libera/#devuan-dev/ Sunday, 2022-09-18

onefangpkgmaster uses an sshguard white list.  I update it when adding a new mirror.06:06
LeePenI have just build init-system-helpers but the with the forced usrmerge reverted.11:33
LeePenUntil we see how this all plays out: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2022/09/msg00195.html11:33
LeePenhttps://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2022/09/msg00200.html11:33
bb|hcbThat does not play out well for now. We can only sit and watch, popcorn anyone?13:49
bgstack15I am amused and a little concerned. It sounds like this is a controversial and more-technically-challenging operation than systemd.14:19
bgstack15I guess in the long run I don't care about usrmerge or not, but I will be extremely dissatisfied if my systems break.14:19
bgstack15And if my /bin/sh shebangs break, I have not yet planned how to limit my reaction.14:20
fsmithred fwiw, I installed ascii when it was still in testing and it was a couple years before I noticed that I had usrmerge. Didn't notice any problems.14:26
onefangUsing usrmerge here, symlinks solve any problems.  /bin -> /usr/bin for example.14:29
bb|hcbThe problem is not with usrmerge itself, but with the way how the transition is done. It is more of a social problem - ignoring others and forcing a solution on everyone, very much like what happened with systemd15:09
fsmithredlive-boot is currently broken  in daedalus/ceres without usrmerge because they hard-coded /usr/bin/mount15:48
joergbb|hcb: exactly16:26
bgstack15It sounds like the social forcing of usrmerge aligns with other recent RHisms...17:17
bb|hcbI think that we are affected by this: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=100042122:17

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