29 |
| joshbowyer | dont have the command | 18:29 |
| joshbowyer | not present using mlocate | 18:29 |
| LeePen | Then you don't have elogind installed? | 18:30 |
| joshbowyer | i do though | 18:30 |
| LeePen | busctl is part of elogind. | 18:30 |
| joshbowyer | and it even tries to connect to elogind on launch and succeeds | 18:30 |
| joshbowyer | it aint there lol | 18:30 |
| joshbowyer | i forget, apt doesnt have an equivalent of "yum provides" does it | 18:30 |
| LeePen | Never used yum, so I don't know. | 18:31 |
| LeePen | dpkg -S $(which busctl) | 18:31 |
| LeePen | elogind: /usr/bin/busctl | 18:32 |
| joshbowyer | doesnt exist | 18:32 |
| joshbowyer | ok but heres the weird thing | 18:32 |
| joshbowyer | if i apt search elogind | 18:32 |
| joshbowyer | it doesnt say elogind installed but does say upgradable from 234.4-2 to 241.4-2 | 18:33 |
| joshbowyer | but if i try to install elogind | 18:33 |
| joshbowyer | it says it will remove libsystemd0 | 18:33 |
| joshbowyer | isnt that the devuan shim? | 18:33 |
| LeePen | No, that is what it is supposed to do. | 18:33 |
| LeePen | It will replace libsystemd0 with libelogind0 | 18:34 |
| joshbowyer | oh | 18:34 |
| joshbowyer | ok well | 18:34 |
| joshbowyer | is that a normal part of the upgrade from ascii then? | 18:34 |
| LeePen | What does 'dpkg -l elogind' say? | 18:35 |
| joshbowyer | because i upgraded from ascii to beowulf and i still have libsystemd0... | 18:35 |
| LeePen | Then you can't have elogind installed then. | 18:35 |
| joshbowyer | it says ii elogind 234.4-2 amd64 | 18:35 |
| LeePen | OK. That is the ancient ascii version. | 18:35 |
| joshbowyer | it is installed though, thats the weird thing... | 18:36 |
| joshbowyer | ok | 18:36 |
| joshbowyer | so it didnt get installed/upgraded upon a dist-upgrade | 18:36 |
| LeePen | You need beowulf's: 241.4-2 | 18:36 |
| joshbowyer | just installed it, rebooting to be sure | 18:37 |
| joshbowyer | maybe that should be an upgrade note for ascii -> beowulf? | 18:37 |
| LeePen | Maybe, although last time I tried it upgraded smoothly. How did you upgrade? | 18:38 |
| joshbowyer | sed -i 's/ascii/beowulf/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && apt dist-upgrade | 18:39 |
| joshbowyer | lol | 18:39 |
| joshbowyer | ok after installing/upgrading elogind, same issue, same warning... | 18:39 |
| joshbowyer | and busctl | grep accounts has no output | 18:40 |
| LeePen | dpkg -l accountsservice | 18:41 |
| joshbowyer | ii accountsservice 0.6.45-2 | 18:41 |
| joshbowyer | apt list --upgradable shows nothing btw | 18:43 |
| LeePen | Have you got cinnamon-core or cinnamon? | 18:47 |
| joshbowyer | both | 18:48 |
| LeePen | And gir1.2-accountsservice-1.0 | 18:49 |
| joshbowyer | yup | 18:51 |
| joshbowyer | wonder if i need dpkg to reconfigure something? | 18:52 |
| LeePen | OK, let's see if you manually start the accounts-service daemon it fixes the screensaver. | 18:52 |
| LeePen | sudo /usr/lib/accountsservice/accounts-daemon | 18:53 |
| LeePen | Then busctl | grep accounts should show it. | 18:54 |
| joshbowyer | yeah, shows two entries for root | 18:55 |
| LeePen | Does the screensaver work now. | 18:55 |
| LeePen | ? | 18:55 |
| joshbowyer | ok cool warning is gone | 18:55 |
| joshbowyer | yes | 18:55 |
| joshbowyer | it works now | 18:55 |
| joshbowyer | so accountsservice isnt running on boot then | 18:55 |
| LeePen | So the issue is that accountsservice is not being activated. | 18:56 |
| joshbowyer | right | 18:56 |
| LeePen | You were using something on top of lightdm IIRC? | 18:56 |
| joshbowyer | slick-greeter | 19:03 |
| gnu_srs1 | joshbowyer: sed -i 's/ascii/beowulf/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && apt dist-upgrade: Did you forget apt-get update? | 19:03 |
| joshbowyer | LeePen: figured it out | 19:29 |
| joshbowyer | in /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.freedesktop.Accounts.service, the Exec line is commented out... | 19:30 |
| joshbowyer | this is not a change i made. | 19:30 |
| LeePen | Glad you sorted it. | 19:32 |
| LeePen | It isn't commented in the file shipped in 0.6.45-2 | 19:33 |
| joshbowyer | hmm | 19:33 |
| joshbowyer | wonder if it was in the ascii version? | 19:33 |
| LeePen | Just checked, seems OK in 0.6.43-1 too. | 19:38 |
| joshbowyer | or maybe i just need to set my bash history to infinite lol... | 19:42 |
| LeePen | :) | 19:44 |
| fsmithred | debsums can tell you all the files that have been changed | 19:58 |
| golinux | Pad for this week's meet is here: https://pad.dyne.org/code/#/2/code/edit/d3t8z3AfRowRlBhvO33zzFM9/ | 20:55 |
| yeti | \o/ | 20:55 |
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