xrogaan | got some issues with slim+consolekit+mate, all of them vanished onced I migrated to lightdm+elogind | 01:31 |
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golinux | xrogaan: Have you read the release notes? https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/Release_notes.txt | 02:09 |
golinux | Each of the 5 DEs available in Devuan comes with a recommended default | 02:09 |
golinux | combination of login manager (either slim or lightdm) and session | 02:09 |
golinux | management system: | 02:09 |
golinux | - XFCE: slim + consolekit | 02:09 |
golinux | - Cinnamon: lightdm + elogind | 02:09 |
golinux | - KDE: lightdm + elogind | 02:09 |
golinux | - LXQT: lightdm + elogind | 02:09 |
golinux | - MATE: slim + consolekit | 02:09 |
* TheBlueWizard notes the phrase "recommended default combination". Presumably other combinations are possible, but he gets the impression that something can get more hairy....best not to jinx it unless one knows what happens under the hood and acts accordingly | 02:15 | |
golinux | Exactly. | 02:18 |
xrogaan | yes | 03:53 |
xrogaan | slim+consolekit+mate was sort of buggy to me. That's what I said. | 03:54 |
xrogaan | ie. sometimes the system wouldn't shut down because "something" didn't thing it was right for the system to shutdown. | 03:55 |
xrogaan | no right to shutdown, and slim restart. | 03:55 |
xrogaan | I know people had some issue with lightdm/elogind and mate, but for me it's the reverse. | 03:57 |
xrogaan | No idea why. | 03:57 |
MinceR | startx > * | 04:03 |
xrogaan | I have some weird stuff going on with ntp and invoke-rc.d at shutdown too. But there no boot/shutdown log no more? | 04:03 |
xrogaan | basically ntp wants to restart but invoke-rc.d say "yeah, no, we're going down". And that eats some time. | 04:05 |
xrogaan | huh, I don't have any /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d | 04:08 |
xrogaan | is that normal? | 04:08 |
fsmithred | xrogaan, I don't have that, either | 04:18 |
xrogaan | too late for me to search around, I'll try tomorrow. | 04:32 |
TheBlueWizard | just noticed in my Synaptics that 3 packages will be held back, no upgrades...it doesn't show which packages are being held back. How do I fiind out which ones? | 04:38 |
TheBlueWizard | found! just click om "Unchanged", and it shows three packages | 05:07 |
mtnman | elho | 07:24 |
mtnman | elho | 08:40 |
golinux | mtnman: Hi | 08:46 |
mtnman | hey golinux | 08:46 |
golinux | What's up? | 08:48 |
mtnman | do you think it is possible for a beaglebone black powered by a "host" laptop to damage the laptop's ethernet adapter? | 08:48 |
golinux | I don't have any arm devices or lappie so haven't a clue | 08:49 |
mtnman | hah... i thought i was on #beaglebone! | 08:50 |
* mtnman is somewhat confused at the moment | 08:50 | |
Marsanghas | Hi all! I'm a bit confused. (have to warn you, I'm a 1st time Devuan user). | 11:32 |
Marsanghas | On one page ( https://www.devuan.org/os/init-freedom/ ) I read : Devuan uses sysvinit, offers openrc, runit, sinit | 11:33 |
Marsanghas | On another page : By default Devuan ASCII runs sysvinit but openrc is now an option at installation | 11:34 |
Marsanghas | I have not seen any option during installation. And is there any documentation (I've looked) to switch from sysvinit to, say, runit (as I understand it is a dropin replacement) | 11:35 |
KatolaZ | Marsanghas: it's in expert install in ASCII | 11:36 |
KatolaZ | in expert install you can choose to use either sysvinit or openrc | 11:36 |
KatolaZ | by downloading the "choose-init" d-i component | 11:36 |
Marsanghas | Aha! Thanx! | 11:39 |
Marsanghas | I'm encountering something really weird. Not seen this before. This concerns Sublime 3 (build 3176). Installed the .deb through the recommended method. Running it on Devuan ASCII. | 13:01 |
Marsanghas | I have an OpenVPN connection to my server and have made a network drive in my filemanager (Caja, which I also used on Solus linux without a problem) to a samba share. | 13:01 |
Marsanghas | When I have a file there, say, index.html, I rightclick and 'open with' and select sublime. Sublime opens but doesn't fetch the file. Opening the file from within Sublime doesn't work either. | 13:01 |
