libera/#devuan-dev/ Monday, 2021-09-13

rrqgolinux: if you think stretching an 8:5 aspect image to 16:9 aspect then I can live with that distortion00:25
golinuxrrq: I'm sorry that the wallpaper does not fit well on you monitor.  In the 7 years I've been recoloring hellekin's svgs this is the first complaint.  Since you haven't provided a screenshot, I can't even imagine what you are seeing.  I could try exporting to pixel dimensions of your choosing if you had provided them. Sadly, I do not have any svg skills.  I only change the colors in the text document so if you want it corrected , you'll hav00:36
golinuxe to find someone else to do it.00:36
rrqmy most common pixel grid is 1920 x 1080 ..00:47
golinuxI'll play with it00:59
golinuxThat is very close to 1920x1200 which is my display setting01:04
rrqmine is the 16:9 aspect, yours is the 16:10 aspect; "close" is near perfect ;)01:10
golinuxIt should work for you.  Will play with it later.01:27
golinuxCarob brownies just out of the oven and tea steeped.01:27
rrqwhat? edibles take precedence over horrible eye-candy?01:43
rrq(and we haven't even discussed the outragous miscoloring of the last "y")01:45
fsmithredshhhh!01:48
XenguyWhy? Y?!?02:32
golinuxThe outrageous "y" will be corrected in Documents but sadly not in the package. Package master strike.03:41
golinuxXenguy: Read the last meet notes.03:41
XenguyOh no, please not that, anything...03:43
Xenguy8 -D03:43
golinuxYou will find the explanation there03:44
XenguyThanks kindly03:44
golinuxrrq: As per your request.  https://transfer.sh/3yD2U5/1920x1080.png  I don't see a problem with that04:09
golinuxIt even looks acceptable stretched on 1920 x 1200.  Have it on my desktop now04:11
golinuxAnyway, enjoy04:12
golinuxActually, I want to try another way that you might like better04:12
masongolinux: It looks nice.04:15
golinuxDid you read the scrollback?04:22
golinuxThanks.  rrq may object (which is his right).04:22
masongolinux: A bit of it. 1080 vs 120004:25
masonand something about a funny y04:26
golinuxRead the meet notes04:27
XenguyOh no please, anything but that04:28
golinuxrrq: actually this one stretched looks better https://transfer.sh/faCysA/1728x1080.png04:37
* golinux wonders why rrq isn't voiced in the channel . . .04:38
golinuxafk04:42
bb|hcbAbout eudev, on #devuan-eudev there is an announcement about the effor - https://pad.dyne.org/pad/#/2/pad/edit/ngCNROttei-mn3BnW3O1KHdG/05:41
bb|hcbBesides finalizing the wording, we need to decide where it will be a good idea to post that; and who will post it05:42
golinuxYou had some good suggestions posted there.  Whoever posts it should be knowledgeable about eudev.  That's not me.05:48
bb|hcbAs I said before, I lack the native english skill; and I will enter the discussion as needed :)05:52
golinuxYour original would have been fine.  Both Xenguy and I offered more native suggestions so pick what suits you and post it wherever appropriate..  Perhaps someone will offer suggestion for that.05:55
bb|hcbOK, let's do that in the proper order - 1st lets agree on a list of comm channels where to post and proceed afterwards05:56
golinuxBTW neither Xenguy nor I touched your original draft.05:59
golinuxIf it was altered look elsewhere . . .06:00
bb|hcbI would assume someone was learning how to use the pads :)06:04
bb|hcbAnyways - history is there and I got the unwanted changes reverted06:05
bgstack15For the first time in... apparently 3 months, I'm updating xrdp to the latest version that is in Debian.16:23
bgstack15I have this error when doing my test build (before sending it to Jenkins): dpkg-deb: error: conffile '/etc/pam.d/xrdp-sesman' is present but is requested to be removed16:24
bgstack15I don't know what that means in this case; how do I fix that?16:24
fsmithredbgstack15, look in the pre/post install scripts in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ for clues.16:31
LeePenbgstack15: It is caused by the new debhelper (13.5) which rewrites rm_conffiiles in d/*.maintscript to the new remove-on-upgrade `feature`.16:33
LeePenIMO, it is a pain at the moment and has made a whole bunch of packages FTBFS.16:33
bgstack15I swear, debhelper has taken a turn for the worse in the past ~1.5 years...16:33
LeePenhttps://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/d/debhelper/changelog-13.5.116:33
LeePenThe fix is either to wait for Debian to fix it (which they will have to),16:34
LeePenor to fiddle with d/xrdp.maintscript16:34
bgstack15I tolerated the recent change where they now all of a sudden want absolute paths in d/conffiles.16:34
LeePenLine 2 is probably the one that is causing the error.16:35
bgstack15That was mildly amusing, to just add the preceding slash. But kind of a waste.16:35
LeePenWe had this with the new eudev build last week.16:35
LeePenSigh!16:35
bgstack15Thank you! Yeah, up until a few days ago I had pinned dpkg-dev=1.19.7 (as opposed to the current 1.20.x).16:36
bgstack15Because I've been so slack on updating xrdp, I will go ahead and take some steps that are within my realm of ability, even if that means it diverges from the Debian packaging for no other reason.16:37
LeePenEven if you still had that pinned on your box, the jenkins build would probably have failed in the same way.16:38
LeePenOK16:38
bgstack15yeah, I had to add some "dh $@ --without autoreconf" recently to mozilla-based dpkgs (personal stuff) because autoreconf does bizarre stuff.16:39
LeePenAll this is why we really need chimaera released soon.16:40
LeePenUnstable is now very-unstable as new things get merged and it makes building reliably more difficult.16:41
LeePenAnyway, rant over. HTH16:41
fsmithredis there anything left to be built for chimaera?16:43
LeePengnu_srs1: I got the i386, amd64 and ppc64el eudev builds into chimaera, so the new iso build at 1500Z should pick them up.16:43
LeePenNo response from jaromil over the Dyne's arm* builder.16:44
LeePenfsmithred: Just the arm* eudev AFAIK16:44
fsmithredcool. Then it's just release notes and such.16:44
LeePenAnd, I suppose that shouldn't hold up the release as there are no arm isos.16:45
fsmithredoh yeah16:45
LeePen(also provided we haven't broken something!)16:45
bgstack15Yeah, LeePen, the info was very useful! I'm glad I asked here.16:48
bgstack15LeePen, did I do something wrong with my xrdp build request? The devuan-package-builder is still running, from 3.5 hours ago, for the xrdp package. I'm guessing the package doesn't build on ppc64el, which I cannot support...20:23
bgstack15https://jenkins.devuan.dev/job/devuan-package-builder/20:23
LeePenNope, Dyne's arm* builder is offline, so jenkins is waiting for it to become available again.20:24
bgstack15Ah, OK. Thanks.20:31

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