filipdevuan | im cheating devuan with fedora atm :P | 00:08 |
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filipdevuan | i mean im cheating on devuan | 00:08 |
golinux | filipdevuan: I doubt anybody cares | 00:20 |
filipdevuan | nice | 00:21 |
golinux | Use whatever suits you best. That's what freedom is all about. | 00:24 |
filipdevuan | yeah well im a bit too inexperienced for devuan atm | 00:36 |
NeonLicht | I've upgraded from jessie to ascii on several boxes and I'm very happy with it, exept I have a small problem with uzbl. When I run it, it works fine, but when I visit certain sites, the fonts in the status bar stop showing, and small rectangles show instead. Any pointers, please? | 00:39 |
msiism | NeonLicht: what's your locale? | 00:43 |
msiism | NeonLicht: does uzbl support unicode? (just as a guess) | 00:44 |
msiism | filipdevuan: where are the blockers? | 00:45 |
filipdevuan | what blockers? | 00:45 |
NeonLicht | msiism, es_ES, but it does the same when I run it like that: LANG=C uzbl-browser. | 00:46 |
msiism | NeonLicht: ok, you'd probably have to talk to the uzbl devs then and probably provide a screenshot. | 00:49 |
msiism | filipdevuan: the things blocking you from using devuan? | 00:49 |
NeonLicht | I guess, msiism. I'm on #uzbl, too, but I thought I'd ask here in case somebody else had the same problem. | 00:50 |
aaro | NeonLicht: try the utf8 of your language | 00:50 |
filipdevuan | its optimus card drivers nvidia and intel | 00:51 |
NeonLicht | That's what I use, aaro, UTF for Spanish. | 00:51 |
aaro | NeonLicht: es_ES.utf8 | 00:52 |
filipdevuan | i managed to get them working properly with xrogaan but anyway i wanted to run windows games so thanks to him i managed to get diablo 2 and tes oblivion work properly. but then i downloaded newer drivers for diablo 3 and diablo 2 stopped working and oblivion | 00:52 |
filipdevuan | so i was a bit frustrated i did fresh reinstallation and now nothing works at all and i havent got mental strentgh to configue everything again because im too dumb simply dont know how | 00:53 |
msiism | filipdevuan: ok, you just lost me. (with your previous post) | 00:53 |
filipdevuan | yeah xD | 00:55 |
NeonLicht | Yes, aaro, that's what I use. | 00:55 |
xrogaan | msiism: it's not devuan in particular | 00:55 |
gnarface | filipdevuan: remember when i told you that you should have made a backup first? | 00:55 |
filipdevuan | now on fedora diablo 2 doesnt work as well but im not deleting it | 00:55 |
xrogaan | it's just the new environment. | 00:55 |
filipdevuan | on windows 10 diablo 2 doesnt work as well | 00:55 |
xrogaan | gnarface: from what I gather, I don't believe he has the disk space for backups. | 00:55 |
filipdevuan | i mean i can run diablo 2 now but when i wanna play online it crashes i give up with windows games... i discovered platform called itch.io its something like steam but indie games | 00:55 |
filipdevuan | im on it now | 00:55 |
msiism | filipdevuan: do you know you can dual-boot different operating systems? | 00:55 |
gnarface | xrogaan: he's got the disk space for a package list and a tarball of his /etc directory | 00:55 |
filipdevuan | yeah of course i do know | 00:55 |
filipdevuan | i dont remember how i configured everything so everything worked i should have noted everything, maybe next time | 00:55 |
msiism | filipdevuan: why not try it? it give you the opportunity to run devuan, but go back to whatever for things that, atm, work "better" there. | 00:56 |
filipdevuan | i got into devuan because i cared about privacy but now i dont care im fed up with privacy i just wanna have fun now | 00:56 |
gnarface | filipdevuan: once you know which config files to back up you don't really have to remember everything | 00:56 |
xrogaan | I'm not even sure he has to change anything. | 00:57 |