Marsanghas | I can open the file when I put it on a local drive. I can also open the file from the samba share with other applications. | 13:01 |
Marsanghas | Anybody seen anything like that? And more importantly: solved it? :P | 13:02 |
gnarface | well the network share won't fetch the file | 13:05 |
gnarface | i know that much | 13:05 |
gnarface | i don't know what makes cp better than Sublime... | 13:05 |
KatolaZ | Marsanghas: you should ask the Sublime developers, I guess | 13:06 |
gnarface | maybe there's an option in sublime | 13:06 |
gnarface | do other browsers behave the same? | 13:06 |
gnarface | i assume this is a problem that can be fixed at either end | 13:06 |
gnarface | i think you can make the samba share pre-fetch the files | 13:06 |
gnarface | i don't know how | 13:06 |
gnarface | maybe increase some cache variable and run a `find ./` on it | 13:07 |
gnarface | in theory you could: cat [file] |program | 13:08 |
gnarface | if the program accepted file contents on stdin... | 13:08 |
gnarface | i don't really know how realistic that is to expect of a browser | 13:08 |
gnarface | if it was a video file it would be a different story | 13:09 |
Marsanghas | The weird thing is, I had a similar setup (MATE, Caja, OpenVPN and sublime edito) on Solus and Ubuntu 18.04 and had no problems. I also asked this question at the Sublime Text forum ofcourse. | 13:09 |
gnarface | oh really? | 13:09 |
gnarface | what did sublime say? | 13:09 |
Marsanghas | Nothing yet. | 13:09 |
gnarface | if they say nothing should be different, then check the samba mount options | 13:10 |
Marsanghas | Just thought maybe someone here might have experienced something similar. | 13:10 |
gnarface | was it the same samba host in both cases? | 13:10 |
gnarface | were you dealing with the exact same remote mount point with both installs? | 13:10 |
Marsanghas | Same host. Same share. | 13:10 |
gnarface | hmmm. interesting | 13:10 |
gnarface | my best guess is samba mount option | 13:10 |
Marsanghas | And other editors have no problem opening the file from the share. | 13:10 |
gnarface | yea i wouldn't expect them to | 13:11 |
gnarface | but a browser on the other hand, would expect you to click on a link | 13:11 |
Marsanghas | Sublime is a text editor, not a browser. | 13:12 |
gnarface | oh | 13:12 |
Marsanghas | :) | 13:12 |
gnarface | it's also a text editor | 13:12 |
gnarface | i didn't get that | 13:12 |
Marsanghas | sorry | 13:12 |
gnarface | hmm, well that changes things | 13:12 |
Marsanghas | I have no proxies that could interfere or anything like that | 13:12 |
gnarface | see if you have a man page for mount.smbfs or whatever the other one is... mount.cifs? | 13:15 |
Marsanghas | I'll look into that. | 13:17 |
Marsanghas | thanx for your time. It's weird that one progam has a problem and the other doesn't. | 13:17 |
gnarface | yea, it's weird | 13:18 |
gnarface | but there might be a really simple fix | 13:19 |
KatolaZ | Marsanghas: it's called "bug" :) | 13:19 |
Marsanghas | :) | 13:20 |
DocScrutinizer05 | strace is your friend | 18:37 |
mtnman | good to have a friend | 18:38 |
aitor | hi | 21:52 |
aitor | i'll push the new backend of simple-netaid in a few hours | 21:54 |
aitor | i promisse a good job | 21:56 |
aitor | bbl | 21:58 |
aitor | hi | 23:19 |
aitor | there is an old post in the mailing list talking about how to rewrite the backend of simple-netaid adapting it to renamed network devices | 23:22 |
aitor | the post is dated on 2015! | 23:25 |
nacelle | what part is surprising? | 23:41 |
aitor | i've been looking at the code of the original backend, and it uses variables like ethx, wlanx; there is also a function testing if the name of the network device is valid: | 23:47 |
aitor | int valid_wired_device_name(char * dev); | 23:48 |
aitor | the new backend will give you the names of the devices | 23:48 |
aitor | future versions will support several wired/wireless devices | 23:49 |
aitor | wlan, wwan... | 23:49 |
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