libera/#devuan-dev/ Saturday, 2021-03-20

tuxd3vhello guys,03:34
tuxd3vI wanted to know if there are any guidelines about users, and passwords by default for devuan?03:35
tuxd3vthe idea, to streamline everything :903:35
tuxd3v:)03:35
yetionly using de??an?04:02
yetiI hate when the default install of (e.g. RasPIan) uses ID 1000 for a default user.04:03
yetithen I wanted to use 999 instead... as my main nonRootish admin user04:04
yetiit had gropup 999 == SPI04:04
yetistuff should grow upwards, so I expected it to be free on every resonnable debian sibling04:04
yetireasonnable and raspian in one sentence might have benn the problem04:05
yeti:-Þ04:05
yetiand mixing oses is the next problem04:05
yetiPkgSrc allocates users for server and similar in the range 1000++04:05
yetiNetBSD's default range for (real existing?) users?04:06
yetionly base system stuff is below 100004:06
yetiso currently I'm #10000 on BSDs and #1000 on reasonable de??an siblings04:06
yeti*sigh!*04:06
yetia more portable strategy would be nice04:07
yetilike FHS but for useraccounts04:07
yetiwait a bit and we'll all be UUIDs only...04:10
yeti:-/04:10
tuxd3vifconfig04:10
tuxd3vdamm sorry.. :/04:10
tuxd3vWell that is yet a broader subject indeed, interesting and I feel a necessity..04:11
tuxd3vNowadays majority of Linux distros alocate normal users 1000++04:11
tuxd3vand system users till 99904:12
tuxd3vbut yes, not all system users in all distros have the same uid, its yet a mess, some standard on that would be nice, even tought that we already have lots of them fixed..04:13
tuxd3vwhat are the BSD you use? :)04:13
yetisystemd-coredump:x:996:996:systemd Core Dumper:/:/usr/sbin/nologin  <<<  raspian04:13
tuxd3vwell.. yes with systemd.. things get nasty04:14
yetispi, i2c, gpio, systemd-coredump (groups) from 999 downwards04:15
yetiso already a mess in the de??an dimension04:15
yetiother systemd-accounts are in the 100+ range therew04:16
yetiwhy systemd-coredump gets a special treatment is unknown to me04:16
yetiotherwise I'd have said they allocate hardware related stuff 999-downwards04:16
yetifor standard users and services we need a global consensus like for port numbers and such04:17
yetior ugly UUIDs for everything04:18
yetiput users in the DNS too04:18
yeti@datakraken-14.004:18
yetimeh...04:18
yetiI'm sooo damn happy not to work in IT any more... it luckily is hobby only!04:19
onefangAll you need to do is get everyone to agree on this new standard of yours.04:19
yetihttps://xkcd.com/927/04:19
yetidebian has something like that04:20
* yeti demands that raspian be based on gentoo instead04:21
yetifar far away from me04:21
onefangThat would be rasptoo then.04:22
yetisystemd-coredump:x:998:  <<< debian1004:22
yetiso != rasPIan04:22
yetimess^mess04:23
yetithat really shalt not happen in the same "flavour" of OS04:23
tuxd3vNow deal with raspberry ethernet interface name 'enxb757bc88e596' in my case... nuts04:26
yetihorror sapiens breaks everything.04:27
tuxd3vnow imagine you administrating a park of machines that all of them have names like that...be happy remembering all them.. :)04:27
tuxd3vyou need a dns resolver only for that :D04:28
yetior a.l.f.r.e.d.04:28
yeti:-D04:28
yetihttps://www.open-mesh.org/projects/alfred/wiki04:29
yetiok... but if there is a non-root-default-user, please dont put that on #100004:35
yetimaybe even debian should add that in a wenn known location of their default passwd/group files04:36
yetiweLL04:36
yetihunter2:*:1337:1337:...04:37
yetimwhuahahahahahaaa....04:37
amesserJenkins server complains early during the build, that it cant connect to gitea11:49
amesserhttps://ci01.dev1.cloud/view/failing/job/devuan-package-builder/478/console11:49
gnu_srs2Hello, what is the link for how to issue a build?21:06
gnu_srs2eudev-3.2.9-9~beowulf121:06
golinuxgnu_srs2: Maybe it's in here https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/maintainers21:26
gnu_srs2golinux: Thanks, I found the link to build there:  https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/maintainers/JenkinsAutobuild.md21:46
gnu_srs2Problem is I could not build for Label: beowulf-proposed-updates: eudev-3.2.9-9~beowulf1. Instead eudev-3.2.9-9 is built again when choosing Label:unstable.21:49

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