| Xenguy | MinceR: If I were to try only one, it would be OpenBSD. | 03:22 |
|---|---|---|
| MinceR | it's on my list | 03:22 |
| Xenguy | I am biased in favor of the 'security' orientation | 03:23 |
| Xenguy | Nowadays I think security is paramount, to the extent it is even possible | 03:24 |
| Xenguy | Most of us are already boned with Intel ME | 03:24 |
| Xenguy | So there's that | 03:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.sonniesedge.co.uk/talks/dear-developer | 05:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and happy solstice everybody! | 05:36 |
| redrick | Happy Festivus. (God jul og godt nytt år.) | 05:39 |
| Xenguy | Is Saturnalia here yet? | 05:53 |
| golinux | Solstice is tomorrow! | 06:04 |
| rwp | Wishing you a happy whatever doesn't offend you! :-) | 06:26 |
| golinux | Depends on what the "whatever" is. | 06:29 |
| _abc_ | Hello. Reading about weboob.org being purged out of debian for name impoliteness reasons. Does pc cancer spread by upstream also automatically affect devuan? Does devuan have a policy on deviations from "we do free software which works", regardless of other (naming and not only) considerations? Do devuan users have to mainatain their own out of distribution package systems in case one of the "banned" | 08:16 |
| _abc_ | packages is removed by upstream? Imo debian is fast becoming a political enterprise kowtowing to something yet to be defined. | 08:16 |
| golinux | _abc_: This | 08:20 |
| golinux | Do devuan users have to maintain their own out of distribution package systems in case one of the "banned" | 08:21 |
| golinux | Or maintain them for Devuan. | 08:21 |
| _abc_ | I assume this is the official position and has been discussed before, right? | 08:22 |
| golinux | No. But if somebody wants a package that has been removed from Devuan, it's up to users to maintian it if they want it available. | 08:28 |
| golinux | I can't imagine anyone here would object. Heck! I'm female and think the whole uproar is ridiculous | 08:31 |
| golinux | Poor snowflakes | 08:31 |
| debdog | where did all the humor go to? | 08:43 |
| debdog | has there been an alien invasion? invisable aliens, feeding off human humor | 08:43 |
| debdog | *ible | 08:44 |
| terra | Anyone running sssd with Devuan? | 11:46 |
| r3boot | I run sssd with Debian, if that helps | 11:54 |
| terra | I'm trying to login via AD but never able to run SSSD properly. | 11:54 |
| r3boot | Why not? | 11:55 |
| terra | r3boot: did you follow any howto? I followed https://wiki.debian.org/AuthenticatingLinuxWithActiveDirectorySssd | 11:55 |
| r3boot | Not really, just read up on the docs, but I do have some 10+ years of experience with network-based authentication, so I've got a head start | 11:56 |
| r3boot | Did you check the logfiles for sssd? | 11:56 |
| r3boot | You might want to run sssd with -d 9 to turn on debugging. That'll give you information about the calls sssd will make to AD, and will likely tell you why it cannot authenticate | 11:57 |
| terra | I'm able to join domain but ssd service doesn't launch. It says "Becoming a daemon" but actually not. No any process. | 11:57 |
| r3boot | What happens if you run sssd from your terminal (as root)? | 11:58 |
| r3boot | (out for lunch btw) | 11:59 |
| terra | service doen't give any output. I get this on console with debug enabled (-d10) | 12:00 |
| terra | This is debug log: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kBC6bzNvpz/ | 12:19 |
| r3boot | terra: hrm, that all looks good, except for this line (and I'm not a 100% sure this is an issue btw): (Fri Dec 21 14:02:24:143632 2018) [sssd] [sss_ini_get_config] (0x0400): Using only main configuration file due to errors in merging | 12:48 |
| r3boot | terra: however, in that output, it looks like the process is daemonizing. Do you have a running sssd process once this command completes? | 12:49 |
| terra | r3boot: thanks for checking the log. Unfortunately there is no sssd process running. | 12:56 |
| r3boot | Hrm | 12:56 |
| terra | When I launch sssd with "-i" (interactive) it segfaults. | 12:56 |
| r3boot | You might want to run that trough strace then, to see why | 12:56 |
| r3boot | Eg, strace -f -o /tmp/strace.log /usr/sbin/sssd -d 9 -i | 12:57 |
| r3boot | (something like that) | 12:57 |
| r3boot | then, we should be able to see why the segfault happens, because that's what you want to fix | 12:57 |
| terra | r3boot: Unfortunately no useful info except "killed by SIGSERV" | 13:11 |
| terra | *SIGSEGV | 13:12 |
| r3boot | terra: Could you paste /tmp/strace.log? The -o parameter to strace will write all it's output to that file | 13:16 |
| r3boot | (and it'll be a *lot* of logging) | 13:16 |
