libera/#devuan-dev/ Saturday, 2021-08-21

d4n13Lhey. anyone I can talk to about adding a new public mirror we setup a few days ago?05:17
onefangISO or package mirror?  If it's a package mirror, then I'm the one to talk to.  But I'm in weekend mode right now.05:30
onefanghttps://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan_mirror_walkthrough.txt step 2 if it's a package mirror, but you'll have to wait until I'm done weekending before I can deal with that..05:43
onefangd4n13L: ^^^05:44
d4n13Lcurrently https://files.devuan.org/MIRRORS.txt followed this one, but I guess thats the ISO images, right? but sure, I'll shoot an email for the archive then05:51
onefangYes that's the ISOs.06:01
d4n13Lyup, just sent out the email to mirros@ - but enjoy your weekend, obviously nothing urgent ;)06:04
onefangThanks for your mirror.06:04
d4n13Lsure thing, kind of a self-help situation, will make our local setups and updates way faster and more reliable here :)06:05
bb|hcbonefang: In your crontab running once every four hours or so, e.g., four times a day:12:13
bb|hcbI have somehow missed when we moved to 16 hour day ;)12:14
bb|hcbThat is in https://files.devuan.org/MIRRORS.txt; also cron example is wrong, should be 42 */412:15
onefangThat's for ISO mirrors, not package mirrors.  I only deal with package mirrors.12:24
onefangThough my own mirror server does both.12:24
onefangPersonally I'm more of a 32 hours per day man.  lol12:25
LeePenchimaera-backports is enabled in amprolla.13:01
masonRandomly, about the eudev/udev thing, I'm starting to have second thoughts about saying the most reasonable thing is to go ahead and use systemd-udev. I'm also less convinced now that maintaining the eudev fork is ideal either. Looking at alternatives, two things that jump out are mdev and vdev.19:25
masonhttps://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Mdev19:25
masonhttp://judecnelson.blogspot.com/2015/01/introducing-vdev.html19:25
masonThe BSDs also obviously don't use systemd-udev, but I don't know their devfs implementations well enough to know if they're even vaguely portable.19:25
masonSuckless has smdev, but I've been questioning my championing Suckless tools lately.19:28
masonah: https://git.busybox.net/busybox/plain/docs/mdev.txt is the better link for mdev19:28
masonI'm coming around to thinking mdev might be the way forward, and I might toy with it a bit.19:30
fsmithredthere's also vdev. If you want to know more, talk to aitor. He has used it in the past year, and possibly has some live-isos with it.19:37
fsmithredmason ^^^19:37
masonfsmithred: Yar, golinux was just giving me some history.19:39
masonSeems more complex, but if there are social ties that matters.19:39
masonFor my part, I want to present everything for the next meeting and have some links, etc.19:41
masonI'm far, far from having a strong notion of the best way to go.19:41
onefangThe old maintainer of busybox (Rob Landley) left and started a similar thing called toybox.  Not sure if he has an mdev type thing for that yet.  I do know he runs Devuan.20:17
onefangI'm off to bed now.20:19
gnu_srsFor me either tool is OK: vdev (not maintained anymore by Jude/aitor?), mdev (don't know much about that especially upstream support),20:35
gnu_srseudev (not interested to become upstream, packaging is OK), systemd-udev (please god forgive).20:35
golinuxmason et al . . . FTR, Jude Nelson's introduction of vdev on dng in 2015: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/search/20150102.075852.283fc703@ml:dng,judecnelson.en.html20:36

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