LeePen | fsmithred: Hi | 14:04 |
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fsmithred | hi | 14:06 |
LeePen | Sorry to hear you are at a loose end! | 14:08 |
LeePen | I am wondering if we should try ID=devuan in /etc/os-release for the beowulf point release. | 14:08 |
LeePen | Do you fancy finding whta it would break and if we can work around it in any other way? | 14:09 |
fsmithred | oh... let's test that in ceres or chimaera first | 14:09 |
bgstack15 | Devuan Meet pad for tomorrow: https://pad.dyne.org/code/#/2/code/edit/CM4V8OPWNBGZRpcVmBYt5TUv/ | 14:09 |
LeePen | It has been in ceres and chimaera for a while. | 14:09 |
fsmithred | probably breaks secure boot and some third-party software that expects debian | 14:10 |
fsmithred | who's got a secureboot setup to test? | 14:10 |
bgstack15 | I run Ceres on all my hardware, but I don't use secureboot. For some of the same reasons I use Devuan, I've never cared for SecureBoot... | 14:10 |
LeePen | Since end of March according to changelog. | 14:10 |
LeePen | Not me. | 14:11 |
LeePen | Having ID=debian and VERSION=3 (as it is) breaks postgresql-common. | 14:12 |
fsmithred | fuck. Put it as devuan. We've been here five years, and they can all start to recognize us. | 14:13 |
LeePen | That is my feeling too. | 14:13 |
fsmithred | I can easily make the live isos with the unsigned grub | 14:13 |
LeePen | I can build it for beowulf-proposed-updates and then it is easier to test? | 14:14 |
fsmithred | not sure what the installer isos do to decide which one to use | 14:14 |
fsmithred | I can't really test it | 14:14 |
fsmithred | no secure boot and I don't know much about third-party stuff that gets used in enterprise | 14:15 |
LeePen | When we build new isos to test the point release, we can/will have to pull those packages in. | 14:15 |
LeePen | No, nor me. | 14:15 |
fsmithred | we should recruit a few suitable volunteers when the time comes for that | 14:16 |
LeePen | I know jaromil pushed for this last summer when it was changed, but it feels the Wrong Thing™ to do to me. | 14:16 |
fsmithred | yeah | 14:16 |
fsmithred | we could make a package that people could install to change it | 14:16 |
fsmithred | or... | 14:16 |
fsmithred | tell people to edit that one line | 14:16 |
fsmithred | if they need it | 14:17 |
LeePen | Yes, once it is in beowulf-proposed-updates, folk can always install the update. | 14:17 |
LeePen | Will do it now. It doesn't commit us to actually making the change, just makes testing what it breaks easier. | 14:17 |
fsmithred | we control base-files | 14:17 |
fsmithred | maybe we could make it so it acts differently depending on secure boot or not? | 14:17 |
fsmithred | store that thought for later | 14:18 |
LeePen | base-files 10.3+devuan3.5 in beowulf-proposed-updates for testing. | 15:10 |
onefang | https://www.theregister.com/2020/06/03/devuan_beowulf_30/ | 15:33 |
mason | onefang: Why would they quote GKH for anything? | 15:38 |
* onefang shrugs. | 15:39 | |
mason | So, here's something I want to track. Ubuntu 20.04 has finally adopted configuration options for grub-efi-amd64 that match grub-pc for flexibility - specifically, you can specify multiple ESPs the same way you can specify multiple disks with MBRs for grub-pc. Do we know if they got this from Debian or if it's their own innovation? | 15:40 |
mason | I haven't had a chance to look yet. | 15:40 |
mason | https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SoftwareRaidRoot was updated this year, but I'm not sure I wholly believe it. Guess it's time to set up a test environment. | 15:46 |
mason | Hrm. So, in Debian testing, dpkg-reconfigure grub-efi-amd64 doesn't do this. I'll move to Sid and if it's not there, I'll look at the Ubuntu repositories to see what they did. I think this is something we want. | 16:45 |
mason | Hrm, 30 packages different from an updates testing to Sid right now, so it must be Ubuntu-only so far. | 16:47 |
mason | s/updates/updated/g | 16:47 |
HumanG33k | hello i try to use gitlab (with apache2) from debian on devuan i will try to desystemd it in order to limit error. feel free to come on #debian-gitlab and/or make tests | 17:10 |
plasma41 | I have a UEFI box in my collection of hardware. I can run some secure boot tests on that. | 19:20 |
golinux | Has anyone received the Beowulf announcement that jaromil was supposed to send today? | 22:00 |
golinux | Nothing on Devuan's twitter either. | 22:13 |
LeePen | golinux: No. And there is nothing in devuan-announce archive. | 22:55 |
golinux | or on twitter | 22:56 |
golinux | I'm guessing hos connection is still down. | 22:56 |
golinux | his | 22:56 |
LeePen | Shall we wait for him or shall I send the one I did yesterday? | 22:56 |
golinux | You have access to announce? I don't. | 22:57 |
LeePen | 'To post a message to all the list members, send email to devuan-announce@lists.dyne.org.' | 22:58 |
golinux | Interesting that there is only one announcement in there for 2.1 https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/list/devuan-announce.en.html | 22:59 |
golinux | Sure give it a try! | 22:59 |
golinux | But I suspect that it will go into a black hole. | 22:59 |
LeePen | Hmmm | 23:13 |
LeePen | Sent. | 23:33 |
golinux | Nothing posted here https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/list/devuan-announce.en.html Yes, I refreshed! | 23:46 |
LeePen | In moderation. | 23:56 |
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