armin | http://m2m.pm/2018-12-08-040458_1366x768_scrot.png | 04:05 |
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armin | just making music on an 8 years old thinkpad x220 | 04:06 |
Xenguy | has it been that long then? | 04:56 |
Xenguy | armin: is that a XFCE desktop? | 04:58 |
Xenguy | In the screenshot I mean | 04:58 |
armin | Xenguy: yup | 06:31 |
rwp | Cool armin! I am using my beloved x220 to type this right now. :-) | 06:45 |
armin | rwp: :D | 06:52 |
armin | x220 is love, x220 is life | 06:52 |
armin | even though this machine is slowly but surely falling apart, it's still very valuable as a music making machine | 06:53 |
rwp | Mine is still in quite good shape. However it is my daily driver. I carry it in my backpack daily. And that does take a toll on any machine. | 06:55 |
armin | rwp: too true. | 06:55 |
rwp | It has the best keyboard of any of my Thinkpads. Which is one of the reasons I am still using it. I *love* the keyboard. | 06:55 |
armin | rwp: on mine the fan is making noise, according to my girlfriend - i can hardly notice it | 06:56 |
rwp | I have replaced my fan already. Moving parts. Bearings wear out. Replacing fans on old laptops is often required. Simple task easily and cheaply done. | 06:56 |
armin | :D | 06:57 |
armin | i would have to replace the whole heatpipe i assume | 06:57 |
rwp | Not required. Just the fan itself. Don't bend the heat pipe taking it off and on and it will be okay. | 06:58 |
rwp | On the other hand if one does squash the pipe the entire assembly isn't expensive either. Since these are aged machines and broken machines for parts are readily available. | 06:58 |
rwp | I am trying to remember if the x220 has the fan on the bottom requiring removing the motherboard first or not. The x201 I remember needs that. | 06:59 |
rwp | There are guides with photos available on the net. Working carefully through it should be possible with a little patience. | 07:00 |
rwp | Having a small (emphasis small) amount of heat sink paste for the assembly might be needed. | 07:01 |
rwp | The metal tape around the fan and the heat sink I have ever been able to remove and reuse without crinkling. But no one will ever see it. A little crinkle there is okay and won't hurt anything. | 07:01 |
rwp | The real professionals refurbishing that I am sure will use new metal tape there. | 07:02 |
decent-username | hi, I'm trying to install devuan on my raspberry pi 3. I used the devuan_ascii_2.0.0_arm64_raspi3.img and I need to log in with the stock user account. The question is: What username and password are used for the user? | 10:33 |
buZz | oh damn, what was it again | 10:35 |
buZz | i dont think there s any user account on it though | 10:35 |
buZz | decent-username: user 'root' , password 'toor' ? | 10:35 |
decent-username | #1 | 10:36 |
decent-username | thank you | 10:36 |
man_in_shack | ^ | 10:36 |
buZz | o/ | 10:36 |
buZz | decent-username: first hit on https://searx.me/search?q=devuan+embedded+root+password | 10:36 |
buZz | (so you learn how to find this yourself in the future) | 10:36 |
decent-username | > . < | 10:36 |
buZz | no offense | 10:36 |
decent-username | aye sir | 10:36 |
KatolaZ | decent-username: devuan:devuan | 10:43 |
KatolaZ | decent-username: root:toor | 10:43 |
KatolaZ | it's in the README.txt | 10:44 |
KatolaZ | no need to search anywhere | 10:44 |
djph | o/ | 12:25 |
buZz | \o | 12:26 |
buZz | djph: wanna see my new exciting monitor? | 12:26 |
buZz | the one on the right ; https://i.imgur.com/6EE4CHP.jpg | 12:26 |
buZz | official site ; https://www.lg.com/us/mobile-accessories/lg-LGR100AVRZTS-360-vr | 12:26 |
djph | nice | 12:26 |
buZz | its stupid cheap, like 70% discounted from that price on the lg.com link | 12:27 |
buZz | and just 'normal' usb-c altmode displayport | 12:27 |
buZz | now just need to add a 'thunderbolt' card to pc so i can actually use it :P | 12:28 |
Wonka | does a thunderbolt 3 card help there, or would you need to have a graphics card that can output via usb-c dp altmode? | 12:37 |
buZz | Wonka: check this card ; https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GC-ALPINE-RIDGE-rev-10#ov | 12:37 |
buZz | you loop-back DP from the GPU into that | 12:37 |
