FatPhil | golinux: private source, but I didn't mind leaking | 01:28 |
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FatPhil | well, not that private, it is internal discussion on chiark. | 01:28 |
FatPhil | apparently there's some wild flailing around to get debian to do the business in a satisfactory way, but, erm, why waste time? Devuan exists, it's stable, just migrate. | 01:30 |
golinux | FatPhil: When has Debian listened to its users? | 01:32 |
FatPhil | golinux: I'm not the best person to answer that question. | 01:33 |
FatPhil | I came up with a bugfix patch for a minority-interest package, that just sat there ignored for a year. I then got a job with a whole bunch of debian maintainers, including one of the arch (arm) leads. | 01:35 |
FatPhil | NMU within a few days, and the package maintainer went mental. | 01:35 |
FatPhil | So, should I be super happy with the maintainers (who fixed the bug) or be angry about the package maintainers (who ignored my fix)? | 01:36 |
golinux | That was a rhetorical question. ;) | 01:36 |
furrywolf | only patch I've done lately was for alsa-lib, and I just sent it to the authors. | 01:51 |
furrywolf | I found out that their function to silence buffers missed the last few bytes on some formats, explaining the annoying clicks I was getting. :) | 01:59 |
_stephen_ | The solution to my power button problem was to edit eloginds config to tell it to ignore the power button. | 02:52 |
_stephen_ | Now that bright and shiny candy-like button will no longer be my down fall when a toddler toddles by and sees it. | 02:53 |
_stephen_ | And by sees I mean smacks. | 02:53 |
gnarface | sorry, i would have suggested checking acpi or something | 03:04 |
gnarface | acpi supplanted apm | 03:04 |
gnarface | that's what you were looking for at least, but you were offline by the time i came back | 03:04 |
_stephen_ | I did install acpi support so the familiar scripts would be there, I've disabled the power in the past using that. | 03:10 |
_stephen_ | But it had no effect. | 03:10 |
_stephen_ | Yeah, I would have been back sooner, but when I came back online I couldn't spell devuan and I sat in a channel by myself for most of the day. | 03:10 |
_stephen_ | It wasn't until like 20 minutes ago I noticed my comment had the op symbol next to it... | 03:11 |
gnarface | there may also be a bios setting for power button behavior < 4s | 03:22 |
gnarface | it might be alterable there to something better in a way that will be propagated correctly | 03:23 |
gnarface | worth looking, anyway | 03:23 |
_stephen_ | What are the actual "cache files" that get updated when one does an apt-cache update ? | 04:30 |
_stephen_ | I mean apt-get update... | 04:31 |
debdog | /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bin at least | 04:35 |
holla | + /var/lib/apt/lists/ <-- and these are human readable also | 05:02 |
* man_in_shack waves | 15:01 | |
furrywolf | grr, wrong window | 18:54 |
furrywolf | lol | 18:54 |
furrywolf | and I managed to send that to yet a different wrong channel. | 18:54 |
* furrywolf should not irc while eating | 18:54 | |
unixman | furrywolf, probably would help if you got your head out of golinux's pantry before hitting send. ;) | 19:04 |
* debdog read panty there.... | 19:07 | |
furrywolf | lol | 19:08 |
bsd4me | what is the newest kernel for devuan? I am interested in beowulf or ceres due to my laptop, which is a lenovo ideapad 320 :( | 20:25 |
fsmithred | bsd4me, I think it's 4.18. | 20:26 |
bsd4me | Great! what I was hoping for. | 20:27 |
fsmithred | and depending on what you want to run for desktop, you might be better off with ascii and ascii-backports kernel | 20:27 |
bsd4me | I use xfce or icewm, or even fluxbox. | 20:27 |
fsmithred | plain wm should be fine. Anything that needs policykit or other *kit is probably not ready | 20:28 |
fsmithred | take a look at this, too. https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2301 | 20:29 |
bsd4me | ok, thanks | 20:29 |
bsd4me | One more question: do I start with ascii and change source.list? | 20:30 |
bsd4me | lol, just saw link :) | 20:30 |
benharri | yes, start with ascii | 20:31 |
fsmithred | yeah | 20:31 |
bsd4me | Thanks! | 20:33 |
bsd4me | This lenovo ideapad 320 doesn't like the 4.9 kernel at all. Needs at least 4.16, and preferably 4.18 :( | 21:23 |
bsd4me | 1st boot of ascii got to xfce, but the elantech 060 touchpad isn't recognized, and when moving to console, too many error lines kept popping up so that I couldn't do anything. | 21:24 |
bsd4me | 2nd boot, I tried safe settings and installation couldn't find installation medium | 21:25 |
bsd4me | 3rd boot, under safe mode, and got a kernel panic. | 21:25 |
bsd4me | Think I better wait for installation medium with newer kernel than 4.9 :) | 21:25 |
bsd4me | gotta leave. be back later. | 21:34 |
EHeM | How far is the process of fixing 37.220.36.58? There are certainly multiple reports so that seems a distinct issue. | 22:26 |
FlibberTGibbet | virt-manager fell over on ascii for me yesterday -- something to do with no polkit authorisation... isn't polkit a non-thing on devuan? | 22:47 |
gnarface | libpolkit is a thing, in fact i think there are more than one of them. | 22:53 |
gnarface | maybe you have the wrong one? | 22:53 |
gnarface | graphical login managers require one | 22:53 |
fsmithred | bsd4me, you need an iso with a newer kernel? | 22:57 |
bsd4me | yes | 22:57 |
fsmithred | I've got one with ascii-backports kernel (4.18) - https://get.refracta.org/files/experimental/refracta-test-oblx-bpo-20180913_1952.iso | 22:58 |
bsd4me | at minimum 4.16, but preferably 4.18 | 22:58 |
bsd4me | Thanks! | 22:58 |
fsmithred | try it | 22:58 |
bsd4me | downloading now :) | 22:58 |
fsmithred | it has some wireless firmware installed, openbox and not a lot else | 22:59 |
bsd4me | That's ok, give me opportunity to check X and if touchpad will work, and if X will start :) | 23:03 |
fsmithred | you can install that system if you want. Run refractainstaller | 23:05 |
bsd4me | ok | 23:05 |
bsd4me | appreciate the help! | 23:05 |
fsmithred | if you have network, you could install debootstrap and then do a debootstrap install | 23:05 |
bsd4me | Yes, can do cable or wireless with urtwn | 23:06 |
bsd4me | but never tried debootstrap install :) | 23:07 |
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