libera/#devuan-dev/ Wednesday, 2021-01-13

bb|hcbhi02:10
bb|hcblooks like files.devuan.org stopped updating?02:10
Xenguyrrq ^^ ?02:16
Xenguyhi bb|hcb , thanks for the bug report : -)02:17
bb|hcbi am updating the gpsd fork for devuan, and cannot install anyting (e.g. build deps)02:19
fsmithredyou must mean pkgmaster.devuan.org or deb.devuan.org02:19
fsmithredfiles.devuan.org has isos02:19
bb|hcbi checked only files.devuan.org::devuan (rsync)02:20
fsmithredwe haven't made any changes there recently02:21
XenguyIs the rsync service running?02:21
fsmithredI don't know02:21
fsmithredoh, I can check fdo02:22
bb|hcbyes, but packages that are updates in debian (e.g. with +b2) are still referenced with the previous version, which is no longer in the respective debian mirror02:22
bb|hcbupdates=updated02:22
Xenguyaha, so the rsync service is up, good to know02:22
fsmithredrsync is running02:22
Xenguyyay02:23
rrqamprolla's sick atm02:23
fsmithredthere are no packages on files.devuan.org02:23
onefangI saw a bunch of "file has vanished: "/home/vesta/devuan/log/.amprolla.txt.wBVwze", but no error reports for the last two hours.02:24
XenguyI hope it's not the virus = )02:24
bb|hcbi also run a mirror... :)02:24
onefangMost of the mirrors have less than 100% updated weekly statistics showing now.02:24
XenguyI wonder why that would be?02:25
onefang"rrq: amprolla's sick atm" would be my guess.02:26
XenguyIs that just a default error level, or ...?02:26
bb|hcband first thought something broke on my end, but after checking all looks fine. from what i see packages that come directly from debian are still referenced with their old version and not avail on the debian mirror02:26
Xenguyonefang: no, your comment02:26
Xenguyonefang: oh I see, gotcha02:26
onefangWhich of my comments?  lol02:27
XenguySorry I too confused to keep track of my comments, let alone yours!  8 -D02:27
Xenguy*I'm02:27
* Xenguy checks food on the stove...02:28
onefangFor my first comment .amprolla.txt.wBVwze is a temporary file while Amprolla updates pkgmaster.  rsync will report that sort of thing every now and then, coz rsyncs can catch things mid update.  But several of them in a row is likely some sort of odd issue.  Or really bad timing.02:30
rrqseem a and leepen has a race... (I add a bug and he fixes it; repeat) .. he's asleep atm02:31
rrqs/seem a/seems I/02:31
onefangFor my second comment, usually most mirrors have 100% updated in the Weekly statistics column of apt-panopticon, right now only three are 100%, but that includes pkgmaster, which is always 100%, since it's the reference.02:32
onefangThough being weekly stats, they'll take a week to get back up to 100%.02:33
bb|hcbI mean that data on pkgmaster looks not updated02:33
rrqthere have been updates to debian pacakages which have not been merged yet, because amprolla is sick02:34
onefangWhich is back to amprolla I suspect.  I'll take rrq's word for that.02:34
bb|hcbwill it self heal?02:39
onefangI suspect we need to feed Leepen and rrq buckets of coffee so they are both awake at the same time to coordinate amprolla fixes.02:41
Xenguy+102:42
onefangOnce amprolla is feeding pkgmaster correctly, the mirrors will sync correctly.02:42
onefangAnd a week later my weekly stats will be good again.02:43
rrqyeah; we picked up on an unusual failure case last week, but fixing has rather exaggerated the problem so far02:45
rrqit's on schedule to something better by midday UK time I believe02:47
bb|hcbok, thanks :)03:02
bb|hcb\q03:02
JackFrostLeePen: ..Curious, have you considered picking up opensysusers too?05:02
drizztHi all !13:38
drizztI updated my system today and have a segfault with geeqie13:39
drizzt1.6-3 segfaults13:39
drizztbut 1.6-5 which i installed from debian repository does not13:39
drizztmaybe the fix is simply to update the package reference in packages list13:40
drizzt(is this task automated, and new package from debian will do it to devuan soon ?)13:41
onefangDevuan Beowulf (current stable) has Geeqie 1.4.  So I guess you are using an experimental, testing, or unstable Devuan?13:42
drizztceres (unstable)13:42
onefangMost of Devuan is straight from Debian.13:42
drizztthat's where all the interesting stuff happens :)13:43
drizztonefang: yep, i know13:43