filipdevuan | i had windows 10 once and then installed fedora but then couldnt detect win10 but anyway i should just get pc with single gpu for devuan if i had cash id already do it but havent got any spare change hahah :P | 00:57 |
xrogaan | he install the non-free firmwares, bumbleThing and there you go. | 00:57 |
msiism | filipdevuan: is there any university in your area? | 00:57 |
filipdevuan | xrogaan: now i only seen legacy drivers 340 on synaptic couldnt find normal ones 370 on there | 00:57 |
filipdevuan | yeah i think so theres a college | 00:58 |
xrogaan | filipdevuan: check if your source list non-free repo. I believe it is basic by default. | 00:58 |
filipdevuan | yeah it is | 00:58 |
xrogaan | Also, how old are you? Don't go alone if you're underage. | 00:59 |
msiism | filipdevuan: well, if they have an it department, find it and ask them, if they are throwing anything out. big institutions do that regularly. (i know that, because i tend to use that stuff.) | 00:59 |
filipdevuan | yeah they do | 00:59 |
filipdevuan | well i can always ask an e-mail | 00:59 |
filipdevuan | send an e-mail* | 00:59 |
msiism | right | 00:59 |
filipdevuan | i mean they do have it department there :P | 00:59 |
filipdevuan | im 23 years old im too shy to go to college and say: give me pc now lol | 01:00 |
filipdevuan | i have old pc but i installed windows xp put into hibernate twice now my pc wont display on the screen anymore :/ | 01:00 |
xrogaan | filipdevuan: nvidia-driver-bin? | 01:01 |
filipdevuan | using this laptop doesnt make any sense anyway, normal pc would be much better | 01:01 |
xrogaan | category: non-free/x11 | 01:01 |
filipdevuan | xrogaan: sorry im not on devuan now im running fedora 28 atm ;/ | 01:01 |
xrogaan | a lot of linux is just looking around and reading stuff. | 01:01 |
xrogaan | oh, well, ask fedora people then :) | 01:01 |
filipdevuan | ask about what? :P | 01:02 |
msiism | filipdevuan: so what about that "broken" machine? is it a hardware issue or not? | 01:02 |
gnarface | filipdevuan: i'm guessing you're chasing a package/driver version problem when you should be focusing harder on winecfg and winetricks | 01:02 |
filipdevuan | msiism: i believe its a hardware, basically i got my pc into hibernate or suspend while using windows xp but i bought this pc preowned with ubuntu for 25 pounds on ebay | 01:03 |
filipdevuan | at once i heard some beeps but second time it hibernated it beepd again and now it doesnt even beep just display doesnt detect it anymore | 01:03 |
xrogaan | A 25 pounds computer doesn't boot anymore, big surprise. | 01:04 |
filipdevuan | gnarface: yeah probably you're right, but xrogaan helped me to configure everything properly before now i dont remember what iv done aparat from downloading bumblebee and linux-firmware | 01:04 |
filipdevuan | hahah, yeah ;P. | 01:04 |
filipdevuan | it should work anyway windows xp killed it. it has 2gb ram and it was alright | 01:04 |
msiism | filipdevuan: well, as long as it still beeps... | 01:04 |
filipdevuan | not anymore... | 01:05 |
xrogaan | it's probably all you need to do, filipdevuan, download bumblebee and linux-firmware. What we did was mostly diagnostics. | 01:05 |
filipdevuan | yeah well | 01:06 |
filipdevuan | but now im gonna make proper partitions, can i just delete all partitions during installation and then set one up just for OS and rest for media?? | 01:06 |
msiism | filipdevuan: you can do that (whatever "media" means...). but: | 01:07 |
msiism | filipdevuan: you should probably first read a bit about what partitions schemes make good sense. | 01:08 |
filipdevuan | yeah like instead of installing everything on one partition i mean just to have two partitions one for OS and rest for stuff like pictures music etc. | 01:08 |
msiism | filipdevuan: ok, do you sort of a picture of what the linux filesystem looks like? | 01:09 |
