libera/#devuan-dev/ Saturday, 2021-04-24

yetibecause it is the default?08:57
rrqLeePen: isn't wpa_gui an alternative a well?13:18
rrq.. the package is "wpagui"; the binary is wpa_gui13:22
LeePenrrq: Never tried it myself. From the package description it looks as if it only manages wifi. Have you used it for wired?17:43
Unit193Some people liked ceni to do some networking things too, I think it's a TUI but I never used it.17:47
tuxd3vUnit193, Ceni is nice, it does the job, but its cli18:25
Xenguytuxd3v, Is ceni suitable for managing different public wifi connections easily?18:27
tuxd3vXenguy, it has wifi, and ethernet options, however I only tested him with ethernet18:32
tuxd3vbut its a cli application18:32
XenguyI have not tried ceni, but it looks like it uses ncurses, so maybe a 'TUI' (text user interface) ?18:34
XenguyI just removed wicd (which will not be available in Chimaera I'm told), and replaced it with connman/cmst, and it works well so far...18:35
XenguyCeni might be worth a look too; I tend to like ncurses software18:36
tuxd3vyes it uses, its a perl application very small in size very self contained, and its nice.18:36
tuxd3vdoes conman/cmst work with ethernet + WiFi ?18:36
Xenguyconnman/cmst handles ethernet fine, and just looking at wifi now.  Appears to show nearby wireless AP's fine.18:40
tuxd3vho, we also have the heitor application too, but don't know if its packed18:48
tuxd3vthe simple-netaid18:48
fsmithredit's not in the repo yet18:49
XenguyAny idea how trivial or non-trivial it would be to get an option for connman/cmst into MATE?19:14
XenguyLike what was done recently for XFCE19:14
LeePenXenguy: do you mean into task-mate-desktop?19:20
XenguyLeePen, I think that is what I mean, yes; corresponding to the recent similar operation in XFCE19:21
XenguyIIUC, currently task-mate-desktop only references network-manager (nm) by default?19:22
LeePenYes, I didn't change that. But it is easy to if that is what is wanted.19:23
XenguyGreat, if it is easy to do, I think it would be a good idea to offer an alternative to nm.  But I would be inclined to defer to more expert opinions : -)19:24
LeePenDone in tasksel 3.65+devuan3. Just building now.19:34
XenguyAsk and ye shall receive : -)  Thanks very much LeePen19:35
fsmithredI just removed n-m from a mate install and it did not complain. I installed ceni, and that seems to work fine (wired)19:41
XenguyIt's good to know that the world does not revolve around n-m alone19:41
fsmithredok, one thing to watch out for with ceni...19:45
fsmithred'scuse me, Ceni19:45
fsmithredit does not tell you if your interfaces file already has stuff in it, and it just replaces the file.19:46
fsmithredI tested with my bridge setup file, and it's all gone.19:46
onefangDoes it's own result also get overwritten on a later run?19:48
XenguyHrm, thanks for the heads-up19:49
fsmithredonefang, I think so19:49
* onefang sticks with a text editor then.19:50
fsmithredoh, I missed a screen before, maybe because I double-clicked19:50
fsmithredI have three choices: Reconfigure eth0, remove configuration for eth0, cancel19:51
fsmithredReconfigure presents the setup screen with the fields already filled in with the values in the file19:52
fsmithredRemove gives you a blank setup screen, and if you accept it with no values, you get a dhcp stanza for eth0.19:53
fsmithredok, double-click was not the problem. With my comples interfaces file, it just gives me an empty setup screen with Reconfigure.19:54
fsmithredI think it should give a warning that there's something in the file that the use should inpect.19:55
XenguyYeah, sounds a bit crude.  Of course it's simple enough to just backup e/n/i before messing with Ceni I suppose20:09
fsmithredyeah, that's what I did to test20:10

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