libera/#devuan-dev/ Thursday, 2021-06-24

plasma41Riddle me this: How come our _forked_ rsyslog binary package depends on libsystemd0?19:25
plasma41There's a --disable-libsystemd configure flag available, so why aren't we using it?19:29
plasma41Furthermore, why isn't libsystemd-dev a banned package?19:30
plasma41Or libsystemd0 for that matter?19:31
golinuxBecause elogind0 won't work without libsystemd0 in place?  https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=192519:38
plasma41I think what's going on with rsyslog is that the upstream default compile configuration is to include libsystemd if it is available and while libsystemd-dev is removed from the Build-Depends field of the control file, the libczmq-dev build dependency depends on libsystemd-dev resulting in it being found and included by the rsyslog configure script.19:40
golinuxPut it on the pad . . .19:42
plasma41I propose we fork src:czmq to remove the libsystemd build dependency (there's a simple --with-libsystemd=no configure flag we can use) and also explicitly disable libsystemd in the rules file for rsyslog.19:43
plasma41Adding to the pad...19:43
golinuxThanks19:50
golinuxPerhaps you will consider taking on the task you propose . . .19:51
plasma41I'm working on a patch19:54
plasma41bgstack15: I think you'll be interested in the scrollback. I made a copy in my section of the pad19:59
plasma41golinux: I can't find anything in that thread that states or implies that elogind0 doesn't work without libsystemd0 in place. In fact, the libelogind0 packages declares that it Conflicts with the libsystemd0 package.20:08
plasma41s/libelogind0 packages/libelogind0 package/20:09
fsmithredlsd0 gets pulled in with a debootstrap install, before there's any elogind.20:16
plasma41fsmithred: An install done with debootstrap or an install of debootstrap?20:17
fsmithredwith20:17
fsmithredI forget what pulls it in20:18
plasma41hmm... I'll investigate this20:19
plasma41proposed patches added to the pad. Requesting comments21:20
golinuxWTF is happening on jitsi?22:26
golinuxPlease turn it off and I'll come back.22:27

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