| fsmithred | I assume it will happen soon. | 00:00 |
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| fsmithred | I see the new version is in ceres. I can install it in chimaera. Is there anything specific I should look for? | 00:04 |
| fsmithred | or was it just a problem with upgrading from beowulf? | 00:04 |
| bb|hcb | fsmithred: from what i saw the other day - there should be two important testcases - 1) converting from udev and 2) upgrading from previous eudev (i'd assume that it does not matter if its beowulf or 3.2.9-9 - it looks like backported to 3.2.9-9~beowulf1) | 01:04 |
| fsmithred | I just upgrade eudev in chimaera and it seems to be working | 01:05 |
| bb|hcb | But there are two transitional packages for udev in Devuan and there may be some friction with them too | 01:05 |
| bb|hcb | Do you have them installed? | 01:05 |
| fsmithred | checking... | 01:06 |
| fsmithred | 1:3.2.9+devuan4 | 01:06 |
| fsmithred | yes | 01:06 |
| bb|hcb | I tested with them removed before upgrading 3.2.9-9 to 3.2.9-10 :) Then the upgrade path should be good | 01:07 |
| fsmithred | aptitude says udisks2 depends on it | 01:07 |
| fsmithred | :) | 01:07 |
| fsmithred | yeah, there were no complaints | 01:07 |
| bb|hcb | true, but eudev provides udev | 01:08 |
| fsmithred | yeah, I'm about to remove it. I assume that's safe. | 01:09 |
| bb|hcb | 100% safe | 01:10 |
| fsmithred | I see I have libudev1 in beowulf. I guess I can remove that too. | 01:11 |
| bb|hcb | Both are similar... Its normal for transitions to stay for a release cycle, some future eudev will add Breaks/Replaces and they will disappear | 01:12 |
| bb|hcb | About the other test case - its more complicated - my guess is to install a fresh bullseye and upgrade it to ceres | 01:14 |
| bb|hcb | I have started doing that test, it will take time... | 01:59 |
| bb|hcb | OK, it worked somehow, but for this conversion there are lots of caveats | 02:19 |
| bb|hcb | Will it be useful to post the console log somewhere? | 02:23 |
| fsmithred | bullseye to ceres? | 02:25 |
| fsmithred | maybe forum or dng mailing list | 02:25 |
| bb|hcb | no, I managed to do it and it worked, but there were caveats; I am asking if it will be useful to post the log | 02:30 |
| fsmithred | probably can't hurt to have it recorded. We'll be testing migrations from bullseye to daedelus after chimaera is released, so blsy to ceres now makes sense. | 02:32 |
| fsmithred | ok, I think I'm lost in the B's | 02:33 |
| fsmithred | wtf is bullseye? | 02:33 |
| fsmithred | that just went stable, didn't it? | 02:33 |
| bb|hcb | yep, current stable is bullseye | 02:33 |
| fsmithred | ok, yeah. you scouted out some traps for blsy to daedelus. | 02:34 |
| fsmithred | which would be both migration and upgrade. | 02:35 |
| fsmithred | migrations are tricky | 02:35 |
| bb|hcb | This upgrade was small... It will grow over time | 02:36 |
| bb|hcb | Can you suggest where to post? Its 1100 lines | 02:37 |
| fsmithred | can you trim it without losing important information? | 02:38 |
| fsmithred | either forum or dng or devuan-dev mailing list would be good. Forum is actually more durable. | 02:39 |
| fsmithred | mailing lists still lose posts, I think. | 02:39 |
| fsmithred | I'm not sure what the line limits are for any of those. | 02:40 |
| fsmithred | I just asked. Might get an answer. | 02:41 |
| bb|hcb | https://gist.github.com/bbonev/699611fd7a61f58d00f8c35c5256e8c3 | 02:44 |
| bb|hcb | I don't have acct on the forums :( | 02:45 |
| fsmithred | oh, that works. I can post a link on the forum. | 02:46 |
| fsmithred | you didn't install sysvinit-core? | 02:55 |
| golinux | fsmithred: You did. :) | 02:56 |
| fsmithred | what? | 02:56 |
| golinux | Get an answer | 02:56 |
| mason | bb|hcb: Did you do a debootstrap install initially? | 02:56 |
| fsmithred | golinux, thanks | 02:56 |
| mason | bb|hcb: Anyway, if you want to do a debootstrap install of Debian to start with, you can go straight to sysvinit and not have it force in systemd. https://bpa.st/4MJA | 02:58 |
| bb|hcb | mason: no, plain debian 11 with ssh only; then converted it to Devuan ceres | 02:59 |
| mason | clarified, longer duration paste: https://bpa.st/P7XQ | 03:00 |
| mason | bb|hcb: kk, that works | 03:00 |
| bb|hcb | fsmithred: I followed those: https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/en/buster-to-beowulf - there is no sysvinit-core mentioned for manual install and I later realized its missing | 03:01 |
| bb|hcb | Maybe there it is expected sysvinit-core to be pulled by a dependancy that no longer exists in the newer packages? | 03:01 |
| fsmithred | there are some migration scripts that were written because the dev1fanboy instructions haven't been working lately | 03:02 |
| bb|hcb | Maybe. The point behind what I did is to see how eudev 3.2.9-10 installs over udev - IMHO its OK | 03:03 |
| fsmithred | good | 03:06 |
| fsmithred | here's Tito's migration script. This one is desktop oriented: https://git.devuan.org/farmatito/migration | 03:06 |
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