filipdevuan | well yeah it is different than windows. and iv been thinking about that today cuz i dont know how it looks like. would the first partition be home and the second one home 2 or i dont really know ;PP | 01:10 |
msiism | filipdevuan: you need to read about that first and know that structure, at least have a basic idea. | 01:10 |
filipdevuan | yeah | 01:10 |
msiism | http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/chap_03.html | 01:11 |
msiism | filipdevuan: could as well start with chapter 1 then, i guess. | 01:12 |
filipdevuan | yeah im reading now ;p | 01:12 |
msiism | ok, i gotta go | 01:13 |
filipdevuan | yeah thanks ;) | 01:20 |
filipdevuan | im going as well in a minute | 01:21 |
xrogaan | which one is better, info or texinfo? | 05:27 |
NewGnuGuy | xrogaan: I believe info is the viewer program and texinfo is the format. | 05:29 |
NewGnuGuy | xrogaan: If you want the viewer, install the info package. | 05:30 |
xrogaan | right | 05:31 |
xrogaan | trying to find out which key on my keyboard is equivalent to \e[2~ | 05:31 |
xrogaan | I did it by mistake, can't find it back again. | 05:32 |
xrogaan | it's the quote-insert in inputirc | 05:32 |
xrogaan | inputrc* | 05:32 |
xrogaan | this emacs thing is nonsense. | 05:35 |
xrogaan | I'm probably wrong, quote insert doesn't do what I think it does. | 05:36 |
gnarface | what are you actually trying to do? | 05:38 |
xrogaan | insert escaped quotes \"\" | 05:38 |
xrogaan | I'm not sure if it is something I did though. | 05:39 |
gnarface | hmm. doesn't seem difficult, but i can't tell you off the top of my head. in the same situation i'd use the query-replace-regexp feature (regular expression search&replace) | 05:39 |
gnarface | i'd use that to escape the quotes on a second pass | 05:40 |
gnarface | that's in theory (in actuality this is a job for the database client to handle) | 05:40 |
gnarface | but i've done similar types of search&replace as well as more complex ones that way | 05:41 |
gnarface | but for example if you're just doing this to sanitize the data before stuffing it into a database with php you should be using mysql_real_escape_string() | 05:43 |
xrogaan | no, I mean, in a bash input | 05:43 |
xrogaan | bash shell? | 05:43 |
gnarface | yea | 05:43 |
gnarface | emacs kinda has it's own flavor of regexp and it's a little extra wordy but it gets the job done | 05:43 |
xrogaan | I hit some combination of keys and my " transformed into \" | 05:44 |
xrogaan | probably not what happened | 05:45 |
xrogaan | because I can't find a feature that would do that. | 05:45 |
Tashtari | Hey all. Hopefully this question isn't too over-common, but I'm curious. What is the difference between devuan and debian with an apt rule that prohibits the installation of systemd? (And systemd uninstalled in favor of sysvinit) | 06:28 |
xrogaan | some packages needs to be redone to properly remove systemd dependencies. | 06:29 |
Tashtari | xrogaan: What's an example of such a package? | 06:30 |
furrywolf | on debian, if you prevent the installation of systemd, a couple hundred packages either won't install or won't function. | 06:30 |
furrywolf | gnome is one of the big ones, xfce,... | 06:30 |
Tashtari | xfce, really? Huh. | 06:31 |
xrogaan | Devuan makes extra sure your system will function without systemd. You can do it yourself, but that's IMHO extra (and unnecessary) work. | 06:31 |
furrywolf | to fix this, devuan devs rebuild them without systemd requirements, which can be as easy as a couple configure flags, or major patching. | 06:32 |
furrywolf | if I remember right, xfce will install without systemd, but you'll have no power management and some other stuff breaks. I don't remember the exact issues with it. gnome is uninstallable. | 06:32 |
Tashtari | Gnome I expected... that seems to be the major thing in bed with systemd. | 06:33 |
