amarsh04 | back in libc 2.28 | 00:56 |
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haxmeister | I seem to be having problems gettin the proper packages installed for golang | 01:33 |
haxmeister | the tool godoc doesn't seem to be installed.. though I have installed it | 01:34 |
haxmeister | is anyone familiar with this issue? | 01:34 |
Criggie | What's the command to install from a booted live CD ? | 01:34 |
Criggie | haxmeister: sorry I'm not familiar with golang | 01:34 |
Xenguy | haxmeister: What's your process for installing? | 01:35 |
haxmeister | using synaptic gui | 01:35 |
Xenguy | But you say it doesn't end up getting installed? | 01:35 |
haxmeister | well the command isn't recognized | 01:35 |
Xenguy | Are you willing to give the command-line a go? | 01:36 |
Xenguy | If so, get thee to a root prompt! | 01:36 |
haxmeister | I love the command line.. was just using gui to get my new devuan up and rolling | 01:36 |
haxmeister | done | 01:36 |
Xenguy | I'd just try apt-get | 01:36 |
Xenguy | or apt | 01:37 |
haxmeister | but package name? | 01:37 |
Xenguy | Did you say it was 'godoc' ? | 01:37 |
haxmeister | godoc is part of the go tools that are standard with golang | 01:37 |
Xenguy | The package name here appears to be: golang-doc | 01:38 |
haxmeister | I did that with gui.. maybe let's try at term | 01:39 |
Xenguy | (There's also a 'golang-src' FWIW) | 01:39 |
haxmeister | well I am a funtoo user..lol | 01:39 |
haxmeister | but I want to use devuan the way it was intended | 01:39 |
haxmeister | so apt-get golang-doc ? | 01:40 |
Xenguy | apt-get install golang-doc | 01:40 |
haxmeister | ah ok | 01:40 |
haxmeister | golang-doc is already the newest version (2:1.7~5). | 01:41 |
Xenguy | hrm, already installed? | 01:41 |
haxmeister | not sure what's missing here | 01:41 |
haxmeister | sucks to be ignorant..lol.. I'll figure it out | 01:44 |
haxmeister | thanks for your grace | 01:44 |
Xenguy | Wish I could offer a silver bullet | 01:44 |
Xenguy | I'd say do further research on what packages are required for w/e you're trying to accomplish | 01:45 |
Xenguy | I'm not familiar at all with go | 01:45 |
haxmeister | https://michaelheap.com/installing-godoc-for-golang-go-1-2/ | 01:45 |
Xenguy | That kind of new installation method is news to me | 01:47 |
haxmeister | yeah | 01:48 |
haxmeister | just not in place in devuan | 01:48 |
Xenguy | It's like they have an entirely different method of installing, from the usual devuan way for example | 01:48 |
haxmeister | no probs | 01:48 |
haxmeister | well in go you can install packages/libs but they go to user space generally | 01:49 |
Xenguy | If you decide to try compiling, check out an interesting util called (I think) chkinstall | 01:49 |
haxmeister | nah no need for all that | 01:50 |
haxmeister | thank you though | 01:50 |
Xenguy | It will conclude a compile by producing a .deb file, that you can then install as per normal(ish) | 01:50 |
Xenguy | np, good luck | 01:50 |
golinux | Criggie: There is a readme on the live-iso desktop | 01:53 |
golinux | There are several ways to do it - from the icon on the desktop, from the system menu and from a terminal. | 01:54 |
golinux | Look for refractainstaller' | 01:55 |
golinux | You can also read about it here: https://refracta.org/documents.html | 01:55 |
haxmeister | found the devuan way | 01:57 |
haxmeister | Xenguy: it was in a separate package called golang-golang-x-tools | 01:57 |
Xenguy | haxmeister: nice | 01:57 |
haxmeister | not sure why | 01:57 |
haxmeister | but I'm also new to go still | 01:57 |
haxmeister | and devuan | 01:58 |
Criggie | golinux: chur - I ended up downloading the right ISO and installing already - all good thanks. | 01:58 |
Xenguy | Seems like you found your way | 01:58 |
haxmeister | I'm mostly a funtoo/perl hacker..lol | 01:58 |
Xenguy | You guys are hardcore | 01:58 |
haxmeister | it's not really hardcore man.. just learning yet another tool that someone else wrote | 01:59 |
haxmeister | funtoo has emerge, devuan has apt-get | 02:00 |
Xenguy | gentoo/funtoo are pretty on about compiling, so that's hardcore for me : -) | 02:00 |
haxmeister | all the compiling happens automagically | 02:00 |
haxmeister | except you wait for it..lol | 02:00 |
Xenguy | But need to learn various options, yes? | 02:00 |
Xenguy | True | 02:00 |
haxmeister | the options are set to work fine pretty much out of the box | 02:00 |
haxmeister | but you can learn them and get all tweaky if you want | 02:01 |
haxmeister | it can be fun | 02:01 |
Xenguy | Devuan is much more 'automatic' (tho of course you can compile if you want too | 02:01 |
Xenguy | ) | 02:01 |
haxmeister | I had to switch to something because funtoo is a bit stale for almost a year now | 02:01 |
