libera/#devuan-dev/ Monday, 2020-11-30

masonbgstack15: Slow logins can sometimes be the result of failed look-ups, for instance if your client wants to present Kerberos credentials to a system not in the Kerberos domain you're logged into.00:49
masonbgstack15: Aside from that, grabbing strace of both sshd and ssh client is a great start, as you can see just where it's hanging up.00:50
masonHrm, su as well. Maybe back off to debugging your sssd.00:50
masonbgstack15: Maybe verify local accounts so you can maybe point more authoritatively to the remote auth.00:51
ShorTiebgstack15, i only find ssh logins to be slow on 1st boot after that it is fine13:20
ShorTiei'm think it's a random number thing, but not sure13:21
ShorTielike the kernel does not have enough ramdom numbers produced on 1st boot, so ssh has to wait for it to produce more before it can make the keys13:22
ShorTieonce the keys are made, login works fine from there on.....13:23
onefanghaveged might help.13:24
ShorTieSorry, not sure what that is13:25
fsmithredapt install haveged13:25
fsmithredthat should be enough13:25
onefang"haveged uses HAVEGE (HArdware Volatile Entropy Gathering and Expansion)13:26
onefangto maintain a 1M pool of random bytes used to fill /dev/random13:26
onefangwhenever the supply of random bits in dev/random falls below the low13:26
onefangwater mark of the device."13:26
ShorTieya might, but not goona add that to my image for a once for .. :/~13:28
DPACould maybe someone look into appstream/DEP-11 support for plasma-discover and gnome-software? https://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/buster/main/dep11/ https://wiki.debian.org/DEP-1114:47
DPADevuans repos doesn't have any DEP-11 metadata yet.14:47
masonDPA: Thanks for bringing that up. I'm looking at a repo tool for us and I'll want to be familiar with that.15:37
bgstack15OK, clearly I'm getting nowhere in my iso-installer work. In order for this process to happen in a timely manner, I'm going to go ahead and un-assign myself that task.16:34
masonbgstack15: This came up during the last meeting. The consensus was that we wanted to ping you and collaborate to see what parts needed attention and help.16:39
bgstack15I haven't figured out how or why it has to re-download every stinking deb/udeb for every invocation. Can it cache those?16:40
bgstack15Also, I think how I tried adding the proposed-updates (similar to the SECURITY target on lines 28,29 of pool/Makefile) didn't work, or induces its own failures...16:40
bgstack15I really don't know what I'm doing with any iso generation.16:41
masonThat's a reasonable place to start.16:42
fsmithredbgstack15, we should not have to add proposed-updates to the isos. Or at least proposed-updates should not be in the sources.list in the installed system. Better would be for everything in proposed-updates get moved to the main repo.16:55
bgstack15Ah. Is there a timeline for that? Or shall we just omit things like that lightdm accessibility fix, that new tomcat9 from LeePen, etc.?16:55
fsmithredI think we're waiting for tomcat, but I'm not sure why16:55
fsmithreddoes that get included in the server iso or the dvd?16:56
fsmithredor maybe just so that the stuff will all be moved at once.16:56
bgstack15don't know specifically. I wouldn't want tomcat installed by default...16:56
bgstack15I can add that if I need it.16:56
fsmithredif it's not already in the list of things to include, I would not add it unless there is clear demand for it from users16:57
fsmithredI missed the last meeting, so I didn't get to ask when proposed packages will be moved.16:58
fsmithredthe way to avoid all the downloads is to have a local repo. I don't have that, and so far, ISP does not cap my downloads.16:59
bgstack15Alas, I don't locally cache all the Beowulf stuff. I only cache Ceres.16:59
bgstack15but local downloads would happen way faster...16:59
bgstack15I'll have to consult the storage requirements and my storage capacity.16:59
rrqbgstack15: so you can't clone into someone with spare time?23:24
bgstack15Well, I can clone myself no problem. I call Clone #1 Dolly, and all it does is bleat. I am uncertain it has free time, though.23:26
bgstack15Clone #2 never speaks to me23:26
rrq:D23:26
bgstack15and Clone #3 was last seen heading for Mars...23:27
onefanggit clone https://bgstack15.org/23:27
bgstack15Yes, but owning a domain probably costs money. I only have a wordpress subdomain23:27
bgstack15git clone https://gitlab.com/bgstack15/stackrpms.git is one of my busiest repos.23:27
onefanggit clone https://bgstack15.unixclone.com/  # A freebie domain from afraid.org.23:28
bgstack15is that one of those ddns things that requires that clients use it for dns. So basically most users in the world will never be able to resolve my domain?23:29
onefangNope.23:29
bgstack15well... I will have to add that to the list of things I want to work on someday.23:29
bgstack15thank you!23:29
onefangI get all my freebie domains from there.23:30
onefangIncluding my personal favourite daves.notho.me.  B-)23:31
rrqbgstack15: I'll kick the can for a bit, then... at least hoping to get the package overlay sorted23:33

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