buZz | i've looked a bit, but didnt see any graphics card with usb-c | 12:38 |
buZz | just on laptops | 12:38 |
Wonka | buZz: aaah, that's clever | 12:38 |
buZz | uhuh, its just intel's reference design afaik | 12:39 |
buZz | although the way cheaper 'intel oem' version of that card , doesnt have DP ports -_- | 12:39 |
premoboss | weird. i add my user to dialout group (sudo usermod -a -G dialout my_user). commnad 'groups my_user' report that my_user is member of dialout. but if being my_user i try to do 'minicom' i get message 'canot open /dev/ttyUSBO: Access denied'. Of course if i do being root all works good. | 17:07 |
premoboss | mmm error came from GUI, in CLI (ctrl-alt-f1) all goes ok with my_user. MAybe i must logoff/logon | 17:09 |
djph | did you logout/login | 17:10 |
ErRandir | or call newgrp dialout | 17:11 |
premoboss | ErRandir, done. thanks. | 17:12 |
premoboss | djph, ErRandir gave the faster solution. | 17:13 |
djph | indeed. | 17:13 |
rwp | premoboss, Groups are assigned at time of login. Which was why djph suggested logging out and back in again. newgrp is changes the primary group, which works, but has the side effect of changing the primary group. | 18:55 |
premoboss | rwp, thanks for clarification. | 19:00 |
rwp | newgrp is one of those commands that people often try to put in scripts too. | 19:02 |
rwp | Which does not work as people often think. Because newgrp stacks a new shell and in a script means that execution appears to stop there. | 19:02 |
rwp | The original best practices for using newgrp were always to use exec to exec newgrp replacing the current shell with the new one. | 19:03 |
rwp | Just the same as one would exec login to replace the current session with a new one. | 19:03 |
rwp | But again in scripts that pretty much stops the execution. | 19:03 |
Guest21 | There was a prolem with the installer's auto-partitioner. I have a root partition that's only 6GB. It fills too quickly | 20:54 |
Guest21 | There are also several issues with the upgrade to ASCII that also seem to be partially reported in Debian's bug report repo. I do not know how to rectify these things. They seem to be in issue with Tor primarily, all of them seeming permission errors. There was also an issue with X1 | 20:55 |
Guest21 | X11 | 20:55 |
Guest21 | As usual there's no onbe here and my email is STILL banned from the ML | 20:56 |
rwp | 6G should be plenty for a root partition. What directory is filling up there? | 21:04 |
rwp | Guest21, ^^ I suspect either /var/log or /var/cache/apt. If /var/cache/apt from collected up downloads then 'apt-get clean' will empty it. | 21:04 |
Guest21 | It seems that primarily it is /var/backups and alt-language documentation (Due to me internationalizing my system, apt downloads every translation). | 21:04 |
Guest21 | Using bleachbit removes the alt-language documentaiton | 21:05 |
Guest21 | I just manually deleted the /var/backups and gained 2GB | 21:05 |
Guest21 | I'm unsure if that was wise | 21:05 |
rwp | My /var/backups on a very active system with additional mysql backup dumps there is only 12M in size. | 21:05 |
rwp | du -sh /var/backups and tell us the amount there please. :-) | 21:05 |
Guest21 | Also [and this is due to my own error] my Encrypted Swap partition is glitchy | 21:06 |
Guest21 | I just deleted | 21:06 |
Guest21 | This keeps happening, apt fails and reports "No space left on device" | 21:06 |
rwp | What does "df -h /" report? | 21:06 |
Guest21 | There are so many errors, I don't know if this is a broken install or not | 21:07 |
rwp | Note that if a process is actively writing to a file, and that file is removed from the directory, that does not free up the disk space. | 21:07 |
Guest21 | Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on/dev/dm-1 ext4 6.3G 6.3G 0 100% / | 21:07 |
Guest21 | This may be due to my own error. After upgrading to ASCII, there was an error I was trying to rectify. I thought the problem was cryptoluks/LVM so I edited these files and was unable to fully restore them after the fact | 21:08 |
Guest21 | I know that my swap is invalid due to this, but I can boot and access things correctly. It fills up frequently though | 21:09 |
