libera/#devuan-dev/ Tuesday, 2022-01-04

bgstack15Have I sent out the meeting notes for this past week's Devuan meet?19:34
rrqfsmithred: re bug #648; should that be assigned to the encryption setup package(s) rather than installer?21:46
fsmithredrrq, I don't know21:55
fsmithredI saved the logs, but I haven't looked at them yet.21:55
fsmithredPackage cryptsetup-initramfs is not available, but is referred to by another package.21:57
fsmithredthis was a netinstall21:58
rrqhmm so where is cryptsetup-initramfs from then?22:52
rrqit's needed in the installed system isn't it22:54
rrqaiui you fixed things by installing packages into the installed system since for some reasons those didn;t get installed when the installer installed packages?23:04
fsmithredyes, cryptsetup-initramfs is in the repo. I don't know why the installer couldn't find it.23:28
rrqmmm cryptsetup-initramfs is recommended by cryptsetup so should be brought in by installing that..23:39
rrqmaybe its udeb component pulls in cryptsetup for encrypted disk already for the base system install? which would the require the tag-along pool already for netinstall need to also hold cryptsetup-initramfs23:41
rrq(there might be an english sentence alike that one)23:42
fsmithredI'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't understand that23:43
rrqyeah; the installer must have some "crypt ability" so it can offer the choice of installing onto an encrypted target, and it doesn't really need to have the software that that target needs in its boot up software, especially not the software used in the target for remaking the ability to boot23:49
rrqbut, i guess, there is some thinking going around that the base system of even the netinstall; i.e., the system you get without having a network, should be feature complete also with respect to remaking its initrd ...23:53
fsmithreddo you want to see the syslog?23:54
fsmithredit's weird that it tried to install cryptsetup-initramfs but couldn't find it.23:54
fsmithrednormally I'd blame it on a network or mirror glitch and just try again, but I'm confirming someone else's discovery.23:55
rrqnot really; I'm just pondering ... in short, cryptsetup-initramfs must be in the on-iso package pool so all that encryption stuff is feature complete on a netinstall without network.23:55
rrq.. including the ability to remake the initrd23:56
fsmithredno cryptsetup-initramfs deb in the iso.23:57
fsmithredthere's a cryptsetup udeb, cryptsetup deb, cryptsetup-bin and libcryptsetup debs.23:58
fsmithredcryptsetup suggests cryptsetup-initramfs.23:59
rrqno it's not on the netinstall as the software is not actually needed for installing the OS from the network; but the way it set up, nothing will ask it to be installed from the network; it's attempted to be installed for the base system, and then forgotten about.23:59

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