libera/#devuan-dev/ Sunday, 2021-02-14

golinuxChicago9506:48
golinuxoops06:48
yeti;-D06:49
bgstack15Oh, so on the topic of Chicago95, the Chicago95 team wanted to know if the package would/could be included if they could find slightly-more-offbrand icons and other images (some are in the GTK theme itself).13:32
yetihttps://github.com/tabler/tabler-icons  <<<  I'm thinking about at least using them in my texts.  buring hours to get them in to my GUI probably does not pay back18:36
yetihttps://github.com/tabler/tabler-icons/blob/master/icons/hand-little-finger.svg <<< is that the dr.evil "sign"?18:38
golinuxbgstack15: afaik devuan only includes packages coming from debian or those necessary to eliminate systemd stuff.18:39
golinuxWe don't host third party stuff.18:40
yetithen devuan never could have had raspi images like in the beginning because their kernel and other boot files came from outside18:41
golinuxYou might have missed the discussion when Lars was asking about his wallpaper license being conpatible with devuans18:41
golinuxWe can't host everyone's favorite project.18:42
yetiI've no problem with that...18:43
yetimy 1st try for 3rd party stuff is looking for thei deb-sources and if not exosting it'll go to /opt or I quick-n-dirty debianise it18:43
yetioften I just stop when it builds... not filling out each field in the debian/* dir18:46
parazydyeti: The raspberry Pi blobs are redistributable18:46
parazydyeti: And we compiled the kernels18:46
yetiso 3rd party not from debian18:47
parazydWhat's the problem?18:47
yeti17:39 <+golinux> bgstack15: afaik devuan only includes packages coming from debian or those necessary to eliminate systemd stuff.18:47
yetithat did read like a contradiction18:48
parazyd*packages*18:49
parazydAlso yeah, the images aren't being officially built anymore18:49
yetiyip... the kernel of raspi images were no packages18:49
parazydI maintain the sdk however, so anyone is free to use it18:49
yetithats why my cubie runs a frankendevuan using debians armhf kernel18:49
parazydok :)18:50
yetiI had >12 PIs with devuan but not getting kernel updates was too annoying18:51
yetimaybe today devuanising debian's PI images would work.18:52
parazydYeah I couldn't influence others to let me build kernel packages on the CI18:52
parazydPerhaps I should try again :p18:52
yetiwhen I tried it looong ago, debian's PI images killed their own bootability on updates18:52
yeti:-Þ18:52
parazydYeah18:52
yetiand the maintainer ignored my hints what to change18:52
yetibasically a 1liner18:52
parazydFor example in Maemo Leste I manage to build them just fine https://phoenix.maemo.org/job/droid4-linux-binaries/architecture=armhf,label=armhf/18:53
yetibut that toook >9 month to get adopted18:53
parazydDebian is super-slow when it comes to fixing anyting18:53
parazydI have dozens of bugs 5-6 months old, still unanswered18:53
yetiI tried it by mail, issue and via chat...  and then went away...18:54
yetiprobly issue last18:55
yetia kind of community repo might do the trick.  If at least all inofficial stuff is in a well known place, everyone knows where to discuss it and a community QA might evolve19:03
yetilike debian-multimedia but not as 1 man show19:04
parazydYeah19:05
bgstack15I think we could call it "devuan-extra"20:03
bgstack15golinux: we do package xlennart, which while amusing and merely a reskin of xbill, would count as a person's favorite.20:03
golinuxIt has been there from day 120:04
golinuxThe problem is where do we draw the line.  Someone is welcome to host a server for this purpose but I don't think it's appropriate for Devuan to do that.20:06
golinuxMaybe that's a project you'd want to take on?20:06
bgstack15I don't have the personal infra to host a "devuan-extra" but we could use the Open Build Service for such a named thing.20:17
bgstack15But then anybody could choose to name something on the OBS "devuan-whatever" so it wouldn't look any more legitimate than anything else on there.20:17

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