haxmeister | much needed packages were missing | 02:01 |
Xenguy | Yeah, I think funtoo is closer to the guts of things | 02:01 |
Xenguy | Oh, didn't know | 02:02 |
haxmeister | like freecad | 02:02 |
haxmeister | I use that at work | 02:02 |
haxmeister | but I don't want systemd... so I found devuan | 02:02 |
Xenguy | Is it decently usable? | 02:02 |
haxmeister | freecad? | 02:02 |
Xenguy | Freecad I mean | 02:02 |
haxmeister | first class | 02:02 |
haxmeister | srsly | 02:02 |
Xenguy | Good to hear, cos I was under the impression 'cad' could be hard | 02:02 |
haxmeister | I can imagine | 02:03 |
haxmeister | but the software is heavily documented and easy to learn | 02:03 |
haxmeister | devuan has old version in repo.. so I'm using an appimage | 02:03 |
Xenguy | Is it stable also? | 02:04 |
haxmeister | the latest stable is yes | 02:04 |
Xenguy | Great to hear | 02:04 |
haxmeister | .17 | 02:04 |
haxmeister | they added CAM to it.. so it can generate code for 3D printing and CNC machines | 02:04 |
Xenguy | Sounds active then, good | 02:05 |
haxmeister | yes sir.. good stuff.. I feel like it is one of the most important pieces of major software being worked on.. | 02:05 |
haxmeister | in the linux community I mean to say.. since that field is heavily neglected otherwise | 02:06 |
Xenguy | Off to watch some Bill Murray documentary apparently : -) | 02:07 |
Xenguy | Thanks for the chat! | 02:07 |
haxmeister | what in the world? | 02:07 |
haxmeister | lol | 02:07 |
haxmeister | cheerz! | 02:07 |
Xenguy | You too | 02:07 |
Hurgotron | That was not a nice update experience... | 02:53 |
* Hurgotron gets himself a whisky | 02:55 | |
Hurgotron | So I had to update my server from Devuan jessie to ascii some day, and i decided today was the day. | 02:55 |
Hurgotron | Did backups first. Then https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/upgrade-to-ascii | 02:56 |
Hurgotron | Reboot. Machine was fucked. | 02:56 |
Hurgotron | 1000 times "Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to device scanning" then drop to initramfs | 02:56 |
Hurgotron | turn out the root lvm wasn't there, because the md device was missing. The /boot md was there, fortunately. | 02:57 |
Hurgotron | got the root md running again with one disk. Keeps saying the other disk is too small. Huh. | 02:58 |
Hurgotron | Turns out I had HPA enabled and the new kernel didn't like it somehow. Last entry here was helpful: https://askubuntu.com/questions/239972/how-do-i-fix-mdadm-dev-sdc1-not-large-enough-to-join-array-for-three-identic | 02:59 |
Hurgotron | next step... ascii has its own remote-unlock-luks-with-dropbear mechanism now which interfered with my previos setup. | 03:01 |
Hurgotron | I think i got that running now. Mostly. | 03:01 |
Hurgotron | next step. Get the correct kernel running. grub2 is a Piece of Shit. | 03:01 |
Hurgotron | I now have set default="1>2" in my config. Which seems to mean "take the third (!!!!) enxtra from the first submenu". | 03:03 |
Hurgotron | *entry | 03:03 |
Hurgotron | Can't they even make up their fucking minds if they want to start counting from 0 or 1. | 03:03 |
Hurgotron | Took me 5 reboots or so to get that right. And grub install was slow as hell because raid was rebuilding in background. | 03:04 |
Hurgotron | And 4.9 seems to have isues with handling my crypted disks. When booting, I get a few times "Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to device scanning" and at shoutdown "Stopping remaining crypto disks ... busy" | 03:07 |
Hurgotron | I'll look into that later. For now, worked around by using my old 4.4 kernel which is fine. | 03:07 |
Hurgotron | I would have been SO FUCKED without remote KVM... | 03:08 |
Hurgotron | I think eben the update from Ubuntun 12.04 to Devuan jessie has been more smooth. | 03:11 |
golinux | <Hurgotron> I think eben the update from Ubuntun 12.04 to Devuan jessie has been more smooth. | 03:29 |
golinux | That could be your problem right there. Devuan and Ubuntu are not compatible even though they are both based on Devuan | 03:30 |
golinux | Debian, I mean | 03:31 |
Xenguy | Hurgotron: harrowing story; wondering if you took a wrong turn tho | 03:31 |
Hurgotron | golinux: I did that only out of curiousity. It went reasonably smoothly - but I did a clean install of Devuan jessie later anyway. | 03:32 |
Xenguy | I had a plan to upgrade from Jessie to Ascii, but ended up having to install Ascii directly | 03:33 |
Xenguy | Then things 'just worked' | 03:33 |
Hurgotron | Xenguy: Most issues seems to come from the 4.9 kernel. Like, non-booting because of HPA, missing disk, nonfunctional RAID. | 03:34 |
Xenguy | huh | 03:34 |
