libera/#devuan/ Saturday, 2018-08-25

fsmithred!+dauthor audacity testing00:05
infobotUpdating debian files... please wait.00:05
infobotDebian Author Search of 'audacity' returned no results.00:05
DocScrutinizer05aiui it searches with author name as key?00:08
fsmithredthere's a Maintainer field in the package info00:09
fsmithredno Author00:09
fsmithred!+dmaintainer audacity testing00:09
DocScrutinizer05I wonder if all that stuff is worth it. Do you think it's useful in any way - assuming it could be convinced to work00:10
fsmithredI think people probaby already have ways to get that info00:10
fsmithredsome of it00:10
DocScrutinizer05:nod:00:10
DocScrutinizer05Latest version: 1.5.3 @ https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2241 || SVN: 1.5.4 http://infobot.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/infobot/   - no idea if it's worth having a look and providing patches00:11
DocScrutinizer05prolly there's no command dmaintainer00:13
DocScrutinizer05from !help and !help <command> I gather there's only dauthor, dbugs, ddesc, dfind, dstats00:14
DocScrutinizer05if you spot some more related commands in !help, please let me know00:16
fsmithred!help00:17
DocScrutinizer05you can chat with bot in /query00:17
DocScrutinizer05don't neet attention char ! then00:18
DocScrutinizer05need*00:18
DocScrutinizer05the "+" means "please paste output to channel instead of PM00:18
fsmithredah, ok. thanks.00:18
DocScrutinizer05!query00:20
infobottalk dirty to me! Preferably, do so after you have typed "/query infobot" which should open a new window/tab/whatever with most irc clients. You can talk to me all you like and don't annoy other people with endless queries. Be aware that the stuff you write is logged, so don't get too 1337 :)00:20
andi89gi_Hi guys,  do we take part on meetups, linux days/conferences?00:22
DocScrutinizer05fsmithred: keep in mind that most of devuan related factoids are tagged (like "#devuan systemd") which means you get a response to "!systemd" in this channel (#devuan), but for same response anywhere else - incl queries - you need to ask for "!#devuan systemd"00:24
DocScrutinizer05andi89gi_: I think usually or occasionally "we" do00:28
andi89gi_okay thx for explaining it00:31
DocScrutinizer05andi89gi_: a very short 2explanation". Avery generic question as well00:39
fsmithreddeveloper meetings are posted on devuan-dev mailing list00:40
fsmithredannounced before meeting and notes posted later00:40
DocScrutinizer05oooh, specific devuan meetings. Yes those exists, every week afaik00:40
andi89gi_fsmithred: I have to subscribe in this list00:42
fsmithredyes, if you want to read it. I don't know if it's archived on the web.00:42
andi89gi_fsmithred: yea - I read them. So meetings are posted in the mailing lists?00:44
fsmithredyes00:44
fsmithredpossibly not so regularly in the summer00:44
fsmithredbut generally yes. Also there's usually a pad ahead of time where people can write notes for the meeting00:45
rrqhttps://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devuan-dev00:46
andi89gi_fsmithred: ah okay - yea in other countries - still holidays;00:46
rrq.. has a "Web Archives" link00:47
fsmithredgreat00:47
DocScrutinizer05!#devuan ML is https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devuan-dev00:48
infobot...but #devuan ml is already something else...00:48
DocScrutinizer05!ml00:48
infoboti heard dng is https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng the devuan mailing list00:48
DocScrutinizer05!#devuan ML is also https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devuan-dev00:48
infobotDocScrutinizer05: okay00:48
DocScrutinizer05!ml00:49
infobotit has been said that dng is https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng the devuan mailing list00:49
andi89gi_i have just subscribed into the mailing list00:52
DocScrutinizer05!ml00:52
infoboti guess ml is https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devuan-dev - also see !dng00:52
andi89gi_i have added there in the mail list dng and dev00:59
fsmithredgood places to start01:00
andi89gi_ok cool - i've seen at our  place which files has to rebuilt ; quite a lot ;how exactly can i ssupport the projects or creating new ones?01:03
DocScrutinizer05please rephrase01:12
andi89gi_rephrase? I've just written it01:23
andi89gi_ ok cool - i've seen at our  place which files has to rebuilt ; quite a lot ;how exactly can i ssupport the projects or creating new ones?01:23
fsmithredandi89gi_, hang around for awhile, read the mailing lists, listen in irc01:37
fsmithredat some point, it will be apparent to you that some particular task needs to be done, and you know how to do it.01:38
andi89gi_fsmithred: okay i will do it and follow your advice;)01:58
grobbulusI dont understand why dont debian publicise devuan in their site? Surely devuan maintainers still contribute to debian right?08:29
grobbulusSuch a shame devuan is not more popular.. more free, more stable08:30
grobbulusWith sysv it was debatable but with openrc theres no questioning which is better08:32
g40problem: ` unable to create '/usr/share/....dpkg-new' (while processing './usr/share/locale/...'): No space left on device dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal13:11
g40df -h: `/dev/root       4.0G  1.5G  2.4G  38% /`13:12
g40`tmpfs          1000M     0 1000M   0% /tmp`13:12
g40free: `Mem:        2047448       49680     1619620         232      378148     1907424`13:12
g40`Swap:        517972           0      517972`13:12
g40any thoughts?13:13
DocScrutinizer05g40: how about a df -h '/usr/share/....dpkg-new'15:04
DocScrutinizer05(adjust path accordingly)15:05
g40DocScrutinizer05, thanks : `df -h /usr/share/mc/ Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/root       4.0G  1.5G  2.4G  38% /`15:10
DocScrutinizer05SD-card? could be defect (last resort guess)16:15
DocScrutinizer05but indeed I've seen exactly this a few times now: allegedly "no space" and often even kernel crash, while trying to weite to a 10% to 50% filled uSD16:17
DocScrutinizer05trying to write*16:18
g40DocScrutinizer05. it's definitely a possibility.22:42
systemdleteone way to know might be to run badblocks on the card. The downside is that adds a bit of wear and tear to the card, which I understand has limited read-write life.23:13
holladoes badblocks run on such devices? i thought they have some mechanism to spread wear, so you have no way to address a lication directly.23:22
Leanderyou're thinking about SSDs, but SD cards don't have such complex systems (AFAIK)23:23

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