| gnarface | well, chances are you just didn't complete the upgrade | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| gnarface | but there's a lot of things that you could theoretically have done to cause this | 00:01 |
| maxrazer | I did upgrade, but not dist-upgrade. | 00:01 |
| maxrazer | The install was jesse and I tried to upgrade to ceres. | 00:01 |
| gnarface | probably would have been wiser to fully upgrade to ascii first | 00:02 |
| golinux | maxrazer: Take a look at this post: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2301 | 00:02 |
| maxrazer | I was surprised it was not ascii. It was a fresh download iso | 00:02 |
| golinux | Bothe ascci and jessie iso are available | 00:02 |
| golinux | Did you read the release notes in the download directory? | 00:03 |
| maxrazer | I didn't read any release notes. | 00:03 |
| golinux | So you'd rather shoot yourself on the foot? | 00:04 |
| golinux | There is a LOT on info in there to save headaches like you're experiencing. | 00:05 |
| golinux | Do read that thread on the forum posted above. | 00:05 |
| maxrazer | Ok, I see the txt file now. | 00:05 |
| maxrazer | So, running Devuan Ceres may have issues where I can't just use the resources and upgrade from current. | 00:10 |
| maxrazer | "Right now, merged/beowulf and merged/ceres is not functioning the same way as the Debian buster and sid branches. It seems that Devuan specific packages are not trickling down fast enough from experimental to unstable to testing. I can well imagine that the Devuan-Project just simply does not have the resources and manpower to do it any faster. | 00:10 |
| maxrazer | " | 00:10 |
| maxrazer | Does this just pertain to testing though? Because I don't care about testing. He mentions Beowulf, not Ceres. | 00:11 |
| gnarface | maxrazer: a small few packages will need to be rebuilt for ceres too. as far as i know that's automatic but not instant. | 00:15 |
| gnarface | i should say usually automatic even | 00:15 |
| gnarface | i'm sure manual intervention is necessary sometimes too | 00:15 |
| maxrazer | I'm going to try upgrading from ascii and see what happens. | 00:16 |
| gnarface | are you doing a fresh install? | 00:16 |
| maxrazer | yes | 00:16 |
| gnarface | or repairing the existing one? | 00:16 |
| gnarface | if it's a fresh install, try to do ascii headless. don't install all your GUI stuff until after you have ceres booting | 00:16 |
| gnarface | try to get the upgrade done without any graphical environment | 00:17 |
| gnarface | that will avoid most the problems with userspace. that may even allow you to upgrade to beowulf first which would be the official process if this were debian and beowulf weren't so very broken currently | 00:17 |
| golinux | maxrazer: Did you read it or just dismiss it? | 00:17 |
| maxrazer | Yeah, I was thinking of not installing the desktop environment to be faster anyway. | 00:18 |
| gnarface | yea, also read that link | 00:18 |
| golinux | You have to keep some ascii p[ackages that are new than in beowulf and ceres. | 00:18 |
| maxrazer | The web post doesn't specifically say ceres, it says beowolf. | 00:18 |
| golinux | You havwv to make the adjusts for beowulf for ceres to work. | 00:18 |
| maxrazer | Oh, the same problems. | 00:19 |
| golinux | Some ascii pkgs are newer. Now we're starting to build them for ceres but earlier thy went directly into the stable release. | 00:20 |
| maxrazer | That isn't obvious because testing is often lags behind unstable, which is why I don't use it. | 00:20 |
| golinux | Our workflow has been different. You can't do what you've always done. | 00:21 |
| golinux | Hopefully that will be straightened out by the beowulf release. | 00:21 |
| maxrazer | Ok, good to know, thanks. | 00:21 |
| golinux | Also, don't use "stable" or "testing" in your sources list. Always use the <releasename? | 00:22 |