furrywolf | devuan also has to maintain packages that debian has stopped maintaining because systemd provides replacement functionality. I can't remember which ones offhand, though. | 06:35 |
Tashtari | I see. All right, thanks, everyone. :) | 06:36 |
Tashtari | It'd be neat to see this question added to an FAQ of some kind... that is, if it hasn't already. | 06:36 |
furrywolf | https://devuan.org/os/packages/list/forked-from-debian | 06:37 |
furrywolf | that's an old list, I think... that is, I don't think it's generated off the current version. | 06:37 |
furrywolf | yes, it's horribly out of date. | 06:38 |
furrywolf | and I can't figure out how to get a list of devuan-patched stuff from the new verison. oh well. | 06:38 |
furrywolf | bbl, time for me to get to bed | 06:40 |
* furrywolf curls up on golinux's feet | 06:40 | |
Tashtari | Thanks for the information. | 06:40 |
golinux | Tashtari: http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt | 06:42 |
KatolaZ | furrywolf: pkginfo.devuan.org | 06:43 |
KatolaZ | search for "+devuan" | 06:43 |
KatolaZ | you'll get the list you are looking for | 06:43 |
golinux | That too. Was coming up next | 06:44 |
Tashtari | Ah, much better.. | 06:44 |
hoshineko | hello | 07:28 |
hoshineko | does devuan come with nonfree firmware? | 07:28 |
KatolaZ | hoshineko: Devuan install media contain non-free firmware | 07:30 |
KatolaZ | but it's installed only if your wifi card needs it | 07:30 |
KatolaZ | (obviously) | 07:30 |
hoshineko | I see, that's good | 07:30 |
hoshineko | also, this is not strictly devuan-related, but is there a way I can modify the steps in the the installer?, there's a specific point where the debian installer hangs on my machine so i always have to skip the "select and install software" step | 07:34 |
hoshineko | though i can just run tasksel later anyways | 07:35 |
KatolaZ | hoshineko: you can use the expert install | 07:36 |
KatolaZ | (the short answer is: no, you can't modify the steps that are taken by the standard installer without rebuilding the corresponsing d-i components, and d-i) | 07:37 |
hotaronohanako | hi guys | 07:55 |
xHire | hi, I’m trying out ascii on a raspberry pi. I really like the system so far. :c) however, even when there is no load (i.e., clean system), the board heats quite a lot (thermal_zone0 currently says 57 °C) – I tested it without SD card for comparison (i.e., nothing booted) and it was cold. has anyone heard about issues like this by any chance? | 08:42 |
golinux | xHire: Try #devuab-arm | 09:25 |
xHire | golinux: thanks, will try! :c) | 09:25 |
golinux | devuan of course | 09:25 |
golinux | typo | 09:25 |
longwayfromhome | hello | 10:04 |
filipdevuan | so i had fedora for a bit i looked up system monitor 55% memory ram used while nothing was on compared to devuan that uses 12% | 14:00 |
filipdevuan | yeah so bumblebee and linux-firmware and everything is perfect, iv been thinking about starting my own website about linux gaming for a while | 14:05 |
gnarface | that's on ceres, filipdevuan? | 14:12 |
gnarface | or ascii? | 14:12 |
gnarface | or redhat? :-p | 14:13 |
filipdevuan | redhat fedora | 14:13 |
gnarface | did you check to see if the same works on ceres? | 14:13 |
filipdevuan | whats ceres? :P | 14:13 |
gnarface | devuan unstable | 14:15 |
gnarface | well, corresponding to debian sid anyway | 14:16 |
filipdevuan | nah i use normal ascii its stretch i think | 14:16 |
gnarface | yea ascii corresponds to stretch | 14:16 |
filipdevuan | yeah im happy now :) | 14:17 |
gnarface | but my experience with gaming on linux using nvidia cards was that sid and ceres improved compatibility | 14:17 |
filipdevuan | ditching windows gaming for linux gaming ;P | 14:17 |
filipdevuan | really | 14:18 |
gnarface | if you check the versions of what redhat is using against ascii and ceres you might see the culprit | 14:18 |
