libera/#devuan-dev/ Tuesday, 2020-06-23

onefangjaw: Has there been any progress on your mirror?  You asked us to "hold off for now".  So I've been holding off waiting for you to get back to us.04:36
onefangGot the DVD burner.  The printed manual says to carefully and completely read the manual on the included disc BEFORE installing it.  lol10:01
onefangThe manual is in Korean, US English, and Australian English.  B-)10:18
onefangAlas my DVD-RW has bit rotted, but I have a big stack of DVD-Rs I can sacrifice.  I'll pop out to Officeworks tomorrow and gram some new DVD-RWs.11:55
onefangrrq, can I borrow your cat?11:55
ShorTiei got a couple dozen, you can borrow 1 from me12:13
onefangAre any of them good at hunting DVDs, like rrqs cat?12:14
ShorTienop12:14
ShorTiejust mice, rabbits, snakes and birds12:15
onefangMy new DVD burner is really small, not much bigger than a DVD case.  I don't think I could squeeze a small snake into it.12:15
ShorTieactually, i thought dvd's where like dead12:17
ShorTieflash drives are the thingy now12:17
onefangWe provide ISO images.  I have no idea how many people actually burn them to a disk vs how many just dd them to USB.12:18
onefangSo I'm trying to convince my Syslinux setup to be able to handle both.12:20
ShorTieya, old habbits are hard to break sometimes12:21
onefangCertainly my DVD burner was so old and unused I had not noticed it was dead until recently when I needed to test this.  Now I have a new one.12:22
onefangEven my Blu-ray player isn't doing anything other than gathering dust.12:22
ShorTiefor my x86_64 installs, i've changed up to vfat for boot12:25
ShorTiegrub don't care12:25
ShorTieor the system12:25
ShorTiebut makes like easier for me, lol.12:26
ShorTieand it's like a gig, so copy-n-go works, hehe.12:27
fsmithredI got yelled at by users for suggesting that they put the iso images on a usb stick.12:52
onefangSo we must protect fsmithred's ear drums.12:55
fsmithredand support those two people who still have blank optical media.12:55
fsmithredwell, three. I still have a few disks left.12:56
fsmithredbut I don't normally use them12:56
onefangFour, I still have a stack that I'm likely to turn into coasters during testing tonight.12:56
onefangI'm gonna burn through a stack of disks.  B-)12:57
onefangI didn't pay for them anyway.  A client long ago gave me a huge box of them, that I didn't need back then either.12:57
* onefang adds CD writing pen to my shopping list. Old one dried out over the years of non use. lol13:13
ShorTieanother advantage to a usb drive, single drive install can be done13:32
ShorTiei'd promote that feature, just to dump iso's .. :/~13:36
fsmithredwhat do you mean by single drive install?13:43
ShorTieyou put your install files on sumfin and boot13:46
ShorTiethe system then copies all the needed stuff to ram13:47
ShorTiereformat drive13:47
fsmithredso you don't need any removable media13:47
ShorTieand install13:47
ShorTienop13:47
fsmithredI don't think I've ever done one of those. I guess I should try it.13:49
ShorTieit's nice imho13:50
ShorTiewhen you only have 1 sdcard to play with, gotta be creative, lol.13:51
ShorTieyou can also have install look for and copy/place any personal files13:55
ShorTielike a wpa_supplicant13:56
ShorTieso on first boot wifi just works13:56
ShorTiewhat cha do, is like after selecting install drive14:02
ShorTieif install drive == drive booted, then copy all to ram14:03
amesserLeePen: For packaging: which will be the final url of the git after anything has been done: gitea.devuan.dev or git.devuan.org? So, should we update the fields in debian/control?20:50
fsmithredamesser, I think they both work. I know that devuan-packages gets changed to just devuan21:16
fsmithred"think..."   I can log into either and it takes me to the same place.21:17
amesserfine, so I wont change anything for now21:18
fsmithredI just changed my control file from devuan-packages to devuan. Thanks for the reminder about that one.21:19
fsmithredyesterday I added gitea as a remote origin21:20
amesserah i see, the group name has changed21:21
fsmithredand you may need to get added to some groups on the server21:22
fsmithredI don't know the details on that21:22
amesserI think LeePen already added me, at least I got an E-Mail like that21:26
fsmithredyou'll find out when you try to push21:27
amesserhaha :-)21:27
fsmithredoh, you'll need to upload a pub key21:28
amesseryep, i already did21:28
LeePenamesser: gitea is on git.d.o now.21:45
amesserok21:46
LeePenYou do need to update d/control though: devuan-packages is just devuan.21:46
LeePenI have already done dbus, elogind, util-linux if you want to compare.21:47
LeePenI added you as collab, so you should be able to push.21:48
amesserstarting the ci build is same as before?21:48
LeePenBasically.21:49
amesseri'll have a look at the your projects then21:49
LeePenFrom a user perspective.21:49
LeePenThere is documentation in devuan/documentation/maintainers.21:50
amesserthx21:50
amesserUnfortunately, I'm still very busy with several personal projects.21:52
amesserBut I'll try spent time for devuan more often.21:52
amesserDuring covid-19 shutdown I manged to setup a matrix im + jitsi server at our company21:53
amesserThe people here love it so much, that they started to drop webex, skype and slack for it21:53
amesserTomorrow, i'll go one with the final step to setup phone dial-in for jitsi21:54

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