| golinux | Sorry for all the typos. | 00:22 |
| maxrazer | I put Ceres. I saw something saying not to use the Suite name. | 00:23 |
| golinux | I was told that "unstable" will work but "ceres" will too because is never changes. | 00:24 |
| golinux | is > it | 00:24 |
| golinux | Are you using deb.devuan.org in your sources? | 00:24 |
| maxrazer | I think I was. It was the default | 00:25 |
| golinux | The RC used pkgmaster | 00:26 |
| golinux | The release notes explains all of that. | 00:26 |
| golinux | afk | 00:28 |
| Criggie | Sad - there is no devuan AMI in AWS community marketplace. | 02:55 |
| rrq | I made a Devuan ascii.. at ireland and sydney... | 03:48 |
| Xenguy | o/~ In Scotland, where my heart lies ... o/~ | 03:59 |
| Xenguy | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FE6JTtCLK0 | 04:03 |
| Criggie | rrq: oh so they're restricted to lcoation ? Yeah that makes sense I guess. | 04:11 |
| nimbius | hey devuan, is there some option for a minimal installation? | 04:43 |
| nimbius | the wifi/network manager in the default desktop manager is making my shit itch. | 04:43 |
| gnarface | nimbius: do an expert-mode install, and when you get to tasksel just uncheck all the boxes | 04:44 |
| gnarface | (that's the same as Debian) | 04:44 |
| nimbius | gnarface: thanks!! :) | 04:44 |
| gnarface | no problem | 04:44 |
| grillon | hi there | 08:02 |
| golinux | Howdy | 08:20 |
| meowschwitz | oh boy this place got a lot bigger since the last time | 11:16 |
| filipdevuan_ | nice | 11:37 |
| devoid_ | hey meowschwitz | 13:44 |
| yap | hi | 14:24 |
| meowschwitz | I AM MEOWSCHWITZ | 14:26 |
| meowschwitz | I mean hi | 14:26 |
| meowschwitz | oh wrong channel | 14:26 |
| meowschwitz | :< | 14:26 |
| filipdevuan_ | hello, is there something like a battery manager here on devuan?? | 15:05 |
| filipdevuan_ | and open-source free radio app | 15:05 |
| Anselmo | like, SDR radio orlike, online radio streaming ? | 15:06 |
| filipdevuan_ | what's sdre radio?? | 15:06 |
| Anselmo | like, if you have a physical radio plugged into your computer | 15:06 |
| Anselmo | software-defined-radio | 15:07 |
| Anselmo | most music players I've used on linux do support radio streams from the internet | 15:07 |
| filipdevuan_ | ohh something like online radio streaming but opensource or just free dunno | 15:07 |
| Anselmo | if you're into graphical programs clementine would probably work for that | 15:08 |
| Anselmo | about batteries I dont know so much, usually I just look at acpi if I need that | 15:09 |
| filipdevuan_ | ok thanks :) | 15:09 |
| gnarface | acpi -b | 15:11 |
| gnarface | lots of window managers have their own built-in battery meters though | 15:12 |
| Anselmo | I bet lots of them just call acpi . . . :P | 15:12 |
| nemo | filipdevuan_: my problem has been that the built-in battery reporting in MATE relies on upower which appears to be misreporting my battery state | 15:18 |
| nemo | sooo gotta figure out how to either fix upower or change where mate gets its info from | 15:18 |
| nemo | (at least on this pinebook) | 15:19 |
| fil_ | ok i downloaded something like TLP for a battery stuff | 15:19 |
| fil_ | sorry i got disconnected | 15:22 |
| nemo | fil_: if you're just wondering what your batteries charge status is, TLP is probably overkill | 15:23 |
| nemo | but I guess battery manager is a bit ambiguous | 15:24 |
| fil_ | uhmm i basically annoys me when i have got laptop turned on and no battery connected and then system just shuts down but i remember on windows 10 it was just suspending for like 5-10 mins before shutting down | 15:24 |
| furrymcgee | upower is a daemon for power management | 15:30 |
| nemo | furrymcgee: ok? | 15:38 |
| nemo | furrymcgee: well reporting, not management but anyway | 15:38 |
