| altker128 | Hey guys. Is there an LXC template for Devuan ASCII? | 01:54 |
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| golinux | altker128: https://git.devuan.org/explore/projects?utf8=✓&name=LXC&sort=latest_activity_desc | 02:03 |
| altker128 | golinux: Have you tried it? | 02:06 |
| golinux | altker128: No, I haven't. I'm just the librarian. | 02:32 |
| golinux | You might also search the forum. | 02:32 |
| altker128 | golinux: I tried it and it didn't work ; some issues around the base install | 02:42 |
| altker128 | (host was devuan as well) | 02:42 |
| golinux | Please register to the DNG mail list for help/ | 02:50 |
| golinux | There are also some LXC posts on the dev1galaxy forum. | 02:52 |
| golinux | You should be able to search there without registering. | 02:52 |
| golinux | though we would love to have you :) | 02:53 |
| altker128 | golinux: What is the "best" place to post any Devuan / LXC discussions? I basically re-formatted and went back to Debian since I'm under the gun | 03:02 |
| golinux | altker128: https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng and https://dev1galaxy.org/ | 03:08 |
| golinux | Sorry to hear you were having difficulty. | 03:08 |
| golinux | Are you on ascii? | 03:08 |
| altker128 | I was | 03:08 |
| altker128 | Yeah | 03:08 |
| altker128 | Brand new install | 03:08 |
| altker128 | real hardware | 03:08 |
| altker128 | Fast install, fast boot, liked the lack of systemd | 03:09 |
| golinux | Could have been as simple as incorrect sources. | 03:09 |
| golinux | We're you using deb.devuan.org? | 03:09 |
| altker128 | Yes | 03:09 |
| altker128 | I didn't do anything non-standard | 03:09 |
| altker128 | Devuan also failed to create a Debian container | 03:09 |
| altker128 | Because it was trying to mess with devuan-base-system or something | 03:09 |
| golinux | Well, that's not the repo that's on the iso so would have needed to be changed. | 03:10 |
| altker128 | Umm, isn't that a "bug" of the installer? | 03:10 |
| altker128 | I mean apt-get install worked | 03:10 |
| altker128 | (w/o the installation medium) | 03:10 |
| golinux | No. When we created the installer it was pkgmaster, | 03:10 |
| golinux | Then the round-robin was set up after that. | 03:11 |
| golinux | It's all in the release notes. | 03:11 |
| golinux | I'll get you a link. | 03:11 |
| altker128 | OK. I'll try to re-visit this later. Doing the same thing with Debian Stretch, it's off and running | 03:11 |
| altker128 | no changes to apt sources, etc. | 03:11 |
| golinux | Could be a systemd dep too. | 03:11 |
| altker128 | Well, I mean, trying to create a Linux container that's either Debian or Devuan should work if I'm using the packaged stuff | 03:12 |
| golinux | https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/Release_notes.txt | 03:12 |
| golinux | There is a lot available it seems: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/d1pkgweb-query?search=lxc&release=ascii | 03:13 |
| golinux | In all releases actually. | 03:14 |
| altker128 | Yes, I installed lxc, it installs. The issue is when trying to create the container | 03:14 |
| altker128 | It fails during the creation process | 03:14 |
| golinux | It should work. But I have no experience with setting up containers. | 03:15 |
| altker128 | With either Debian or Devuan as the container OS | 03:15 |
| golinux | Do post and ask for solutions. | 03:15 |
| chain | I have a strange request - could someone please install stterm and see if they have the same problem I do in mc? | 03:32 |
| chain | I tested this in virtualbox, and on real hardware, and I'm not sure it's just my bad luck or an actual problem with something devuan related. | 03:33 |
| Xenguy | chain: Sure, I'll try it | 03:39 |
| chain | Xenguy: thanks! | 03:39 |
| chain | you'll need to install mc and stterm, afterwards start stterm and open midnight commander in stterm | 03:40 |
| Xenguy | chain: Confirmed, there is some kind of bug that limits output to 1 in 3, or w/e... | 03:41 |
| Xenguy | But where does the problem really lay? | 03:41 |
| chain | I have no clue | 03:41 |
| chain | I've tried different versions of mc and stterm | 03:41 |
| chain | I've built the latest version of st from source | 03:42 |
| chain | nothing that I've tried works | 03:42 |
| Xenguy | (I'm on Ascii BTW) | 03:42 |
| Xenguy | I suspect st | 03:43 |
| Xenguy | brb | 03:43 |
| chain | sorry, dc | 03:45 |
| chain | mc does seem to read every input, but only redraws on every third keypress | 03:45 |
| Xenguy | chain: Yes, I tested mc, and was only tracking output-on-keypress | 03:47 |
| Xenguy | What is 'dc'? | 03:48 |
| chain | I got disconnected | 03:48 |
| Xenguy | 21:48 -!- chain [~chain@46.19.140.18] has quit [Killed (asimov.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] | 03:48 |
| Xenguy | OK gotcha | 03:49 |
| chain | I don't know how to further investigate this issue. | 03:50 |
| Xenguy | Not sure what to suggest exactly. If mc works fine in other terminal emulators, then I suppose that points the finger at stterm | 03:50 |
| Xenguy | So there's a bug somewhere | 03:51 |
