libera/#devuan-dev/ Sunday, 2022-04-03

LeePenonefang: I am currently rebuilding all the ceres packages with Build-Depends: systemd against the new dummy-systemd-dev package to see how many it fixes.15:05
LeePenwireguard builds OK!15:05
onefangCool.15:23
onefangNow I can sleep.  B-)15:24
Unit193wireguard (and some others) only use systemd to find out where to install systemd units.  The only systemd thing there is the wg-quick@.service template service and .target.  On non-systemd systems, I guess one would use NM or ifupdown, whichever you're otherwise using (But IMO NM managing that is subpar. :P)18:47
LeePenUnit193: Thanks. Yes, that is why the new dummy-systemd-dev fixes most cases.18:59
Unit193Some things would be a little neutered, not sure if eg netplan.io, pipewire, wireplumber have other methods of starting.19:05
Unit193Anywho...19:06
LeePenI am test building tehm all at the moment to find the ones that are still not fixed.19:06
Unit193Yeah, though "it builds" is a bit lower of a bar than "it works", as I'm sure you know.19:08
LeePen:)19:09
LeePenIf it doesn't build, it definitely doesn't work!19:09
Unit193Hah, it looks as if pipey is specifically mentioned in the backlog.  I guess something might have to be written for those type of things to actually start.19:14
bb|hcbI am using pipewire (with pasystray) on one desktop and it definitely needs manual start apart from sd...20:04
bgstack15if anyone cares, I use a wireguard init script I found on the Internet somewhere (probably github). Perhaps we could bundle that into a wireguard package, if we rebuild it for Devuan?22:26
fsmithredif wireguard dropped the init script, it should probably be added to the orphan-sysvinit-scripts package22:38

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