filipdevuan | why u mention redhat | 14:18 |
gnarface | something older in ascii, may matter | 14:18 |
gnarface | it doesn't matter | 14:18 |
gnarface | what matters is you're happy | 14:19 |
filipdevuan | yeah i had fedora yesterday i was happy and then i checked system monitor while no app was running | 14:19 |
filipdevuan | 55% memory ram used and i thought omg it has to be a joke it's like on windows!! | 14:19 |
filipdevuan | on dvuan i have few apps opened and browser and its just 26% | 14:19 |
filipdevuan | yeah i wanna try something new this is why i wanna start discover unknown on linux ;P | 14:20 |
gnarface | you check out steam on it yet? | 14:20 |
gnarface | there's a summer sale going | 14:20 |
gnarface | lots of native games on sale for super cheap | 14:21 |
filipdevuan | im poor ;D | 14:21 |
filipdevuan | i am on itch.io now | 14:21 |
gnarface | oh, right, sorry | 14:21 |
gnarface | oh, but there is free-to-play stuff on steam too | 14:21 |
gnarface | some of it actually good | 14:21 |
filipdevuan | was thinking about installing dota 2 on steam but i dont trust steam so i wonder if its really worth it... | 14:21 |
filipdevuan | iv just tried two games on itch that use unity engine | 14:21 |
filipdevuan | remind me of minecraft its quite cool | 14:22 |
filipdevuan | i play some survival game where i am a viking in the forest and build everything from scratch like on minecraft, ill test more later now im meeting my friend in a minute gosh ;P | 14:22 |
filipdevuan | itch is like steam but for indie games | 14:22 |
filipdevuan | you know i feel like creating my own website about linux gaming and while i dont like steam i dont think writing about games that r available on steam is a good idea | 14:23 |
xHire | the viking game sounds a bit like https://www.onehouronelife.com/ | 14:28 |
filipdevuan | the funny thing is that i have got friends who play games all the time on windows anyway they use steam but funny fact is they hate gabe newell from valve and i found it funny i was like you know i dont really like steam and they were like yeah this gebe is a wanker and steam games arent worth anything | 14:32 |
filipdevuan | i was like oh so im not the only one who dislike steam | 14:32 |
xHire | I’m not really into supporting proprietary games so I ignore steam anyway ;c) | 14:33 |
filipdevuan | yeah, i think you know steam is great and steam games are fun but i always feel like instead of spending my time playing games on steam all the time id rather develop software LOL | 14:34 |
xHire | yes, that’s what I do ^_^ (that’s the only reason I didn’t buy OHOL, because that would motivate me to play it :-D) | 14:35 |
filipdevuan | i dont like to pay real money for digital stuff digital games digital software digital everything and its all digital because of steam nowadays ;/ | 14:37 |
filipdevuan | ohol looks interesting | 14:38 |
xHire | then get OHOL from github and compile it yourself. but you won’t be able to connect to the official server so you’ll need to run your own, where you’ll be the only player… | 14:39 |
filipdevuan | yeah i may do ;P | 14:46 |
grillon | hi there | 15:08 |
grillon | my X server works without DM but I don't know why. I have changed too much things :-/ | 15:10 |
grillon | so I cannot return the info back sorry | 15:10 |
KatolaZ | grillon: it's in the release notes :) | 15:21 |
M0E-lnx | anyone know of a howto for libdevuansdk? | 16:50 |
KatolaZ | M0E-lnx: there is some minimal doc in the repo | 17:15 |
KatolaZ | M0E-lnx: what do you need in particular? | 17:15 |
M0E-lnx | KatolaZ, i was looking for general information on how to use it | 17:18 |
M0E-lnx | there is not much docs on that | 17:18 |
M0E-lnx | i'm reading the code to try to figure out what it does | 17:18 |
KatolaZ | M0E-lnx: normally you won't use it directly | 17:19 |
KatolaZ | rather through live-sdk | 17:19 |