| chain | St is very simple. I'm not saying it doesn't have any bugs, but I think it's more likely that the problem lies somewhere else. Maybe X libraries? | 03:53 |
| Xenguy | No idea | 03:54 |
| chain | and if st was the problem then the same combination of st + mc on other distros would give me the same problem right? | 03:54 |
| Xenguy | Are you suggesting it only happens on Devuan, or ...? | 03:55 |
| chain | Yes, so far only on Devuan | 03:55 |
| Xenguy | Have you tried Debian then? | 03:55 |
| chain | nope | 03:57 |
| Xenguy | That seems to be the next logical step | 03:57 |
| chain | I will do that tomorrow then | 03:57 |
| Xenguy | Good luck | 03:58 |
| chain | Thanks! | 03:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2018/12/if-your-privacy-is-the-hands-of-others-alone-you-dont-have-any/ | 05:12 |
| chain | hello! | 13:29 |
| debdog | that's just a rumor! | 13:30 |
| chain | Xenguy: I just tested stterm on debian stretch, and there's no problem there. | 13:34 |
| jyri | chain: Devuan ceres | 15:31 |
| jyri | ii mc 3:4.8.21-1 amd64 Midnight Commander - a powerful fil | 15:31 |
| jyri | ii stterm 0.6-1 amd64 suckless tools simple terminal for | 15:31 |
| jyri | no problems | 15:32 |
| chain | jyri: sorry I got disconnected. What about mc and stterm packages on Devuan ceres? | 15:50 |
| jyri | no problems with MC on running inside stterm on Ceres | 15:52 |
| chain | that's interesting, I've updated mc and stterm using Ceres repos, but that didn't help | 15:53 |
| chain | there must be some other package that's changed in Ceres that fixes this | 15:53 |
| HumanGeek | hello there is backport repo for devuan or we should use the debian one | 15:57 |
| HumanGeek | ? | 15:58 |
| jyri | chain: stterm depends https://pastebin.com/7hw2hvsw | 15:58 |
| jyri | mv depends https://pastebin.com/dj6VYCg8 | 15:59 |
| jyri | s/mv/mc/ | 16:00 |
| chain | I suspec either libxft or libx11 | 16:01 |
| chain | I'll try upgrading those packages first to see if that helps | 16:01 |
| chain | Thanks jyri | 16:01 |
| jyri | np :) | 16:01 |
| chain | I've upgraded all direct deps to the ceres versions, and it still doesn't work | 16:10 |
| chain | I just upgraded xserver-xorg-core along with all deps, and it still didn't fix the problem | 16:18 |
| jyri | hmm | 16:25 |
| jyri | well, I got to go now but I'll see if I have some time later | 16:26 |
| armin | so i've just been reading in some other chanel that debian wants to remove packages that has the words master or slave in their name because CoC. | 21:11 |
| armin | anyone knows anything further about this? | 21:11 |
| golinux | Thankfully Devuan is free from that bullshit. | 21:14 |
| muep | at least I have not heard of removals of existing packages with slave or master in their names | 21:15 |
| muep | there's quite a few of them, especially with master. does not sound plausible to me that they would be removing those anytime soon even if there was a will | 21:16 |
| armin | i can't really believe it so to say... | 21:16 |
| armin | what's next? people being reminded of dicks when they apt search autoconf? | 21:18 |
| armin | autoconf-dickey/unstable,unstable 2.52+20181006-1 all | 21:18 |
| armin | automatic configure script builder (Thomas Dickey's version) | 21:18 |
| armin | also let's just remove cockroachdb because gender. | 21:19 |
| muep | no because there's an obvious non-male-genital reason for the package to have "dickey" in the name | 21:19 |
| armin | :D | 21:19 |
| armin | let's see what freebsd does about bitchx-1.2.1_1,1 | 21:20 |
| muep | recently there has been this https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=907199 but the reason is not just the package name | 21:20 |
| MinceR | unfortunately devuan still relies a lot on debian packages | 21:21 |
| KatolaZ | MinceR: do you have an alternative? | 21:21 |
| MinceR | not really | 21:22 |
| muep | hm, I think it is this bug that has more details on the reasons https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=906119 | 21:22 |
| MinceR | i'm thinking of trying out some of the bsd-s since rh/ibm, the LDF and co. are driving GNU/Linux into the ground | 21:22 |
| KatolaZ | good | 21:22 |
| KatolaZ | nice personal choice | 21:23 |
| chain | KatolaZ: I'm trying to identify the cause of the issue I have with mc running inside stterm. It doesn't work on Ascii, but it's fine on Ceres, so I've been trying to upgrade some packages using the Ceres repos. So far I've upgraded stterm and all deps, as well as xorg, and it still doesn't work. | 23:37 |
| chain | Do you have any suggestions? | 23:37 |
| KatolaZ | chain: no clue sorry | 23:50 |
| KatolaZ | I am not using stterm | 23:51 |
| chain | Yeah, but you're way more familiar with devuan than I am | 23:54 |
| se7en | Ohai KatolaZ | 23:55 |
| se7en | when will setnet be put into repos? | 23:55 |
| se7en | Also, the new layout is a bit silly with the Quit button in the middle. I think it should be "Up", "Down", "Last" | 23:55 |
| se7en | s/Last/Quit/g | 23:56 |
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