drizztthat's why i tested this one, I did not find geeqie in "devuan specific" lists13:43
onefangMost Devuan package mirrors just redirect most packages to Debian package mirrors.  So yes, it's "automatic".13:44
drizztand that's why I think the fix is simply to reference the 1.6-5 in the lists13:44
onefangAnd I gotta go eat dinner soon.13:44
drizztthe only part I do not know is wether this is automatic :)13:45
drizztnow I know :)13:45
bgstack15Devuan meet tomorrow at 20:30 UTC! Pad is https://pad.dyne.org/code/#/2/code/edit/R6zsgf72YLBUls392htSzdzn/14:46
LeePen I believe amprolla is behaving better now.17:43
LeePenpkgmaster.d.o is no up to date.17:44
LeePenMirrors should catch up over the next few hours.17:44
LeePenLet me know if you still find inconsistencies.17:44
drizztLeePen: you mean like the one with geeqie ?17:48
fsmithredgeeqie is now up to date with sid17:49
LeePenhttps://pkginfo.devuan.org/xsl-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=geeqie17:49
LeePendrizzt: ^^17:49
fsmithredso is wget17:49
LeePenYes17:49
fsmithredand linux-image-amd64. Those are the only ones I checked.17:49
LeePenfsmithred: seems encouraging.17:50
fsmithreda dollar says you did it right and they all updated17:50
fsmithredor are you guys up north going back to using euros?17:51
LeePenBartering mainly ;)17:51
fsmithredalso, latest netinstall iso installs uefi correctly and also speech install (minus that new package for PA which works when added.)17:51
LeePenEven better17:52
fsmithreddo we know how we're gonna make that package get installed automatically?17:52
fsmithredoh yeah, everyone with PA should get that, so we could add it to a task- package17:53
LeePenYes. I looked at that. I can't see where PA gets pulled in.17:53
drizztPA ?17:54
LeePenWe could add it to task-desktop.17:54
LeePendrizzt: pulseaudio17:54
fsmithredpulseaudio17:54
drizztanyway, thanks for the fix :)17:54
LeePendrizzt: nw17:55
drizzthum, OK17:55
LeePenfsmithred: I'll give it some thought.17:56
drizzthave fun, and happy new year to everyone !17:56
drizzt+++17:56
fsmithredI'm firing up a VM to ask aptitude why17:56
golinuxXfce depends iirc18:10
onefangMy last to package sync emails say a shit load of deletions happened.18:13
onefangEr "last two".18:13
LeePenonefang: Yes, I cleared out some (I hope) cruft18:14
onefangMostly hash files by the look of it.18:14
LeePenThe old hash files were being kept on pkgmaster.18:14
LeePenThey are being deleted now.18:15
LeePenBut there was a backlog (about a year's worth)18:15
LeePenAlso obsolete versions of packages in pool/18:15
onefangOK, I'll stop panicking now then.  B-)18:17
LeePenMaybe I should have warned. Sorry.18:17
onefangWell, if we get complaints in #devuan, you can explain things.18:19
LeePenThe Good News™ is that it will make mirrors use fewer resources ;)18:21
fsmithredIf you haven't already done it, amprolla.txt need logrotate18:37
fsmithredtask-mate-desktop recommends orca which needs PA, task-xfce-desktop depends xfce4 which depends xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin, which recommends PA18:43
fsmithredI didn't check any others yet18:43
LeePenThere is no easy way for us to hook into that AFAICS18:45
fsmithredmaybe make it a Recommends for task-desktop18:46
fsmithredtaht already includes firefox-esr which Recommends pulseaudio18:46
fsmithredff-esr is a Rec not a Dep18:47
LeePenGood idea18:47
rrqfsmithred: another why to find the "why" behind pulsaeudio is to download DVD1_LIST_amd4 from the installer-iso content logs and look at "grep -B1 ^pulseaudio" which enumerates the reasons for including that package in the DVD pool22:52
rrqDVD = desktop iso22:53
rrq(first "why" should be with my swedish accent so it sounds like "way")23:00
fsmithredwhere is this dvd list?23:02
rrqhttps://jenkins.devuan.dev/job/installer-iso/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/content/beowulf-3.1-amd64/desktop-20210110203814/DVD1_LIST_amd6423:03
fsmithredempty file23:06
fsmithredoh shit, it's still downloading23:06
fsmithredno23:06
fsmithredthat's the iso that's still downloading23:06
rrqjust 20M23:06
fsmithredok, wget is actually downloading something now. firefox gave me the empty file23:07
rrqyes, it's not really for interactive access23:08

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