libera/#devuan-dev/ Wednesday, 2021-02-10

parazydmason: What happened to plasma41?00:27
masonparazyd: That's a good question. I'm not entirely sure.00:28
masonparazyd: I'll see if I can find out.00:29
parazydIn any case, ask ChanServ to see who currently has what.00:29
parazydaccess #channel list00:29
masonYar, /msg chanserv access #devuan-foo list00:30
masonparazyd: I'm under the impression that you're the person to talk to to obtain the ability to become an op as needed.00:30
masonYou appear to have all the bits.00:31
parazydI will review the access tomorrow00:32
masonSounds good.00:32
bgstack15plasma41 got a new job a few months ago and I suspect that takes up a lot of time.00:38
parazydok00:40
parazydI'll sleep on this and figure out what's best tomorrow00:40
golinuxparazyd: plasma has entered the workforce with a full time job so not around so much.01:22
golinuxYeah like bgstack15 said.01:22
golinux(note to self . . . read to end before posting)01:23
Jjp137rrq, regarding the installation problem with the CD isos, I experimented with a plain server install that had the CDs in sources.list and compared the list of packages that get installed using 'apt-get --dry-run install task-xfce-desktop' with and without a network mirror to supplement the CDs, and it seems that the trouble is related to the notification-daemon package, which doesn't seem to be on any of the08:17
Jjp137CDs (?)08:17
Jjp137(oops) but it seems that if I install notification-daemon while online, and then remove the network mirror from sources.list, apt-get update, and apt-get install task-xfce-desktop then, it works and doesn't pull in cinnamon at the same time08:18
Jjp137from looking in aptitude, libnotify4 recommends notification-daemon, and there is a notification-daemon package but cinnamon, mate-notification-daemon, and xfce4-notifyd also provide that package name08:20
Jjp137and for some strange reason, if notification-daemon is absent, apt seems to choose cinnamon to satisfy the recommend even though xfce4-notifyd is also going to be installed and I don't get why at all08:21
Jjp137anyway I guess a quick fix is to just put notification-daemon on one of the CDs somewhere and hopefully it'll actually work in the installer without requiring a manual apt-get -f install08:22
rrqmmm if there's a dependency chain to a virtual package with multiple implementation, then the alphabetically first one will be the default ... though I'll try it out08:38
rrqbecause xfce4-notifyd is an explicit recommends08:39
rrqit might relate to when/how the dependencies are discovered.. maybe it's a "depends" chain to notification-daemon, which then resolves to mate-notification-daemon as preferred, before the recommends chain to xfce4-notifyd08:41
Jjp137ah I see xfce4-goodies has "xfce4-notifyd | notification-daemon | notify-osd" hm.08:41
Jjp137although what you said could be the case too08:42
fsmithredping parazyd - someone is trying plymouth  https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=27308#p2730813:00
parazydfsmithred: It's not ready yet. I'm going to get it working in Maemo Leste first, and then continue in ceres to avoid useless builds.13:20
bgstack15I for one like plymouth (on certain systems), so I will welcome a real devuan package for it, in Ceres!13:27

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