libera/#devuan/ Tuesday, 2018-06-05

xrogaanI'm apparently in need of gcc4.8...00:36
gnarfaceto build something ancient from source?00:43
gnarfacei thought 4.9 was the oldest version shipped with jessie00:43
KatolaZxrogaan: are you sure you can't use 4.9?00:52
xrogaan4.8 is hard coded into the project00:53
Digithey, so, this whole scuttlebutt and patchwork stuff... what's the chances of some smarty pants packaging that for devuan?  ~ still trying to determine if it's for real, that it (as promoted to me) fulfills the goals of the eben moglen speach that inspired diaspora, better than diaspora.00:54
KatolaZxrogaan: just un-hard-code it?00:57
KatolaZDigit: o_O00:57
Digitif it helps: eben's diaspora-inspiring talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOEMv0S8AcA a video about scuttlebutt: https://vimeo.com/236358264 n scuttlebutt's site: https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/01:09
Digitand as described to me: £It’s an application that can also run offline, or in a mesh network without internet access. You can write posts and comments offline or in a local network, and things will sync up whenever possible."01:09
MinceR£metoo01:12
KatolaZDigit: like usenet...01:15
KatolaZ:D01:15
Digit...minus the emergent failings of usenet, i presume (from catching conversation on diaspora touching on that already).01:16
DigitMinceR: not used to switching to UK keyboard? ;D  #/£01:28
* Digit realises he himself missed " n got £, oops.01:29
nekoseamwhere can I download Devuan Ceres?01:36
KatolaZnekoseam: nowhere01:38
Digitnot sure.  i got on ceres by just upgrading to it, from whatever it was i started with.01:38
KatolaZyou can upgrade to ceres01:38
KatolaZfrom ascii01:38
nekoseamAh, I see01:38
nekoseamAny plans on eventually shipping a ceres iso?01:39
KatolaZnope01:39
KatolaZnever01:39
KatolaZceres will never have an iso01:39
KatolaZit's unstable01:39
KatolaZlike "sid" in debian01:39
nekoseamHm. Is there at least a testing iso like with Debian?01:40
KatolaZnekoseam: there are ascii images01:40
xrogaanright, replacing g++-4.8 by g++-6 is way easier than trying to compile old tech.02:01
aitorhi14:00
aitorthis weekend i've been working on the repo of gnuinos:14:01
aitorhttp://packages.gnuinos.org/14:01
Digit:)14:10
aitora new kernel linux-libre-4.9.103 has been added, and also runit, vdev, the popupmenu, simple-netaid, yad, the refracta-tools (not the latest one), ffmpeg, gftp...14:11
aitorbe careful replacing udev by vdev, first of all you should replace intitramfs-tools and the best way is to download it and install it via dpkg -i14:15
aitorthe initramfs-tools pulled from gnuinos.org is compatible with both udev and vdev14:16
aitorthe udev package in gnuinos is empty, similar than the udev package built in devuan for ascii, but depending on vdev instead of eudev14:17
aitornow i have to build an image with the live-sdk and test the new kernel 4.9 in live mode; in live mode, higher versions sometimes give the known "ehci-orion not found in modules.dep"14:19
aitorsome changes are in linux-support is needed, due to the lower version of python in jessie, so i need to rebuild it14:24
aitorlinux-support is needed for building linux-latest14:24
Guest89407Minere bitcoin BTC via CPU  https://getcryptotab.com/718967 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luzqQN3kL4g&t=166s17:59
furrywolfgo spam elsehwere17:59
specingone must be a special kind of idiot to mine bitcoin on cpu18:13
muep_someone else's cpu18:15
MinceRor at least someone else's electricity bill18:17
xrogaananybody knows if software run through wine are case sensible? That is, if alike windows the case do not matter.22:44
AlexLikeRocksensible ....  to what ?22:46
AlexLikeRockxrogaan,22:46
xrogaansensitive, sorry22:48
xrogaanusing the bad word will not return results :p22:51
xrogaanI was asking about this https://wiki.winehq.org/Case_Insensitive_Filenames22:52
xrogaanso the answer is "kinda"22:53

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