KatolaZ | or virtual-sdk | 17:19 |
KatolaZ | or arm-sdk | 17:19 |
M0E-lnx | I'm trying to re-pack my current install + config into an iso that I can re-deploy on another box | 17:19 |
M0E-lnx | so am I looking at the wrong tool for that then? | 17:19 |
KatolaZ | then you might want to have a look at virtual-sdk maybe | 17:20 |
KatolaZ | which has stuff ready for that | 17:20 |
KatolaZ | or live-sdk, if you need a live | 17:20 |
KatolaZ | libdevuansdk is pretty low-level stuff | 17:20 |
KatolaZ | those *-sdk provide a higher-level interface | 17:21 |
M0E-lnx | ok | 17:21 |
M0E-lnx | let me look at that | 17:21 |
KatolaZ | ok | 17:21 |
KatolaZ | shout if you need help | 17:21 |
M0E-lnx | will do.. ty | 17:22 |
KatolaZ | np | 17:24 |
fsmithred | repack current install sounds like a job for refractasnapshot | 17:26 |
fsmithred | M0E-lnx, ^^^ | 17:26 |
M0E-lnx | fsmithred, is that included in the devuan iso or an extra project? | 17:30 |
M0E-lnx | i'm new to devuan btw | 17:30 |
M0E-lnx | in case you can't tell yet | 17:30 |
M0E-lnx | lol | 17:30 |
KatolaZ | M0E-lnx: refractasnapshot is in Devuan's repos | 17:31 |
M0E-lnx | ok lemme check that out | 17:31 |
KatolaZ | but that's mainly to create a live-cd | 17:31 |
M0E-lnx | I did start with ascii minimal live and used refractainstaller | 17:31 |
KatolaZ | from a runing system | 17:32 |
KatolaZ | oh | 17:32 |
KatolaZ | and it worked fine? | 17:32 |
M0E-lnx | yes | 17:32 |
KatolaZ | very good :) | 17:32 |
M0E-lnx | I added packages to bring it to my liking and now want to pack it all up and re-deploy it | 17:32 |
KatolaZ | if by re-deploy ypu mean having a live system that you can install with refractainstaller, then use refractasnapshot | 17:33 |
M0E-lnx | ok | 17:34 |
fsmithred | back | 17:38 |
M0E-lnx | wb | 17:38 |
fsmithred | KatolaZ, is refractasnapshot-base installed in minimal-live? | 17:38 |
M0E-lnx | what is the difference from installing from refractainstaller vs clicking the icon on the desktop and following the prompts? | 17:39 |
fsmithred | desktop? | 17:40 |
KatolaZ | yep | 17:40 |
M0E-lnx | sort of like the ubuntus/debians do | 17:40 |
M0E-lnx | so, refracta is the TUI installer? | 17:40 |
KatolaZ | no M0E-lnx | 17:40 |
fsmithred | if you added a desktop and install refractainstaller-gui, then you can run a graphical version | 17:40 |
KatolaZ | the install images have the standard debian installer | 17:40 |
KatolaZ | slightly adaped by Devuan | 17:40 |
KatolaZ | live images use refractainstaller | 17:41 |
M0E-lnx | got ya | 17:41 |
KatolaZ | fsmithred: yes, refractasnapshot-base in in minimal-live | 17:42 |
KatolaZ | has been there since when it was "unofficial" ;) | 17:42 |
fsmithred | thought so. thanks | 17:42 |
KatolaZ | fsmithred, from the README: | 17:43 |
KatolaZ | "5) == Acknowledgements == | 17:43 |
KatolaZ | I thank the refracta team for providing refractasnapshot and | 17:43 |
KatolaZ | refractainstaller. | 17:43 |
KatolaZ | " | 17:43 |
KatolaZ | ;) | 17:43 |
fsmithred | :) | 17:44 |
M0E-lnx | do you guys know if devuan uses a build farm for producing packages? | 17:44 |
KatolaZ | M0E-lnx: what do you mean? | 17:44 |
M0E-lnx | I come from Slack, where everything is build manually | 17:44 |
KatolaZ | ci.devuan.org | 17:44 |
M0E-lnx | I wonder if devuan has an automated build system that accepts build jobs and spits out packages | 17:45 |
KatolaZ | the builds are still issued manually, for convenience | 17:45 |
KatolaZ | yes M0E-lnx | 17:45 |
KatolaZ | this is what ci.devuan.org does | 17:45 |
M0E-lnx | ahh | 17:45 |
M0E-lnx | nice | 17:45 |
M0E-lnx | I have to learn how packaging works for .deb | 17:47 |
KatolaZ | M0E-lnx: is there any package that you need and does not exist as a .deb? | 17:49 |
M0E-lnx | probably not | 17:49 |
M0E-lnx | .deb is pretty extensive | 17:49 |
