libera/#devuan-dev/ Thursday, 2020-12-03

bgstack15Has anything changed recently regarding the Ceres repositories and how they're structured or mirrored?01:30
bgstack15I think my local mirror (which is done with debmirror, into a single directory named devuan/) is borked01:30
bgstack15Maybe it was just the mirror that I was syncing from was in the middle of its own sync. Hm..01:38
yetiiirc debmirror looks for a flag file to prevent such things... but that only works if the source has that flag file (uses debmirror or compatible too)01:46
bgstack15it looks like the mirror my debmirror used this morning still doesn't have sudo 1.9.4 so maybe that mirror got busted01:56
masonfsmithred and everyone else, since most of us use this: https://bugs.debian.org/976292    That may have implications for Beowulf.06:23
golinuxI have never heard of that package.07:00
bgstack15Lol, "Chromium sucks; Debian says so"?14:09
fsmithreddid you see the list of unfixed vulnerabilities? It's long. I pulled chromium 86 from ubuntu and installed it the other day. It works in chimaera and probably in beowul, too. (from 18.04LTS)14:10
bgstack15Do you mean something other than https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?dist=unstable;package=chromium ?14:11
fsmithredyeah, I was on a deb security page or two14:16
fsmithredI'll look. Just woke up.14:16
fsmithredThis one has a more dramatic presentation: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/chromium14:18
bgstack15Wow, that is incredibly informative. I guess it's hard to chase a moving target...14:19
bgstack15I think that's why people like us tend to pick Firefox ESR...14:19
fsmithredthat's one reason14:20
fsmithrednoscript and a few other addons are high on the list14:20
fsmithredmenu bar with descriptive titles is another14:20
fsmithredchromium-browser chromium-codecs-ffmpeg chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra. Get the ones for 18.04: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=chromium14:26
fsmithredmaybe if someone complains about chromium we can trick them into forking it from ubuntu and maintaining it for the next few years.14:27
onefangSounds like a plan.14:28
fsmithredalthough it seems odd that ubuntu is patching it and not pushing the patches up to debian14:28
fsmithredsince there are a lot of devs who work on both14:28
onefangMy only chromium related complaint is that it's the only one that can show our meeting pad these days.  Used to work fine in the others, now they complain about lack of local storage, even though they allow local storage.14:29
fsmithredI'm not fond of the pad.14:30
fsmithredseems to be a resource hog14:30
bgstack15Intriguing; I use the Dyne pad in both Palemoon and Firefox browsers just fine.14:30
bgstack15I have a login though, which might make a difference.14:30
fsmithredoh yeah, I alwasys look at it in ff-esr on my desktop14:31
onefangPalemoon and Firefox ESR are the ones it fails in.14:31
onefang"CryptPad needs localStorage to work. Try changing your cookie permissions, or using a different browser"14:31
onefangThen I click OK and it just shows the fist logo.14:32
fsmithredI get the fist logo and then the page loads. Eventually.14:33
onefangAccording to the Firefox ESR prefs, pad.dyne.orf is already storing local data.14:33
fsmithredstupid question in the lower right about saving it.14:33
fsmithredunder Privacy I have it set to Custom and all four boxes are checked.14:34
onefangAnd it has "Allow" set for storage and cookies.14:34
fsmithrednoscript, https-only14:34
fsmithredwhere's that?14:35
onefangI don't have any plugins for firefox, that's what I use Palemoon for.  Firefox is for stuff that wont work on Palemoon with all the protections turned on, or even with them all disabled for a given site.14:36
onefangPrivacy & Security -> Cookies and Site Data -> Manage permissions -> type in the domain name.14:37
fsmithredthat's fine-grained cookie control.14:38
fsmithredI have a bunch that are allowed to accept cookies but they all get deleted when I close ff14:39
onefangAnd local storage.  That's the things the error messages says it doesn't have.14:39
fsmithredoh, first one is pad.dyne.org Allow14:39
fsmithredall others are Allow for session14:40
onefang"Try changing your cookie permissions, or using a different browser" Permissions is set correctly, but using a different browser (chromium) works.  I have 64 cores, 256 GB of RAM now, I can afford to run a bunch of browsers now.  It's just annoying.14:41
fsmithreddamn, you could run a different browser for each website14:42
onefangI'd quickly run out of monitors.14:43
fsmithredvirtual desktops FTW14:43
onefangAlready got five of those.14:43
bgstack15now, is Ubuntu even still packaging chromium (as a dpkg)?14:45
fsmithredoh right. Starting with 20.04 it's a snap package14:48
bgstack15oh snap!14:59
fsmithreddpkg: yes, will remove chromium-codecs-ffmpeg in favour of chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra15:06
fsmithredso you only need two packages, not three15:06
fsmithredcan't remember where I was told to get the -extra package. I thing it was when I tried to install the -browser package.15:07
fsmithredyeah, dpkg complains. Either codecs package will satisfy the dep.15:09
emdeteHi, i read here https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=589 you are interested in Sparc hardware - is that still true?18:41
emdete(Same page links https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-maintainers/blob/master/README.md but a password is needed there...)18:46
fsmithredemdete, there seems to be soething wrong with that link18:56
fsmithreddocs for maintainers are here: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/maintainers18:59
fsmithredI'll make a note on the meeting pad about your question18:59
golinuxfsmithred: Can you please change the link to it's current location?19:42
fsmithredok19:43
golinuxThere are likely many links to the old gitlab on the forum.  Maybe a project for rrq to find and correct them?19:43
fsmithredif he could run a script just to find and list them all, it would be a big help19:43
fsmithredmight or might not be easy to script changing them.19:44
fsmithreddone19:47
fsmithrednow lunch19:47
LeePenIs it me or is vdc.dyne.org not working?21:32
LeePenIn now!21:32
fsmithredbe right there21:33
fsmithredno more artwork on our git? Is there some other term I should be searching?23:23
golinuxIt is all there . . . somewhere23:26
golinuxLook under editors23:26
fsmithredok23:26
fsmithrednope23:27
golinuxhttps://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation23:28
fsmithredwow, I didn't know we had inserts for CD cases.23:34
golinuxHellekin's doing23:35
fsmithredI was looking for the vulcan hand with "Where no toy..."23:37
fsmithredred bg23:37
fsmithredI have a copy here but wanted to link it.23:37
golinuxIt's in there somewhere possibly in another location. Might be with the old backgrounds23:41
rrqdo https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.xml pages work on all browsers now?23:52
fsmithredrrq, it works for me in chromium, but in ff-esr it's still being blocked by unknown javascript23:57
fsmithredoh, if I set noscript to Default setting for devuan.org then I get some error output on the page23:59

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