Guest21 | I don't know how to rectify this. I thought initially the "No Space Left" error was due to international translations being downloaded for all new files | 21:09 |
Guest21 | Er, programs | 21:09 |
rwp | Is your swap enabled? 'free -h' will show this information. | 21:10 |
Guest21 | Do you have a solution, rwp | 21:10 |
Guest21 | total used free shared buff/cache availableMem: 11G 771M 10G 28M 612M 10GSwap: 0B 0B 0B | 21:10 |
rwp | I suggest finding what directory is filling up your disk. | 21:10 |
Guest21 | Is there a quick way to discover that, or do I have to hunt for that in mc | 21:10 |
rwp | That shows that swap is not enabled. Which if you say it is having problems that is what you want. Until you can fix your swap problems. But disk space first. | 21:10 |
rwp | du -sx --exclude /proc --exclude /sys --exclude /dev /* | 21:11 |
Guest21 | It appears that /etc/alternatives is large | 21:11 |
rwp | That should give a listing of how much disk space is in each directory. | 21:11 |
Guest21 | Running | 21:11 |
rwp | Please don't paste that output back into the channel though. | 21:11 |
Guest21 | Now it's hung | 21:11 |
rwp | Patience. It is just still running. | 21:11 |
rwp | !paste | 21:12 |
infobot | hmm... paste is http://pastebin.org/ or http://bin.cakephp.org/ or http://pastebin.ca/ | 21:12 |
Guest21 | Well, /usr is the largest directory at 5.5GB | 21:12 |
rwp | Good progress. Now look there for the next level of fill. | 21:12 |
rwp | du -sx --exclude /proc --exclude /sys --exclude /dev /usr/* | 21:12 |
rwp | du -sx /usr/* | 21:13 |
rwp | I guess I don't need to exclude those things that are not in /usr. :-) | 21:13 |
rwp | There is also a good tool called 'ncdu' which does this nicer. But you can't install it until you have free space. | 21:13 |
golinux | <rwp> 6G should be plenty for a root partition. | 21:13 |
rwp | Just mentioning it for later as it is a nice disk space chase down where it is going tool. | 21:13 |
Guest21 | Well, /usr/share is at 2.1G with /usr/lib at 2.5GB | 21:13 |
rwp | Hmm... | 21:14 |
rwp | Yes golinux most agreed here. So trying to chase down where the space has gone. | 21:14 |
golinux | I always use 20GB root because I have some apps that use /tmp heavily | 21:14 |
golinux | rwp: Now you have where OI was going with your quote | 21:14 |
rwp | Guest21, Have you installed anything quite large that would have filled up the disk just normally? Such as 0AD or other large package? | 21:15 |
rwp | You can refresh your memory by looking at "less /var/log/dpkg.log" and seeing what got installed recently. | 21:16 |
golinux | libreoffice is a pig | 21:16 |
rwp | Looking at my /usr on a desktop I see I have 5.4G consumed. du -sh /usr | 21:16 |
rwp | Guest21, If you have then I suggest backing that out. | 21:17 |
Guest22 | I am back. Damn connection errors | 21:18 |
rwp | Since apt is not happy being out of disk space might have to manually select a leafe package and use "dpkg --purge packagename" to remove the package, lowest dependency first, in order to get enough disk space for apt to be working again. | 21:18 |
rwp | What did you miss Guest21? Need any repeats? | 21:18 |
golinux | My / is using 16.6gb of 20 | 21:19 |
Guest22 | Yes, I d/c'd when I had posted that it is /usr/share and /usr/lib to blame | 21:19 |
rwp | Okay. My /usr on a desktop is 5.4G so maybe you installed something big recently? 0AD or other large package? | 21:19 |
rwp | You can refresh your memory by looking at "less /var/log/dpkg.log" and seeing what got installed recently. | 21:19 |
rwp | I think you will need to select some extra stuff recently installed and remove it. | 21:20 |
rwp | Probably need to use dpkg if apt does not have enough disk space to work properly. | 21:20 |
Guest22 | This log only contains today since bleachbit delets the log | 21:20 |
Guest22 | I have installed the Linux-Libre kernel | 21:20 |
Guest22 | That's about it | 21:20 |
rwp | Ah... I think using bleachbit may have removed the trail of evidence of how we got here. | 21:21 |
Guest22 | Well, what do you recommend now | 21:21 |
rwp | Let me suggest digging a little more then. du -sx /usr/share/* | sort -n | 21:21 |
