libera/#devuan-dev/ Wednesday, 2020-05-20

LeePengnu_srs1: Hi.11:56
LeePenWould you like eudev 3.2.9-7 to go into beowulf-proposed-updates? It will need rebuilding.11:57
fsmithredupdate: the problem with missing modules when booting live-iso from optical media also exists with isohybrid-imaged usb.12:08
fsmithredin other words, nobody is going to have sound when the boot the desktop-live12:08
LeePenfsmithred: do you have a fix or workaround?12:32
fsmithredno12:32
fsmithredwell, boot to ram fixes it12:32
fsmithredif you have enough12:32
LeePenHmmm. Not sure I have any suggestions. Do you why the modules are not loaded?12:37
fsmithredno12:38
fsmithredclose to half are missing12:38
LeePenPresent on the media but not loaded?12:39
fsmithredhalf compared to booting to ram12:39
fsmithredaround 140 vs around 70-9012:39
fsmithredtested on refracta, pure devuan and exegnu12:40
LeePenHas depmod run correctly and stored its magic?12:42
fsmithredwhen does that happen?12:44
fsmithredisn't that kernel compile stuff?12:44
LeePenI think it is when the kernel is installed.12:45
fsmithredI guess it's right. All works if boot to ram or if booting on a multi-boot usb (which does not pretend to be a CD)12:46
LeePenI just wonder if it is missing on the ro media. But the kernel recreates it when boot to ram and it has a writable /lib12:48
fsmithredI don't think it's writable12:48
fsmithredfilesystem.squashfs gets copied to ram, and then the system uses that instead of the dvd when you run stuff12:49
LeePenDoes /lib/modules/<kernel-version>/modules.dep exist on the iso?12:52
fsmithredyeah, I just looked at it12:52
fsmithredsnd modules are in it12:52
fsmithredalso in modules.order12:52
LeePenOK. Looks unlikely it is that.12:53
fsmithredI need to go shopping for food. Probably be a couple hours by the time I'm back here.12:58
LeePenWhich is the smallest of your isos to download?12:58
fsmithredrefracta beta5 is 818MB12:58
fsmithredand has ssh running12:59
fsmithredbut mouse/keybaord is fixed so you don't really need that12:59
LeePendesktop-live is smaller?12:59
fsmithred1.2G12:59
fsmithredhttps://get.refracta.org/files/testing/refracta10-beta5_xfce_amd64-20200518_0033.iso13:00
fsmithredor...13:00
fsmithredhttps://files.devuan.org/devuan_beowulf/desktop-live/devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_RC_amd64_desktop-live.iso13:00
ShorTiesortta does sound like depmod needs run again to me13:01
LeePenOK. Thanks. I'll have a look in a bit. No promises!13:01
fsmithredthanks13:01
fsmithredpasswords for refracta: root/root, user/user13:01
fsmithredbbl13:01
LeePenfsmithred: I am trying refracta in qemu.14:30
LeePenInitial results suggest that pci soundcards are found correctly, modules loaded, /proc/asound/cards have correct info.14:30
LeePenHowever, not sb16 (which is ISA iirc).14:32
fsmithredLeePen, try it on usb or dvd14:39
LeePenHave to hunt for media....14:40
fsmithredit's not the same every time14:41
fsmithredor maybe every place14:41
fsmithredbooted in qemu on this computer I get 77 modules loaded, including snd...14:42
fsmithredon other computer, same boot options, 57 modules, no snd14:42
fsmithredneed more coffee brb14:42
fsmithredoh, on other computer, if I reboot it in qemu, I get 77 and sound works. So every boot is potentially different.14:54
bgstack15what's the default filesystem for /run in Devuan? Is that pretty much always a tmpfs?15:40
bgstack15If looking at a specific release, Ceres.15:40
fsmithredbgstack15, I see /run is tmpfs in beowulf, ascii and jessie16:01
masonLeePen: depmod (or the lack of it) bites me whenever I install my ZFS modules for a new kernel.16:01
masonfsmithred: It's very cargo-cult of me, but I'd manually run depmod across all installed kernels.16:01
masonfsmithred: https://bpa.st/7RWA16:03
fsmithreduh, that runs update-initramfs for each module?16:06
masonfsmithred: No, once for each kernel.16:08
masonfsmithred: if you look at /lib/modules/foo, foo is a kernel directory16:09
LeePenfsmithred: I am just looking in the refracta initrd. There is an Intel sound card already in class/sound/card0.18:01
LeePenWhere is that from? Is that preventing finding the real system card?18:02
fsmithredno idea18:02
fsmithredoh18:02
fsmithredwhere is that?18:02
LeePenMounted the refreacta iso loopback.18:03
LeePenThen mounted /live/initrd.img loopback18:04
fsmithredI would think that has to come from boot. /sys is excluded in the rsync copy18:06
fsmithredhm18:06
fsmithrednot sure where update-initramfs runs18:06
LeePenIt may be nothing. I am not sure I understand well enough how the guts of the initrd works.18:07
fsmithredrsync excludes /sys, /proc and /dev, but the kernel and initrd just get copied to the iso dir.18:13
fsmithredand the only time update-initramfs runs is if you want to include cryptsetup, and it runs it on the host system before copying the initrd to iso dir18:13
fsmithredthere's no /sys in initrd.img18:17
fsmithredor card018:17
fsmithredI'm looking in the extracted initrd from the mounted iso file18:18
fsmithrednot running18:18
LeePenOK. Maybe by mounting it, it is picking up mine from the live system.18:18
LeePenSorry for the noise.18:18
fsmithredthat's ok18:18
fsmithredwe're all groping in the dark18:19
gnu_srsLeePen: Sure about eudev. Does it have to be rebuilt as 3.2.9-7 for beowulf-proposed-updates? Is that a branch?18:20
LeePengnu_srs: Create the branch.18:23
LeePenIt will need a new tag and  changelog entry with version.18:23
LeePen3.2.9-7~beowulf1?18:23
LeePenWe need to be sure that the version number will be upgradable to chimaera is 3.2.9-7 remains in chimaera.18:24
LeePens/is/if/18:24
LeePenbbiab18:28
fsmithredMore results on desktop-live. https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21957#p2195721:09
* fsmithred wishes for bugs that didn't change every time you boot21:09
masonfsmithred: "It's a live one!"21:10
fsmithredmore like undead21:11
ShorTiedoes this look right ??22:50
ShorTiehttps://git.devuan.org/ShorTie/linux-p4-6422:50

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