onefang | Poettering has left Red Hat, and joined Microsoft, to keep working on systemd. I actually laughed out loud. | 03:47 |
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golinux | I suspect he's been working for MS all along as a trojan to windozie linux | 03:51 |
Xenguy | Who knows? What an idiot, in any case | 04:40 |
bgstack15 | I hadn't gotten that far yet. He really went to M$?! | 04:42 |
Xenguy | Apparently | 04:44 |
Xenguy | There was a guy back in the day who was very central to the early GNOME project | 04:44 |
Xenguy | I don't actually recall his name anymore, but the same thing happened with him... | 04:45 |
Xenguy | A lot of linux folks kind of looked at him askance... | 04:45 |
Xenguy | And then he eventually got hired on at M$ | 04:45 |
bgstack15 | Miguel de Icaza or similar? | 04:46 |
Xenguy | I think in both cases, the developers were secret (or not) admirers of Apple and M$... | 04:46 |
Xenguy | That's the guy | 04:46 |
Xenguy | And had kind of tried to emulate those Apple/M$ ideas, but in the Linux space, with mixed reviews... | 04:47 |
Xenguy | But where they ended up being employed, kind of showed who they really were in the end | 04:47 |
bgstack15 | That makes sense. | 04:47 |
bgstack15 | Maybe now in a big corp Poettering's ideas (good [if any] and bad) will get stopped by stupid corporate BS that stops all things from being built. | 04:48 |
Xenguy | Time will tell, he's a bit of a star apparently, and probably just received a raise | 04:49 |
onefang | https://linux.slashdot.org/story/22/07/06/2348255/systemd-creator-lands-at-microsoft mentions some other people in the past whe did similar. | 06:42 |
bgstack15 | I need to promote systemctl-service-shim 0.0.2 into Chimaera. It sounds like based on https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/maintainers/PackagingGuide.md | 17:14 |
bgstack15 | that I need to push a new commit with d/gbp.conf has "debian-branch = suites/chimaera" in it, and then build it. Will that just automagically work? | 17:15 |
Xenguy | (IIRC LeePen is AFK until the weekend, FWIW) | 17:27 |
bgstack15 | Thanks. | 17:28 |
bgstack15 | Which reminds me, today is the Devuan Meet at 20:30 UTC! | 17:31 |
bgstack15 | Pad is here: https://pad.dyne.org/code/#/2/code/edit/kGvkVBAQTz91auW4UxTOd2pI/ | 17:31 |
bb|hcb | bgstack15: yep, but version should not be 0.0.2-1, because that will break the upgrade path. I am not sure about Devuan's backport versioning, if we follow what Debian does, a 0.0.1~bpo11+1 will work | 23:19 |
bb|hcb | typo, 0.0.2~bpo11+1 | 23:20 |
bb|hcb | After that builds, britney should be instructed manually to include it in chimaera | 23:21 |
jjakob | do you plan on creating the symlink in postinst? that would require a new release | 23:23 |
bgstack15 | Nope, it is done dynamically inside the script itself. | 23:27 |
jjakob | there is no /bin/systemctl and it's not created by the script | 23:27 |
bgstack15 | The reason is rather complicated, and deals with infinite recursion within certain other scripts outside my control that react differently if they're coming from a /usr/bin/systemctl or /bin/systemctl | 23:28 |
jjakob | it's only deleted and recreated by the script if it already exists and if it's called as /bin/systemctl (which it can't, as that symlink doesn't exist when first installed) | 23:28 |
Unit193 | bgstack15: Did you see that with libxfce4ui 4.17, nocsd is no longer needed? | 23:29 |
bgstack15 | The exact contents of the package from Ceres should go in Chimaera. | 23:29 |
bgstack15 | Unit193: ah, no I hadn't seen that yet! Is 4.17 new-ish (within the past 2 months)? | 23:29 |
bgstack15 | I am still going to leave all my GTK3_NOCSD=1 and similar settings everywhere. | 23:29 |
jjakob | bgstack15: I understand. that will fix part of the issue, not the entire issue | 23:30 |
Unit193 | bgstack15: libgtk-nocsd would still be needed, libxfce4ui is just Xfce stuff. 4.17 is a dev release, you can tell by the version number, but it's also in Experimental. | 23:31 |
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