rwp | What is the largest directories that appear at the bottom? Hoping it will indicate some particular package that can be removed. | 21:22 |
rwp | Same question for du -sx /usr/lib/* | sort -n | 21:22 |
Guest22 | Largest three directories are automake-1.15, gtksourceview-2.0 and help | 21:22 |
rwp | My initial goal would be to get enough disk space back for you that apt will work okay so that then further progress may be made. | 21:23 |
Guest22 | In /usr/lib | 21:23 |
Guest22 | gbrainy, libgettextlib..., and openssh | 21:23 |
rwp | Hmm.. My /usr/share/automake-1.15 directory is 1000 blocks and far from my largest consumer there. | 21:24 |
Guest22 | All these directories are Kb small | 21:24 |
Guest22 | 1020K for the help directory | 21:24 |
Guest22 | 880K for Openssh | 21:24 |
rwp | Curious. I was hoping for and expecting to see something like libreoffice wihch is really large and could be removed to free up a ton of space. | 21:25 |
Guest22 | I use LibreOffice | 21:25 |
rwp | None of what I am suggesting is a permanent change of lifestyle. Just something to get your system to a free enough disk space state that further fixes can be applied. | 21:26 |
Guest22 | yeah | 21:26 |
Guest22 | uh | 21:26 |
Guest22 | I'll try to remove libreoffice | 21:26 |
Guest22 | Oh great | 21:26 |
Guest22 | I can't | 21:26 |
rwp | If libreoffice was installed then it should have been one of the largest directories in /usr/lib/libreoffice | 21:26 |
Guest22 | Apt is hung due to the two upgrade packages I can't install. | 21:26 |
Guest22 | It is installed though | 21:27 |
Guest22 | I just opneend it to make sure | 21:27 |
rwp | Expected when apt is not happy. I think you will need to use dpkg to remove it. | 21:27 |
Guest22 | How do I remove it with dpkg? I've only installed and reconfigured using dpkg | 21:27 |
rwp | golinux, Any simple suggestions? I can only give a rather complex pipeline of commands to get libreoffice removed. | 21:29 |
rwp | If golinux does not have a better idea then I suggest: dpkg --dry-run --purge $(dpkg -l | awk '/libreoffice/{print$2}') | 21:30 |
Guest22 | Oh wait | 21:30 |
rwp | Remove the --dry-run if you think the output is doing what it should be doing. | 21:30 |
Guest22 | wait | 21:30 |
Guest22 | rwp, the command you gave me did not sort them by size | 21:30 |
Guest22 | du -sx /usr/share/* | sort -n | 21:30 |
Guest22 | This is mismatched | 21:30 |
Guest22 | Why is this, I don't understand. sort -n is the right command, yes? | 21:31 |
rwp | That command works well for me. I did try it before I suggested it. | 21:31 |
rwp | But perhaps LC_ALL=C needs to (temporarily) be set to force a standard sorting locale? | 21:31 |
rwp | And the -n is the old way too. Should get with the new way and use -k1,1n instead. Try this: | 21:32 |
Guest22 | It's sorted by number, but not by value | 21:32 |
rwp | du -sx /usr/share/* | env LC_ALL=C sort -k1,1n | 21:32 |
Guest22 | it goes 116K, 117M, 121M, 128K | 21:32 |
rwp | Wait... huh? number is value? Let me show you want I am seeing | 21:32 |
rwp | Did you add -h to the du option list? | 21:33 |
Guest22 | Same thing | 21:33 |
Guest22 | No | 21:33 |
Guest22 | du -sx /usr/share/* | sort -n | 21:33 |
rwp | env -i du -sx /usr/share/* | env LC_ALL=C sort -k1,1n | 21:33 |
Guest22 | There we go | 21:34 |
rwp | Please try running the du with 'env -i' to initialize to an empty environment. Thinking there is an environment variable setting du human readable size. | 21:34 |
Guest22 | Four giant directories | 21:34 |
rwp | Or perhaps you have an alias for du set. Either way using 'env cmd' is an idiom to avoid aliases and -i initiallizes to strip the environment. Useful for cases like this. | 21:35 |
Guest22 | I am going to upload to a tempsender | 21:35 |
Guest22 | http://ix.io/1vyP | 21:35 |
rwp | To look for an alias: alias du | 21:35 |
Guest22 | This is /usr/lib http://ix.io/1vyQ | 21:35 |
rwp | The /usr/share/AAVMF is associated with qemu-efi | 21:37 |
rwp | You might look down into /usr/share/games to see what is the big pigs there. | 21:37 |
rwp | The libreoffice is still the easiest low hanging fruit to pick to free up significant disk space. | 21:37 |