Xenguy | increased complexity = increased risk | 03:35 |
Hurgotron | most annoying was the grub2 menu shit. Just telling the fucking thing which kernel to boot should REALLY be more straight forward. | 03:38 |
booyah | and had nice security exploit with the backspace ;) | 03:42 |
booyah | (it was grub2 was it?) | 03:43 |
Leander | I also have the "Stopping remaining crypto disks ... busy" at shutdown, which lasts maybe 30 seconds, and always assumed that it was because my root filesystem is a LUKS volume, and the service trying to close it still has open files in that volume (hence a deadlock) | 04:22 |
Gup | so i've just updated a server from jessie to ascii, and all seems well, but sshd is giving me connection refused for 5 mins after boot, then it suddenly starts working, cant see much in logs, any clues? | 17:45 |
r3boot | check the files under /var/log, maybe sshd startup is waiting for something | 17:46 |
Gup | yeah I'm browsing the logs, first mention of ssh is "Server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 22." about 5 mins after boot | 17:49 |
Gup | is the normal on-screen boot messages logged anywhere? this is a headless server, i feel watching it boot would help, or even a log of that | 17:52 |
r3boot | Depends on how you configured it. Usually, all bootup messages will be saved in /var/log/messages. | 17:54 |
rwp | Gup, You say server... Can you see console messages at boot time? If you have bootlogd installed then boot time messages will be logged to /var/log/boot | 18:00 |
Gup | ahha bootlogd was not installed, is now, i'll reboot, think that may be the log i'm looking for :) | 18:01 |
rwp | I would also double check /etc/network/interfaces and double check the "auto" and "allow-hotplug" lines. | 18:02 |
Gup | network comes up fast, nginx starts serving the site | 18:02 |
rwp | Hmm... That's good anyway. | 18:03 |
Gup | hehe yeah ;) | 18:03 |
rwp | Just brainstorming here along with you... Might be that sshd is blocking waiting for dns trying to log your incoming IP address? | 18:03 |
Gup | no record of it in the logs, had that issue before, i think it hangs then after password is accepted | 18:05 |
Gup | logs say not even listening right away | 18:05 |
rwp | In that case check /etc/nsswitch.conf and see what is configured for accounts. | 18:05 |
Gup | just waiting to get back in ;) | 18:06 |
rwp | Do you have the ability to see the console while it boots? | 18:06 |
Gup | nope | 18:07 |
Gup | but /var/log/boot is very interesting :) | 18:07 |
Gup | i see timeouts and waiting | 18:07 |
rwp | Good deal! Hopefully the problem will become apparent now then. | 18:08 |
Gup | yeah thanks for the tip about bootlogd :) | 18:09 |
rwp | Glad I could help. | 18:10 |
nemo | is Beowulf pretty stable these days? | 19:55 |
nemo | I'm setting up a new laptop at work | 19:55 |
nemo | don't want to make my life *too* painful | 19:55 |
nemo | eh screwit. will stick w/ ascii | 19:58 |
KatolaZ | nemo: I have been using it for about 8 months now | 20:01 |
KatolaZ | if you need a full-featured desktop, with auto-mount and stuff like that, then it's better to hold your horses | 20:01 |
KatolaZ | and use ascii | 20:01 |
nemo | yeeeep | 20:01 |
nemo | also my coworker probably expects stuff like that | 20:02 |
nemo | crap | 20:40 |
nemo | isn't booting :/ | 20:40 |
* nemo runs through the installer again | 20:40 | |
nemo | tried both uefi and legacy, wasn't totally sure which one the devuan installer had picked | 20:41 |
nemo | guess I'll have to try manually installing bootloader | 20:41 |
nemo | should maybe just do legacy | 20:41 |
nemo | bet it's doing UEFI, and incorrectly | 20:41 |
nemo | ugh. I setup a grub_bios partition but does not seem to have gotten installed | 20:57 |
* nemo reboots into installer again | 20:57 | |
nemo | guess I should just manually setup grub myself | 20:57 |
fsmithred | time check | 21:17 |
fsmithred | nemo, are you still here? | 21:17 |
mchasard | hi | 22:01 |
mchasard | someone has already try to install crowz a derivative devuan | 22:01 |
mchasard | with virtualbox no problem but try to install via usblive and it doesnt work its like it doesnt find the cd installer | 22:02 |
mchasard | wheni begin to install | 22:02 |
tomekdev | Hello all! After finally getting my brightness buttons fixed (not an ACPI issue) I have another, bigger problem. Too high RAM usage | 22:08 |
tomekdev | On Devuan Jessie with kernel 3.16 I could run Blender and my scene without any total system hangs | 22:09 |
tomekdev | On Ascii rendering single frame causes system freeze | 22:10 |
nemo | guess I missed fsmithred | 22:39 |
nemo | but I'm not near the laptop right now anyway | 22:39 |
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