| nemo | fil_: I'm having a hard time understanding what you describe | 15:40 |
| nemo | how could the laptop work at all with no battery connected, unless you mean plugged in on AC but no battery in which case why would it ever suspend | 15:40 |
| Anselmo | oh, I think its like, on windows it recognizes like, 5 minutes till the batteries empty, and decides to go to sleep | 15:42 |
| nemo | Anselmo: ok but what did he mean by "no battery connected" | 15:42 |
| nemo | Anselmo: anyway, that stuff's usually handled by the window manager - like if you're in MATE (or KDE or Gnome) you can configure that in settings and the defaults are usually sensible | 15:42 |
| nemo | ... unless the underlying layer is misreporting which is my problem on the pinebook right now | 15:43 |
| Anselmo | it might mean no battery with charge, leading to shutting down suggenly because no power to draw | 15:43 |
| nemo | ok was confused by "connected" | 15:43 |
| Anselmo | but this is a guess that fil_ could explain infinitly better than me | 15:43 |
| Anselmo | also yeah, I just dont know the names of the tools, though actually that is something I should setup on my laptop . . | 15:44 |
| nemo | my main problem with devuan was suspend-when-closing-lid not working properly - but frankly there was like a 10% chance that failed on the ubuntu I had on here previously. | 15:45 |
| nemo | so someone here suggested just binding power button to suspend which works fine for my purposes | 15:45 |
| nemo | press button once before closing lid | 15:45 |
| nemo | the random failures in past had me overheating the poor laptop in its backpack before | 15:46 |
| Anselmo | mm | 15:46 |
| Anselmo | ha | 15:46 |
| nemo | might not have been random on reflection. maybe MATE was ignoring suspend when screensaver was active or something stupid like that. but oh well whatever | 15:47 |
| fil_ | yeah Anselmo this is what i meant. if i get info about battery dying to 0% soon on windows it just gonna suspend for a bit and then when i connect AC to the laptop it starts again from suspend here on devuan it just turns off completely :P | 15:48 |
| nemo | fil_: yeah. I'd say that's something to look into in your desktop environment - which one are you using? | 15:49 |
| fil_ | xfce | 15:49 |
| fil_ | but i also have e17 | 15:49 |
| nemo | ah... | 15:49 |
| fil_ | i get that on both of em though | 15:50 |
| nemo | haven't used XFCE in a long while, so don't remember what their settings are | 15:50 |
| fil_ | yeah no problem ;) | 15:50 |
| nemo | but yeah. most desktops have some sort of power manager | 15:50 |
| fil_ | oh okay | 15:50 |
| fil_ | there is xfce power manager oh silly me | 15:50 |
| nemo | like in MATE it is mate-power-preferences for settings | 15:50 |
| nemo | mm | 15:50 |
| fil_ | i can change the battery powel level and then: action ;D | 15:51 |
| nemo | hehe | 15:51 |
| nemo | yeeeep | 15:51 |
| fil_ | okay silly me, thanks! | 15:51 |
| nemo | surprised it didn't have good defaults though | 15:51 |
| Anselmo | hrm | 15:52 |
| fil_ | :) | 15:52 |
| MinceR | /lc/lc | 15:53 |
| MinceR | disregard that | 15:53 |
| premoboss | hello, i got strange behaviour in the channel, may i talk with an admin? | 17:11 |
| nailyk | so firefox-esr switched to quantum? Is there any chance to have the previous release into our reprository please ? | 17:17 |
| nemo | nailyk: preeeetty sure debian is not a fan of distributing software without security patching | 17:21 |
| nailyk | am not talking about security but instability xD | 17:21 |
| nailyk | thanks =) | 17:22 |
| nemo | nailyk: if you want non-quantum (I still have it myself on ONE profile due to an addon I don't want to give up) you probably should just keep it in your home after grabbing a zip from mozilla | 17:22 |