rwp | dpkg --dry-run --purge $(dpkg -l | awk '/libreoffice/{print$2}') | 21:37 |
rwp | If the output of that dry-run looks okay then remove the --dry-run option and it should run for real and remove libreoffice freeing up that disk space. | 21:38 |
rwp | That should get apt to the point that you can run this to get apt into a happy state: apt-get install -f | 21:38 |
Guest22 | Your command reports several dependency errors | 21:38 |
rwp | Can you pastebin them? | 21:39 |
Guest22 | Supertuxkart and supertux2 | 21:39 |
Guest22 | Are the big ones in the games directory | 21:39 |
rwp | Ah yes lots of image data there. Then those might be good ones to try to remove first. | 21:39 |
Guest22 | So dpkg --purge supertuxkart | 21:40 |
rwp | (I recently cloned and compiled supertuxkart and it was quite large.) | 21:40 |
rwp | Yes. Did that work? | 21:40 |
Guest22 | Removing | 21:40 |
Guest22 | yep | 21:40 |
Guest22 | Shuld I remove supertux too? | 21:40 |
rwp | Disk space available now? df -h / | 21:41 |
Guest22 | There | 21:41 |
Guest22 | removed | 21:41 |
Guest22 | Still reports 100% used | 21:41 |
Guest22 | [13:40 root@lappy se7en] > df -h /Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on/dev/dm-1 ext4 6.3G 6.3G 0 100% / | 21:41 |
rwp | dpkg -l | grep tux | 21:41 |
rwp | Any other associated packages that might need to be removed? | 21:41 |
rwp | supertuxkart-data for example? | 21:42 |
Guest22 | I did | 21:42 |
Guest22 | I removed that | 21:42 |
Guest22 | Wait, one left | 21:43 |
Guest22 | /dev/dm-1 ext4 6.3G 5.6G 445M 93% / | 21:43 |
rwp | It is a slim lead but perhaps enough! | 21:43 |
Guest22 | So run apt -f instlal now? | 21:44 |
rwp | If you look again is it filling up as we speak? (Sometimes programs are still running and trying to write and then fill up the disk again.) | 21:44 |
Guest22 | Yes, it worked | 21:44 |
Guest22 | I ran `apt -f install` and gives the same reading | 21:44 |
Guest22 | No change | 21:44 |
rwp | I don't know "apt" very well but "apt-get install -f" is the fix command there. But there is an equiv with "apt" and the others (aptitude) too. | 21:44 |
Guest22 | Well, it's the same here | 21:45 |
rwp | The "install -f" is the fix what is listed broken command. | 21:45 |
Guest22 | It installed the two packages | 21:45 |
rwp | If it installed them then something is pulling them in again. | 21:45 |
Guest22 | I am going to attempt to run `apt full-upgrade` | 21:45 |
rwp | Won't be any worse than now. So might as well. | 21:46 |
rwp | Just note that being persistent and working carefully through it will solve the problem. | 21:46 |
Guest22 | There is a kernel upgrade in query | 21:46 |
Guest22 | Well, after this complets what do you suggest I do now | 21:47 |
rwp | If it were me I would still remove libreoffice too to make more space. | 21:48 |
Guest22 | rwp | 21:48 |
rwp | Tell me about the rest of your environment. You said 6G for root. Is this LVM? Or hard partitions? Is there free disk space elsewhere? | 21:49 |
Guest22 | It is an encrypted LVM with seprate /, /tmp, /home, and /var | 21:49 |
Guest22 | Using the guided partitioner on Devuan Jessie Final | 21:49 |
rwp | So I assume all free space was allocated to /home? Nothing left? 'vgs' | 21:50 |
rwp | If free space existed then you could lvextend your root partition to make it bigger. | 21:51 |
Guest22 | VG #PV #LV #SN Attr VSize VFree lappy-vg 1 5 0 wz--n- 465.02g 0 | 21:51 |
rwp | Right. No free space. If not then there is always the possibility to make free space but... | 21:51 |
rwp | *I* would be inclined to take a big directory like /usr/share and copy it into /home/share and then remove and symlink there. | 21:52 |
Guest22 | Idk | 21:52 |
rwp | Not sure that would be generally recommended. But it is okay to relocate /usr dirs to /home so that it frees up space. | 21:52 |
Guest22 | I'd rather fix it right | 21:52 |
rwp | How much used space in /home? | 21:52 |
Guest22 | /dev/mapper/lappy--vg-home ext4 425G 94G 311G 24% /home | 21:53 |
rwp | Lots of available space there. Good. | 21:53 |
rwp | Another suggestion I might make would be to backup /home onto another safe location. I see 94G listed there. Significant. Then completely remove it and free it up into the volume group. Then extend the root partition. Then put /home back into the smaller size of it. | 21:54 |
