libera/#devuan-dev/ Friday, 2020-07-03

golinuxThat was the first devuan meet that I couldn't connect to and the first one that I missed.  It sucked . . .01:03
Unit193Urgh, network-manager (1.25.91-1) * Remove SysV init script.  But I guess what do you expect from biebl? :/06:42
masonUnit193: Not seeing anything for startup scaffolding upstream, sysvinit or systemd... Maybe I'm missing it, but even the version shipped in Stretch: https://cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/tree/?h=nm-1-214:49
masonSo yeah, looks like it might be unique to Debian. I thought there was a "don't zap sysvinit support maliciously" language in the most recent referendum.14:50
Unit193https://packages.qa.debian.org/n/network-manager/news/20200702T001907Z.html14:50
masonUnit193: Right, but I'm saying, even older versions, unless I'm just missing it, init scripts were something added by Debian, not something inherited from upstream. So this version bump shouldn't be the reason for that change. Again, unless I just don't know where to look. I don't have a local checkout of the source.14:51
LeePenI have a fork of nm for ceres in hand.15:51
LeePenAlso see https://bugs.debian.org/96413915:56
Unit193Good luck even gettting a response from the systemd maintainer. :)16:00
LeePenHe did respond, just downgraded it to wishlist ;)16:01
LeePenForked network-manager in ceres. Please test.20:04
fsmithreddid they break pinning again? I've got ceres pinned to 50 (and also tried 10) in chimaera, and apt tells me I have 49 packages to upgrade. I just upgaded everything before adding ceres, and if I remove the ceres line from sources.list, apt says everything is current.20:35
fsmithredI tried 'origin n=ceres' and 'origin a=ceres'20:36
fsmithredaha! 'release n=ceres' works.20:37
fsmithred(when in doubt, rtfm)20:37
ShorTieah, that takes all the fun out of it22:06
fsmithred<fsr-chimaera> tell LeePen that n-m works23:25
fsmithredthat was sent over wireless from the laptop23:26
LeePenfsmithred: Nice! :)23:39
fsmithredI installed the ceres version in chimaera23:40
fsmithredno trouble replacing wicd23:40
fsmithredand it just works23:40
LeePenThanks for trying. Good news!23:40
fsmithredI also installed the openvpn parts, but I don't have a vpn to test it.23:40

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