| nemo | nailyk: I'm certainly aware of your reasons and I sympathise, but it would just be a bad idea | 17:22 |
| nailyk | are you using kee too ? | 17:22 |
| nemo | nailyk: hell. I know I'm running a risk, but I do it anyway. I do run NoScript and keep my browsing in that profile to a minimum | 17:22 |
| nemo | nailyk: naw | 17:22 |
| nemo | what is kee | 17:22 |
| golinux | premoboss: That is probably because of the changes to keep spam under control | 17:22 |
| nailyk | I agree, but as they are leaving my issue alone, I dont know what to do | 17:23 |
| nailyk | nemo: kee is keepass to firefox integration (kee.org) | 17:23 |
| nailyk | forget about kee.org | 17:23 |
| nailyk | kee.pm | 17:24 |
| premoboss | golinux, i was ckecked off bay the channel, when i try to log in againg, i got reply "this nickname is already in use". | 17:25 |
| premoboss | i was afraid someone stole my identity password. | 17:26 |
| nemo | nailyk: hmm looks like they have a quantum version of kee? | 17:28 |
| nemo | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/keefox/ seems to be installable in my firefox nightly anyway | 17:29 |
| nailyk | yes, but this cause network issues in firefox | 17:29 |
| nailyk | looks like I am the only one to complain about xD. Btw noscript is working fine on nightly. | 17:29 |
| golinux | premoboss: Hmmm . . . have you registered your nick? That would prevent someone else from using it. | 17:47 |
| premoboss | golinux, of course i have a registered nick. if were not, i cannot join many channel. | 17:48 |
| golinux | Right. | 17:48 |
| premoboss | i registered months ago. | 17:48 |
| golinux | Maybe the previous connection was not closed down properly. | 17:49 |
| golinux | But you're here now, right? So let us know if it happens again. | 17:50 |
| premoboss | golinux, ok. | 17:50 |
| golinux | Maybe ping buZz. He knows much more that I. | 17:51 |
| buZz | ? | 17:52 |
| premoboss | the probme is that about 90 mins ago the connection appared dropped, when i log back again, the channel refused me telling that the nick was already in use. so i suspected someon can inperonate me. or maybe the login stay there as "gost" in channel and avaiod to me to connect. | 17:52 |
| buZz | premoboss: sometimes on a bad reconnection (or serversplit) your nickname can get stuck | 17:52 |
| premoboss | buZz, ok. | 17:52 |
| buZz | premoboss: if you use SASL to login to freenode, you automatically regain, so never have the wrong nickname | 17:52 |
| buZz | but i agree, its a mess sometimes | 17:53 |
| buZz | even i get booted out of channels i've been in many years | 17:53 |
| filipdevuan_ | hey id like to teach myself bash shell scripts i started with this website http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/ch02sec01.html | 20:25 |
| kekePower | filipdevuan_: Any start is a good start :-) | 20:34 |
| kekePower | You can't become great unless you start. | 20:34 |
| filipdevuan_ | hahah i named my script called kek yesterday xD. now when i type bash kek i get exact date and clock :) | 20:34 |
| Anselmo | haha | 20:35 |
| unixman | filipdevuan_, http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide | 20:35 |
| filipdevuan_ | ok cheers i like bash :) | 20:35 |
| Anselmo | are you trying to learn shell scripting, or the shell ? | 20:35 |
| unixman | filipdevuan_, also #bash on Freenode. | 20:35 |
| Anselmo | as there's sort of a small difference :P | 20:36 |
| filipdevuan_ | uhmm probably scripting but i dont know what u mean by learning shell? | 20:36 |
| filipdevuan_ | ok cheers :0 | 20:36 |
| filipdevuan_ | :) | 20:36 |
| Anselmo | well, like, just using the shell vs writing scripts for it | 20:36 |
| kekePower | I swithced to zsh a few years back. It's close enough to bash, but IMHO, has some strenghts that bash doesn't | 20:36 |
| Anselmo | its basically the same, just interactive or not | 20:36 |
