libera/#devuan/ Saturday, 2018-09-22

KatolaZpackages.devuan.org and *.mirror.devuan.org are back online01:26
KatolaZeverything seems to work fine01:26
KatolaZjust shout if anything looks odd01:26
KatolaZo/01:26
EHeMThere is that issue of the one mirror which serves Europe-only, yet (as of this morning) was still part of us.deb.devuan.org.01:29
KatolaZEHeM: ?01:30
KatolaZwhich issue?01:30
EHeM37.220.36.58 gives 403 Forbidden, and I'm not the only person observing it.01:31
KatolaZEHeM: when have you tried?01:31
KatolaZand, which is the IP?01:31
KatolaZoh sorry01:31
KatolaZ37.220.36.5801:31
KatolaZEHeM: I have removed it from the RR, atm01:34
EHeMAs of ~9 hours ago.01:34
KatolaZmayve it was just a network glitch?01:34
KatolaZwill contact the administrator to see if they have any filter in place (seems quite strange though)01:34
KatolaZs/mayve/maybe01:35
KatolaZanyway, I have put it out of the RR, for the moment01:35
KatolaZEHeM: please try again01:35
KatolaZEHeM: anyway, I can reach it from the US01:37
KatolaZso it looks like a network problem maybe...01:38
KatolaZEHeM: are you sure you were using us.deb.devuan.org and not us.mirror.devuan.org?01:49
EHeMKatolaZ: Yes.02:19
rrqus.deb.devuan.org is an alias for pkgmaster.devuan.org02:26
rrqpkgmaster.devuan.org has address 5.196.38.1802:27
EHeMRight now it certainly looks that way.02:31
DonkeyHoteideb., not us.deb.02:32
etech3anybody know where to download Devuan Jessie 1.0 32 bit netinstall iso03:07
etech3I tried 4 times and on install, they say 64 bit even though it says i686 on the downloads03:08
buZzhttps://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie/installer-iso/03:08
buZzget the i38603:08
buZzetech3: wait03:09
buZzif your pc is capable of booting the 64bit one03:09
buZzwhy do you want the 32bit one?03:09
etech3I did but not from there let me try taht thanks03:09
etech3no it's a 32 bit machine03:09
buZzthats not what you said03:10
buZzyou said > I tried 4 times and on install, they say 64 bit03:10
buZz-on install-03:10
gnarfaceyea03:10
buZzetech3: what cpu is in it?03:10
gnarfaceetech3: also, are you sure you don't want ascii? it's newer...03:10
buZzascii isos are here ; https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/installer-iso/03:11
etech3I need Jesiie for a test with asterisk 1303:12
buZzwhat cpu then?03:15
EHeMIf etech3 is testing for end-user compatibility, it makes sense to ensure i386 compatibility.03:16
buZzbut asterisk 13 is ancient03:17
buZzah, latest LTS i guess03:18
* golinux still uses 32 bit jessie03:18
* golinux doesn't want to have to deal with multiarch to get wine working03:18
phogg64 bit kernel, 32 bit userland.03:20
buZzmultiarch works a treat03:21
buZzor i couldnt play steam on devuan ;)03:22
phoggSteam dropped 32bit Linux support some time ago.03:22
buZzsure ;)03:23
EHeMConverting a system from amd64 kernel with i386 userspace to full amd64 is a bit of a harrowing experience though.03:23
buZz/home/buzz/.steam/ubuntu12_32/steam: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.24, BuildID[sha1]=acecb80eee783966955c1304bad4f3af3c585475, not stripped03:24
buZzoh hey , they dropped 32bit , its just the binaries that are lagging :D03:24
buZzphogg: they -are- prepairing to go to real 64bit, but probably will still take >2 years03:24
phoggHmm. I wonder what it was I saw, then, in 2016 when everything in steam broke.03:24
phoggmaybe they backed off and I never noticed03:25
buZzbecause they would need to upgrade -all- the steam linux games to 64bit still03:25
phoggnot 32bit game support, just 32bit steam client support03:25
buZzyou cant run 32bit games without a 32bit gpu driver03:25
buZzhence, multiarch03:25
EHeMOne problem with Steam is their web monkeys never bothered to research SMTP and thus their system has bugs; e-mail addresses can contain rather a lot of non-alphanumeric characters, percent signs (rarely used now, but in the specifications), plus, even quoted strings.03:26
buZzhehe03:26
buZzyeah, thankgod for mailaliases03:27
EHeMTheir account creation rejects plus, and likely rather a lot more things which are valid; any chance you can file a bug report with them?03:27
buZzsure you can03:27
phoggThis is why my go-to email validation routine looks like "if string length greater than 2 return true"03:27
EHeMbuZz: Their bug report system is only available *after* account creation.03:28
buZzlol, you're unable to make a mail alias for yourself?03:28
EHeMbuZz: Such a thing is possible, but I prefer not to break my setup to work around their broken setup.03:28
buZzok03:28
buZzi just use seperate emails for -each- service i sign up to03:29
EHeMphogg: Also need to send a message to ensure the MTAs accept it.03:29
buZzthat way, i can autoblock all email to that address -when- eventually their db gets hacked and spammers get it03:29
phoggIt also helps when your email address shows up in a password list dump. You don't have to wonder which site it was, even if you never see the clear text passwords.03:30
EHeMI've been pondering setting my system to bounce any e-mail which *doesn't* include a '+' in the To address.03:33
buZzEHeM: i've been considering making a email receiver filter that just rejects -all- email with spelling errors03:34
buZzbut my inbox is just 'catch all' for entire domain03:34
buZzsubtracted all the services i already had to block for their shitty opsec03:34
cousin_luigiHowdy.13:36

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