LeePen | gnu_srs1: Hi. | 11:56 |
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LeePen | Would you like eudev 3.2.9-7 to go into beowulf-proposed-updates? It will need rebuilding. | 11:57 |
fsmithred | update: the problem with missing modules when booting live-iso from optical media also exists with isohybrid-imaged usb. | 12:08 |
fsmithred | in other words, nobody is going to have sound when the boot the desktop-live | 12:08 |
LeePen | fsmithred: do you have a fix or workaround? | 12:32 |
fsmithred | no | 12:32 |
fsmithred | well, boot to ram fixes it | 12:32 |
fsmithred | if you have enough | 12:32 |
LeePen | Hmmm. Not sure I have any suggestions. Do you why the modules are not loaded? | 12:37 |
fsmithred | no | 12:38 |
fsmithred | close to half are missing | 12:38 |
LeePen | Present on the media but not loaded? | 12:39 |
fsmithred | half compared to booting to ram | 12:39 |
fsmithred | around 140 vs around 70-90 | 12:39 |
fsmithred | tested on refracta, pure devuan and exegnu | 12:40 |
LeePen | Has depmod run correctly and stored its magic? | 12:42 |
fsmithred | when does that happen? | 12:44 |
fsmithred | isn't that kernel compile stuff? | 12:44 |
LeePen | I think it is when the kernel is installed. | 12:45 |
fsmithred | I guess it's right. All works if boot to ram or if booting on a multi-boot usb (which does not pretend to be a CD) | 12:46 |
LeePen | I just wonder if it is missing on the ro media. But the kernel recreates it when boot to ram and it has a writable /lib | 12:48 |
fsmithred | I don't think it's writable | 12:48 |
fsmithred | filesystem.squashfs gets copied to ram, and then the system uses that instead of the dvd when you run stuff | 12:49 |
LeePen | Does /lib/modules/<kernel-version>/modules.dep exist on the iso? | 12:52 |
fsmithred | yeah, I just looked at it | 12:52 |
fsmithred | snd modules are in it | 12:52 |
fsmithred | also in modules.order | 12:52 |
LeePen | OK. Looks unlikely it is that. | 12:53 |
fsmithred | I need to go shopping for food. Probably be a couple hours by the time I'm back here. | 12:58 |
LeePen | Which is the smallest of your isos to download? | 12:58 |
fsmithred | refracta beta5 is 818MB | 12:58 |
fsmithred | and has ssh running | 12:59 |
fsmithred | but mouse/keybaord is fixed so you don't really need that | 12:59 |
LeePen | desktop-live is smaller? | 12:59 |
fsmithred | 1.2G | 12:59 |
fsmithred | https://get.refracta.org/files/testing/refracta10-beta5_xfce_amd64-20200518_0033.iso | 13:00 |
fsmithred | or... | 13:00 |
fsmithred | https://files.devuan.org/devuan_beowulf/desktop-live/devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_RC_amd64_desktop-live.iso | 13:00 |
ShorTie | sortta does sound like depmod needs run again to me | 13:01 |
LeePen | OK. Thanks. I'll have a look in a bit. No promises! | 13:01 |
fsmithred | thanks | 13:01 |
fsmithred | passwords for refracta: root/root, user/user | 13:01 |
fsmithred | bbl | 13:01 |
LeePen | fsmithred: I am trying refracta in qemu. | 14:30 |
LeePen | Initial results suggest that pci soundcards are found correctly, modules loaded, /proc/asound/cards have correct info. | 14:30 |
LeePen | However, not sb16 (which is ISA iirc). | 14:32 |
fsmithred | LeePen, try it on usb or dvd | 14:39 |
LeePen | Have to hunt for media.... | 14:40 |
fsmithred | it's not the same every time | 14:41 |
fsmithred | or maybe every place | 14:41 |
fsmithred | booted in qemu on this computer I get 77 modules loaded, including snd... | 14:42 |
fsmithred | on other computer, same boot options, 57 modules, no snd | 14:42 |
fsmithred | need more coffee brb | 14:42 |
fsmithred | oh, on other computer, if I reboot it in qemu, I get 77 and sound works. So every boot is potentially different. | 14:54 |
bgstack15 | what's the default filesystem for /run in Devuan? Is that pretty much always a tmpfs? | 15:40 |
bgstack15 | If looking at a specific release, Ceres. | 15:40 |
fsmithred | bgstack15, I see /run is tmpfs in beowulf, ascii and jessie | 16:01 |
mason | LeePen: depmod (or the lack of it) bites me whenever I install my ZFS modules for a new kernel. | 16:01 |
mason | fsmithred: It's very cargo-cult of me, but I'd manually run depmod across all installed kernels. | 16:01 |
mason | fsmithred: https://bpa.st/7RWA | 16:03 |
fsmithred | uh, that runs update-initramfs for each module? | 16:06 |
mason | fsmithred: No, once for each kernel. | 16:08 |
mason | fsmithred: if you look at /lib/modules/foo, foo is a kernel directory | 16:09 |
LeePen | fsmithred: I am just looking in the refracta initrd. There is an Intel sound card already in class/sound/card0. | 18:01 |
LeePen | Where is that from? Is that preventing finding the real system card? | 18:02 |
fsmithred | no idea | 18:02 |
fsmithred | oh | 18:02 |
fsmithred | where is that? | 18:02 |
LeePen | Mounted the refreacta iso loopback. | 18:03 |
LeePen | Then mounted /live/initrd.img loopback | 18:04 |
fsmithred | I would think that has to come from boot. /sys is excluded in the rsync copy | 18:06 |
fsmithred | hm | 18:06 |
fsmithred | not sure where update-initramfs runs | 18:06 |
LeePen | It may be nothing. I am not sure I understand well enough how the guts of the initrd works. | 18:07 |
fsmithred | rsync excludes /sys, /proc and /dev, but the kernel and initrd just get copied to the iso dir. | 18:13 |
fsmithred | and the only time update-initramfs runs is if you want to include cryptsetup, and it runs it on the host system before copying the initrd to iso dir | 18:13 |
fsmithred | there's no /sys in initrd.img | 18:17 |
fsmithred | or card0 | 18:17 |
fsmithred | I'm looking in the extracted initrd from the mounted iso file | 18:18 |
fsmithred | not running | 18:18 |
LeePen | OK. Maybe by mounting it, it is picking up mine from the live system. | 18:18 |
LeePen | Sorry for the noise. | 18:18 |
fsmithred | that's ok | 18:18 |
fsmithred | we're all groping in the dark | 18:19 |
gnu_srs | LeePen: Sure about eudev. Does it have to be rebuilt as 3.2.9-7 for beowulf-proposed-updates? Is that a branch? | 18:20 |
LeePen | gnu_srs: Create the branch. | 18:23 |
LeePen | It will need a new tag and changelog entry with version. | 18:23 |
LeePen | 3.2.9-7~beowulf1? | 18:23 |
LeePen | We need to be sure that the version number will be upgradable to chimaera is 3.2.9-7 remains in chimaera. | 18:24 |
LeePen | s/is/if/ | 18:24 |
LeePen | bbiab | 18:28 |
fsmithred | More results on desktop-live. https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21957#p21957 | 21:09 |
* fsmithred wishes for bugs that didn't change every time you boot | 21:09 | |
mason | fsmithred: "It's a live one!" | 21:10 |
fsmithred | more like undead | 21:11 |
ShorTie | does this look right ?? | 22:50 |
ShorTie | https://git.devuan.org/ShorTie/linux-p4-64 | 22:50 |
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