| filipdevuan_ | oh well i would like to have ability to learn writing various scripts cuz i think writing scripts is cool :) | 20:36 |
| Anselmo | :3 | 20:37 |
| kekePower | filipdevuan_: it sure is :-) | 20:37 |
| filipdevuan_ | yeah :D | 20:37 |
| filipdevuan_ | but id like to learn both i guess cuz i use gnu linux now as my primary distro ;P | 20:37 |
| furrymcgee | bash has too many functions start with sh | 20:38 |
| filipdevuan_ | so im hoping to learn stuff that on windows is not a possibilty | 20:38 |
| Anselmo | mmm | 20:38 |
| kekePower | filipdevuan_: You'll find you will write scripts of various lengths to automate something you could do with 2 or 3 command line punches :-) | 20:38 |
| Anselmo | sh is also handy for wide compatibility . . . | 20:38 |
| filipdevuan_ | yeah like script they mentioned here at the bottom of the page :) http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/ch02sec01.html | 20:38 |
| Anselmo | so you can use posix things rather than just bashisms | 20:38 |
| kekePower | Anselmo: Compatability is only an issue if one wants to publish a script | 20:38 |
| Anselmo | compatibility is an issue for me, in distributing scripts between all the systems I use | 20:39 |
| filipdevuan_ | by the way i wonder if there's something like being able to create free and open-source website that wouldn't appear on google??? | 20:39 |
| kekePower | but you can't rely on sh on some systems as it symlinks to bash. I.e. Fedora | 20:40 |
| Anselmo | bash supports all the posix things | 20:40 |
| kekePower | unless this symlinking makes bash go into sh compatability mode | 20:40 |
| Anselmo | or nearly all of them | 20:40 |
| filipdevuan_ | yeah fedora is quite nice i used it for a while in the past but tracker apps put me off | 20:40 |
| furrymcgee | man sh is 1540 lines, man bash 5686 lines | 20:40 |
| kekePower | I've found that learning how to script is a lifetime venture | 20:41 |
| Anselmo | typically a good script for /bin/sh should work for /bin/bash as well | 20:41 |
| filipdevuan_ | yeah i feel like i just started i got into scripts cuz in the past there were bots that were playing the game for you | 20:41 |
| filipdevuan_ | and there were scripts for each character and the actions and i found that exciting | 20:41 |
| kekePower | Anselmo: So you know sh and it's limitations? So when you script, you don't fall into the trap of using something bash? | 20:42 |
| kekePower | s/it's/its | 20:42 |
| filipdevuan_ | but iv read somewhere if u wanna get good at something you need to train it or learn specific subject for about 10 years before u get good enough ;D | 20:42 |
| Anselmo | my regular shell is ksh, if I am writing a script I dont test it on bash, so if I over use bash features, they will come pu as errors | 20:43 |
| Anselmo | so, I mean, to some degree, yes, | 20:43 |
| kekePower | :-) | 20:43 |
| Anselmo | I'm by no means a master of unix shell scripting but I know enough to get by | 20:43 |
| kekePower | Anselmo: So you hack on something until it works :-) | 20:43 |
| * kekePower has pulled a lot of hair over a typo | 20:44 | |
| Anselmo | ehh, I mean, I think you should always test things before actually using them :P | 20:44 |
| kekePower | yeah | 20:44 |
| Anselmo | and its just a matter of keeping all your languages straight at some point | 20:45 |
| Anselmo | its rarethat I start trying to write lisp in a unix shell :P | 20:46 |
| filipdevuan_ | so is there sometjing like free open-source website?? | 20:46 |
| Anselmo | filipdevuan_, uhm, if you mean not being indexed by google, I think google bots respect robots.txt | 20:46 |
| Anselmo | and you can generate a website with free software, of course | 20:46 |
| filipdevuan_ | okay :) | 20:47 |
| Anselmo | and run it on any number of free software httpds | 20:47 |