M0E-lnx | but for like adding my own customizations to an existing package | 17:49 |
M0E-lnx | and things like that | 17:49 |
fsmithred | rebuilding packages for yourself is pretty easy. Sorting through all the documentation is not so easy. | 17:55 |
M0E-lnx | seen that | 17:56 |
M0E-lnx | it's like debian wont tell you how to get something done without giving you the packaging 101 which includes all the details | 17:56 |
M0E-lnx | lol | 17:56 |
fsmithred | yup | 17:56 |
M0E-lnx | which is fine... I'm just used to knocking things out real quick coming from slack | 17:56 |
fsmithred | it's good to have quick-start instructions, too | 17:57 |
M0E-lnx | never really been a ubuntu person, used pure debian before, but not a big fan of systemd | 17:57 |
KatolaZ | M0E-lnx: reality is that the whole packaging pipeline is not that easy to learn | 17:57 |
M0E-lnx | true that | 17:58 |
M0E-lnx | been seeing it for years, never really paid attention to learning it though | 17:58 |
KatolaZ | not impossible, but it requires a bit more effort than writing a port, so to speak | 17:58 |
KatolaZ | once you get it, it's pretty straightforwardd | 17:58 |
KatolaZ | s/d$// | 17:58 |
M0E-lnx | devuan is becoming a new favorite for me, so I guess i'll have to invest the time to dig into it | 17:58 |
M0E-lnx | brb.... lunch time | 17:59 |
fsmithred | lunch? Wow, I'm actually talking to someone in my timezone. | 18:01 |
KatolaZ | see fsmithred | 18:01 |
KatolaZ | you are not alone :D | 18:01 |
fsmithred | lol | 18:01 |
james1138_ | Question. Any suggestions for a system report application that tell what hardware and software such as kernel is in use?? | 18:20 |
ivanshmakov | james1138_: Like $ uname ? | 18:20 |
james1138_ | I would much prefer GUI rather than terminal. | 18:21 |
fsmithred | hwinfo or lshw give a lot of hardware info. If you want graphical, hardinfo | 18:21 |
KatolaZ | uname -a | 18:21 |
KatolaZ | or neofetch | 18:21 |
james1138_ | Hardinfo. I shall look at that. | 18:22 |
fsmithred | shows up in menu as 'system benchmark and profiler' or something like that | 18:22 |
golinux | System Profiler and Benchmark ;) | 18:23 |
fsmithred | thanks, I'm kinda out of it today | 18:24 |
fsmithred | recovering from dental work | 18:24 |
golinux | Ouch. You and Centurion | 18:30 |
james1138_ | HardInfo works Great!! Big thanks Fsmithred!! | 18:33 |
fsmithred | It was International Tooth Week? | 18:38 |
M0E-lnx | fsmithred, US/Central... where you at? | 19:00 |
fsmithred | massachusetts | 19:00 |
fsmithred | you had early lunch | 19:00 |
M0E-lnx | yes... I luch @ 11 | 19:00 |
M0E-lnx | i'm in TX | 19:00 |
fsmithred | not close at all | 19:01 |
M0E-lnx | nep | 19:01 |
M0E-lnx | 's/e/ew/g' | 19:01 |
M0E-lnx | refractasnapshot worked like a charm btw | 19:05 |
M0E-lnx | ty guys | 19:05 |
M0E-lnx | I wonder why this tool is not more obvious on the shipped ISO | 19:05 |
KatolaZ | M0E-lnx: have you read the README? | 19:08 |
KatolaZ | under /root | 19:08 |
KatolaZ | i think refractainstaller and refractasnapshot are mentioned in the live images | 19:08 |
M0E-lnx | I'm sure I have.... that's how I found the refractainstaller | 19:08 |
KatolaZ | oki | 19:09 |
KatolaZ | :) | 19:09 |
KatolaZ | so we should probably put them in a more prominent position | 19:09 |
M0E-lnx | or document them more clearly I guess | 19:12 |
M0E-lnx | or reference them in an INSTALL.TXT file | 19:12 |
M0E-lnx | Do you guys know if FF quantum is in the repos? | 20:03 |
M0E-lnx | apt seems to list esr only | 20:07 |
NewGnuGuy | M0E-lnx: Greetings, fellow Texan! | 21:17 |
NewGnuGuy | Whereabout in our great state do are you? | 21:18 |
M0E-lnx | greetings NewGnuGuy | 21:20 |
M0E-lnx | HOU area | 21:20 |
NewGnuGuy | Cool, I'm up near Dallas | 21:22 |
M0E-lnx | nice | 21:22 |
M0E-lnx | Got a buddy that just moved to Frisco | 21:23 |
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