Guest22 | That takes a bit of effort | 21:54 |
rwp | Well... yes... I see no completely trivial solutions here. | 21:55 |
Guest22 | hmm | 21:55 |
rwp | Doing the copy of /usr/share to /home/share and symlinking it would be relatively simple and painless. But it would be a special hack just for you. It would work well long term. But you couldn't forget you had done it. | 21:55 |
Guest22 | I know | 21:56 |
Guest22 | I may resort to that | 21:56 |
Guest22 | There are other errors too though | 21:56 |
Guest22 | For example, tor | 21:56 |
Guest22 | I am unable to binf tor ro 127.0.0.1:9050 despite nothing using this port | 21:56 |
rwp | I don't think there is any bad boot time interaction that requires /usr/share mounted. You know the entire boot time bootstrap order of needing /usr mounted and all of that. | 21:56 |
Guest22 | And running things through torify often cause them to no longer work | 21:56 |
djph | boot only "needs" /, /bin, and possibly /sbin | 21:57 |
Guest22 | hmm | 21:57 |
rwp | I don't think running out of disk space directly is the cause of the bind to that port error. That is probably an associated cascade failure though. | 21:57 |
Guest22 | I just don't want an ugly hack like that symlink idea | 21:57 |
rwp | I understand. | 21:58 |
rwp | Just trying to present possible solutions given the problem you have presented. | 21:58 |
Guest22 | golinux amI unbanned from the ML yet | 21:58 |
rwp | In the meantime I would try to make a little more disk space by seeing what other peripheral non-critical packages I could remove. | 21:59 |
rwp | And you said apt tried to reinstall the tuxkart ones after you had removed them. Thinking that apt may have them marked for install in some way. Unfamiliar with apt because I always use apt-get. | 21:59 |
Guest22 | I did not say that | 22:00 |
golinux | Guest22: Not yet. | 22:00 |
Guest22 | Alos, the tor error seems to be on debian-side too | 22:00 |
rwp | 13:45 < Guest22> It installed the two packages | 22:00 |
Guest22 | It's in their ML but no solution proposed | 22:00 |
Guest22 | I meant it installed the two packages awaiting in alt -f | 22:00 |
Guest22 | apt -f | 22:00 |
Guest22 | Which were perl packages | 22:01 |
rwp | Okay. Does that mean apt is now in a happy state for you and you have a little bit of disk space? | 22:01 |
* rwp got an urgent disk space alert for a system and needs to go check it... | 22:01 | |
Guest22 | At the present, yes | 22:02 |
golinux | Guest22: Sorry I got distracted with other stuff. If you post to DNG, I will release your technical questions. | 22:24 |
Guest22 | I can not at the moment | 22:24 |
Guest22 | I will in due time | 22:24 |
golinux | OK | 22:38 |
armin | :D | 23:15 |
golinux | armin: Still a happy Devuan user! | 23:16 |
armin | golinux: sure | 23:20 |
armin | golinux: made some music at night with the devuan laptop in bed | 23:20 |
armin | golinux: just for fun | 23:20 |
armin | golinux: heh | 23:20 |
golinux | :D | 23:22 |
armin | golinux: http://m2m.pm/2018-12-08-052227_1366x768_scrot.png | 23:34 |
armin | golinux: renoise really works perfectly to enable vintage computers to be music making machines | 23:35 |
buZz | sunvox is also cool | 23:35 |
armin | buZz: is your nickname related to the good old music tracker software? | 23:35 |
armin | oh yes sunvox looks cool, checking out | 23:36 |
buZz | it is not, just a abbreviation of my irl name :) | 23:37 |
buZz | the tracker software i used most was impulse tracker back in the day | 23:37 |
armin | buZz: interesting | 23:44 |
armin | buZz: anyways, just checked out sunvox, was able to create a very simple melody within minutes | 23:44 |
armin | buZz: not sure how the interface works, yet, as i'm a renoise user | 23:44 |
buZz | hehe yeah its pretty neat | 23:44 |
buZz | realize its a full modular synth though :) | 23:45 |
buZz | well, sorta | 23:45 |
armin | buZz: interesting | 23:45 |
se7en | Another weird error (I am Guest21) my CD drive randomly ejects | 23:56 |
se7en | Now when in function though | 23:57 |
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