| filipdevuan_ | yeah i really want to learn about how to make a website | 20:47 |
| filipdevuan_ | just a website for being able to identify myself on internet | 20:47 |
| filipdevuan_ | yeah | 20:47 |
| filipdevuan_ | what about writing scripts for websites??? | 20:48 |
| kekePower | filipdevuan_: You can, if you want, re-invent the wheel | 20:48 |
| filipdevuan_ | what do you mean?? | 20:48 |
| kekePower | filipdevuan_: but there are a lot of options out there you can use | 20:48 |
| filipdevuan_ | yeah | 20:49 |
| filipdevuan_ | like i think wordpress is too easy even though its open source not sure if its free though | 20:49 |
| Anselmo | ehh,when I was looking at setting up my website I figured it would probably take me as long to find a sitebuilder thing that I liked, learn to use it, and write a site in it that I liked, as it would to write my own site generater with all the things I wanted -_- | 20:49 |
| Anselmo | so I wrote my own :P | 20:49 |
| kekePower | you can write in Markdown and use discount to generate HTML | 20:50 |
| Anselmo | but filipdevuan_, you can even just write up your own html and css (or php or (please not) javascript), or you could find any of a number of static website generators to make a nice html page | 20:50 |
| kekePower | then cat a header and a footer to create a complete looking page | 20:50 |
| Anselmo | ultimately that's all any website really is, just a bunch of html | 20:50 |
| kekePower | I was searching a lot for a CMS that could export to HTML so I could use the database features on a backend machine and not bog down my public facing server with some sort of scripting language | 20:52 |
| filipdevuan_ | yeah im not gonna use javascript i dont wanna be evil i feel like unexperienced advocate of free open source software | 20:52 |
| filipdevuan_ | ;d | 20:52 |
| Anselmo | ha ^_^ | 20:52 |
| filipdevuan_ | because i have optimus nvidia gpu at the moment in the laptop i think i may try to configure using nouveau drivers instead of proprietary nvidia someday | 20:53 |
| filipdevuan_ | here on devuan | 20:54 |
| filipdevuan_ | im also very aware of companies mining data about me like google and others.... | 20:55 |
| kekePower | filipdevuan_: the nvidia driver uses less battery than the nouveau one in my experience | 20:55 |
| filipdevuan_ | oh right well... | 20:55 |
| filipdevuan_ | i wonder why ;P | 20:55 |
| filipdevuan_ | lack of scripts? :P | 20:55 |
| filipdevuan_ | for nouveavu drivers of course | 20:55 |
| kekePower | filipdevuan_: you can also set your DNS servers to the cloudflare ones: 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.0.1 | 20:55 |
| filipdevuan_ | why? | 20:56 |
| kekePower | filipdevuan_: because they're fast and they don't mine data like some of the others does | 20:56 |
| filipdevuan_ | i have no idea how to change dns on devuan | 20:56 |
| Anselmo | or you coulduse opennic | 20:56 |
| filipdevuan_ | but i avoid popular distros because they have google dns set by default at least some of em manjaro antergos and arch based distros | 20:57 |
| Anselmo | or something like it, rather than trusting cloudfare to not lie . .. | 20:57 |
| kekePower | I've found that the one supplied with my router is too slow | 20:57 |
| filipdevuan_ | yeah id love to if i knew how to change dns ;d | 20:57 |
| Anselmo | filipdevuan_: usually, in /etc/resolv.conf | 20:57 |
| Anselmo | there are a number of lines like | 20:57 |
| Anselmo | nameserver 321.4381.213.24 | 20:57 |
| Anselmo | which specify nameservers at that ip address | 20:57 |
| kekePower | or /etc/resolvconf.d/base | 20:58 |
| Anselmo | but usually they're generated somewhere, I dont recall how devuan does it x-x | 20:58 |
| filipdevuan_ | i only have nameserver 192.186.0.1 here in resolv.conf | 20:58 |
| Anselmo | that's related to your router probably | 20:58 |
