| gnu_srs1 | Still, I'll start working for a devuan-hurd distro. LeePen: WDYT? | 01:31 |
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| brocashelm | is there a chance that usrmerge and usr-is-merged will be blacklisted by devuan? as long as those packages aren't installed the merge won't work? | 02:16 |
| * brocashelm doesn't understand how merging /usr has anything to do with an init helper package | 02:17 | |
| fsmithred | maybe something to do with whether /usr is part of the root (booting) partition or not | 02:21 |
| LeePen | brocashelm: it isn't really abot the usrmerge package it is whethe, in the future, packages built on usrmerged systems will still work on non-usrmerged systems. If incompatible paths become hardcoded, it will be a problem. | 09:25 |
| joerg | the bloatD wants access to *ALL* available cmdline executables right at early boot, aiui. And usr/ is explicitly meant to allow late mounting | 13:03 |
| joerg | probably closely related or same problem http://reisenweber.net/irclogs/libera/_maemo/search?q=optification | 13:07 |
| joerg | >>To boot a system, enough must be present on the root partition to mount other filesystems. This includes utilities, configuration, boot loader information, and other essential start-up data. /usr, /opt, and /var are designed such that they may be located on other partitions or filesystems << https://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#PURPOSE2 bullet1 | 13:15 |
| joerg | btw the maemo auto-optify stuff might be usefull as a template/skeleton for a usrmerge replacement? | 13:26 |
| joerg | it automatically creates symlinks | 13:26 |
| joerg | maybe inspiring: https://web.archive.org/web/20110817091119/http://maemo.gitorious.org/maemo-af/maemo-optify/blobs/master/maemo-optify | 15:05 |
| joerg | also https://web.archive.org/web/20140805220841/https://maemo.gitorious.org/maemo-af/maemo-optify-boottime/source/9ae923228b6f59c6a132ac88e2156f2e6cf37fd7:README seems like a similar problem to usr/ merge | 15:39 |
| joerg | btw there's a copy of most of those in /maemo5/usr/sbin on logbot aka maemo.cloud-7. de | 16:15 |
| joerg | https://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#PURPOSE2 Rationale: >> | 16:46 |
| joerg | The primary concern used to balance these considerations, which favor placing many things on the root filesystem, is the goal of keeping root as small as reasonably possible. For several reasons, it is desirable to keep the root filesystem small: | 16:46 |
| joerg | It is occasionally mounted from very small media. | 16:46 |
| joerg | oops sorry. Failed to edit for merging lines. Anyway the question is if this is still the policy and rationale for devuan. For systemd it been rejected as "obsolete" by LP | 16:51 |
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