libera/#devuan-dev/ Tuesday, 2020-11-24

* rrq improved his zsh-ish and made policy-query behave01:25
thinkumhi folks. Interested in using Devuan, curious if anyone knows if the pkgs may be anyhow binary compatible from any Ubuntu or Debian release - seems unlikely afaik but thought to ask05:37
thinkumit's not a show-stopper, def. Monday question, I guess05:40
thinkumfan of the bsd-like init system, not to throw shadow at Ubuntu tho05:42
onefangI use a few packages from third party Debian and Ubuntu package repositories, works fine for me.  Others say that will give you problems.06:21
thinkumonefang ty. will take a look07:47
masonRandom note, unbound is pursuing the wrong fix, and while they're addressing the CVE, they're not doing so in a way that works with our start-stop-daemon as it stands.19:11
masonI'll make a note on the next pad when it comes out.19:11
masonhttps://github.com/NLnetLabs/unbound/commit/ad387832979b6ce4c93f64fe706301cd7d034e87 for what it's worth19:11
bgstack15lol, shouldn't you just comment on that commit?19:25
golinuxThis on our now very user-unfriendly pkgsearch:  Use * for globbing, or .* and friends for regex. (help)19:33
golinuxSeriously?19:34
bgstack15wait, do you consider those instructions user-unfriendly?19:40
fsmithredI don't understand the package search results20:20
fsmithredI do understand why searching for elogi* gives me elogind but not libelogind20:20
fsmithredWhy does searching for elogi.* give me libelogind???20:20
masonregex versus simple glob20:20
masonat a guess, it's interpreting elogi* as ^elogi.* internally, but seeing what it takes as regex, so interpreting elogi.* as itself20:22
masonThis'd be somewhat in keeping with the description golinux posted20:22
fsmithredyeah, I guess glob does not assume anything in front20:22
fsmithredunless you do *elogi*20:22
masonExactly.20:22
fsmithredand doing .*elogi gives the same result as elogi.* so I'm happy20:23
masonelogi. ought to work too20:23
fsmithredyup20:24
golinuxI shouldn't need a regex tutorial to do a package search.20:42
golinuxAnd I've got plenty of company . . .20:42
golinuxbgstack15: Yes, very user-unfriendly.  I predict a lot of squawking . . .20:43
golinuxAre we having a meet this week?  I vote "yes"!   The "holiday" is an American thing and really I'd rather not be reminded of that sad history of the subjugation of indigenous peoples and theft of their native land.21:48
fsmithredI won't be able to make it, or maybe can get there late. Not sure how long zoom thanksgiving will be, but it starts a half hour before the meeting.22:13
bgstack15Haha, I for one am quite thankful for a prosperous country.22:25
bgstack15this place wouldn't be the same without it22:25
bgstack15I probably won't be able to make it to the meeting. But I can send out the email, and notes email.22:26
golinuxbgstack15: Yes, please do.  A few of us may collect there . . .22:58
golinuxAs to23:26
golinux"poroperous23:26
golinuxnm.  can't type one-handed holding the phone23:27
golinuxon hold . . .23:27

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