| kekePower | filipdevuan_: that's prolly your router | 20:58 |
| filipdevuan_ | yeah ;) | 20:58 |
| fsmithred | if you have a router, you probably have your ISP's dns set there. | 20:58 |
| fsmithred | and resolv.conf just points to the router | 20:59 |
| filipdevuan_ | yeah well. i remember when i installed manjaro they had google dns and i deleted it from resolv.conf and then my os didnt wanna to start lol so i had to delete it and install another one | 20:59 |
| Anselmo | wat | 20:59 |
| fsmithred | there are other ways to fix that | 20:59 |
| filipdevuan_ | yeah maybe but i havent got patience i just had black screen nothing else when it booted | 21:00 |
| fsmithred | that would have been caused by something else | 21:00 |
| Anselmo | yeah -_- | 21:00 |
| filipdevuan_ | and i think it was because i messed dns in resolv.conf in systemd folder | 21:00 |
| Anselmo | I dont think devuan should do that | 21:00 |
| fsmithred | no, wrong dns won't give you black screen | 21:00 |
| filipdevuan_ | nah i dont like google however iv been reading a book about them for two days now haha called google story or something | 21:01 |
| filipdevuan_ | i read that one of this guy who created it wanted to download whole web to his computer and he was mining data too... i dont think mining data is nice | 21:01 |
| filipdevuan_ | but that was in 90s i think | 21:01 |
| filipdevuan_ | they mentioned some search engines like altavista or something | 21:02 |
| filipdevuan_ | yeah maybe it doesnt matter i didnt like this manjaro i dont like distros that look too sweet if u know what i mean | 21:02 |
| richardonnay | datamining is no joke | 21:03 |
| kekePower | it's a billion dollar business | 21:03 |
| richardonnay | filipdevuan_: you made a good choice escaping systemd and coming to the deb side | 21:04 |
| filipdevuan_ | yeah but i mean in 90s he was data mining and saying that wants to get whole web downloaded while in uni | 21:04 |
| filipdevuan_ | yeah thanks :) i think that too ;) | 21:04 |
| filipdevuan_ | i think i still remember the day when i discovered website boykottsystemd or something like that and found devuan on systemd free distros list | 21:04 |
| Anselmo | well, back then it might have been feasible x-x | 21:04 |
| filipdevuan_ | http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page | 21:04 |
| filipdevuan_ | yeah probably | 21:05 |
| filipdevuan_ | i dont even know how to download websites from internet i think i can only download single pages.... | 21:05 |
| kekePower | I'm using a Devuan spin called Miyolinux and have hacked it to use as little battery as possible. Right now I've achived around 10w discharge. | 21:06 |
| filipdevuan_ | oh yeah im worried about my laptop battery as well... would love to tweak it a bit... | 21:06 |
| richardonnay | filipdevuan_: wget recursively. | 21:06 |
| kekePower | it's only usable as a typewriter, basically :-) | 21:06 |
| filipdevuan_ | oh thanks ;) | 21:06 |
| filipdevuan_ | yeah my battery is not impressive and its built-in to laptop i think so i cant even replace it i think | 21:07 |
| Anselmo | oh x-x | 21:07 |
| filipdevuan_ | and i use european cable but im in england and they have different sockets and perhaps different voltages as well so not sure if its good for battery | 21:07 |
| Anselmo | some of those you can replace, you just need a screwdriver and some patience | 21:07 |
| filipdevuan_ | okay :) | 21:08 |
| kekePower | anywhere I can follow the development of Devuan? | 21:09 |
| kekePower | found it | 21:11 |
| * kekePower was just being lazy | 21:11 | |
| filipdevuan_ | can u share your link :) | 21:13 |
| kekePower | https://devuan.org/os/development | 21:16 |
| filipdevuan_ | thanks | 21:44 |
| kekePower | de nada | 21:51 |
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