| terra | r3boot: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/m2hkq3hyX9/ | 13:22 |
| r3boot | First thing I notice, the parameter you pass to sssd -d must be in the range of 0..9 | 13:22 |
| terra | ok, but output is same. | 13:28 |
| r3boot | Hmm, no cause to be seen in strace.log; There a 2 processes being started; The parent (pid 4152), which forks it's child (4153). Next, process 4153 waits for a timer event, and is killed b/c a segmentation fault | 13:28 |
| r3boot | just to check. This is devuan with all the latest updates installed right? | 13:29 |
| terra | yes | 13:29 |
| r3boot | Is there an additional security framework configured on top of this? (apparmor, selinux, etc) | 13:29 |
| terra | I have to notice that this is a nfs-root system | 13:29 |
| r3boot | Oh boy :) | 13:29 |
| terra | this is bare minimum devuan | 13:30 |
| r3boot | Is this the only issue you're experiencing on this setup? | 13:30 |
| terra | client boots via pxe. then mounts required partitions as tmpfs | 13:31 |
| r3boot | Thing is, I have worked with both nfs-roots and sssd, but never the combination via the two | 13:31 |
| terra | *required folders as /var/log /run etc. | 13:31 |
| terra | :) | 13:32 |
| r3boot | Hmm | 13:32 |
| r3boot | what about ulimit? Could it be that you, eg, have locked-in-memory or address space set to fixed (low) values? | 13:33 |
| terra | but /var/lib/sss is a disk partition in rw | 13:33 |
| terra | I don't think so because it is 69mb for now | 13:33 |
| terra | btw I launched desktop session + browser and memory rised up to 250mb ..result is same | 13:36 |
| armin | hi, i want to make my laptop suspend on lid close. i already tried this config with elogind, but to no avail: https://gist.github.com/71ec6cdc08bb31daf03544f99589509b | 14:15 |
| armin | any help much appreciated, ty | 14:15 |
| terra | armin: did you install pm-utils? | 14:41 |
| terra | maybe it uses pm-suspend command. | 14:42 |
| relo3 | Hello | 14:45 |
| relo3 | Do you guys know a way to make keyboards accents work? | 14:46 |
| relo3 | I make use of both English and Portuguese layouts. | 14:46 |
| relo3 | After adding the second language through the xfce options, it doesn't places them over the letter, but beforehand. | 14:47 |
| salsbury | hi relo3 | 14:53 |
| salsbury | I also use PT keyboard | 14:53 |
| salsbury | which layout are you using? | 14:54 |
| salsbury | Portugues (No dead keys)? | 14:54 |
| salsbury | I think I remember doing exactly that once, but it was either because of the compose key (which should not be set) or the dead keys layout | 14:57 |
| salsbury | which is no good | 14:57 |
| relo3 | I tried all of them, none worked. Right now, it's set to "Portuguese (Brazil)". | 14:59 |
| salsbury | you want pt-pt or pt-br? | 15:00 |
| relo3 | pt-br | 15:00 |
| salsbury | ok | 15:01 |
| relo3 | The versin: Esperanto (Portuguese, Nativo), is the closest to my layout. | 15:01 |
| salsbury | do you have any compose keys set? | 15:01 |
| relo3 | No | 15:02 |
| salsbury | I believe the Portuguese (Brazil) is just fine | 15:02 |
| salsbury | what's the keyboard module you've set? | 15:02 |
| salsbury | generic 105-intl? | 15:02 |
| salsbury | "Generic 105-key (Intl) PC" to be precise | 15:03 |
| salsbury | sorry | 15:04 |
| salsbury | keyboard MODEL not module | 15:04 |
| salsbury | haven't had my coffee yet | 15:04 |
| salsbury | :D | 15:04 |
| relo3 | I tried this one, then I changed to one which seemed more close to my device: Dell Laptop/notebook Inspiron 6xxx/8xxx | 15:05 |
| salsbury | I've got an asus laptop with the generic 105-key set | 15:06 |
| salsbury | I'd recommend you try the generic ones instead of using a model-specific one, specially if it's not your model series | 15:07 |
| relo3 | Just switched to that one, the issue remains. | 15:09 |
| salsbury | ok | 15:09 |
| relo3 | U have not had lunch yet (me neither)? | 15:09 |
| salsbury | lunch, yeah it's about time... :) | 15:10 |
| relo3 | Indeed | 15:10 |
| salsbury | so, do you have another layout set? like english? | 15:10 |
| relo3 | Yup, english and portuguese. | 15:10 |
| salsbury | is english above portuguese? | 15:11 |
| relo3 | Yes | 15:11 |
| salsbury | it should be below | 15:11 |
| salsbury | but I've noticed that to make sure the correct layout is loaded it's best to delete the other (in this case, english) layout to force xfce to set the one we want. after that you can add the english layout again if you want | 15:12 |
| relo3 | I did it some minutes ago, didn't work. | 15:13 |
| salsbury | what, dele the english one? | 15:13 |
| salsbury | delete* | 15:13 |
| relo3 | Exactly | 15:13 |
| salsbury | ohh bugger... | 15:13 |
| salsbury | I'm running out of ideas here | 15:13 |
| salsbury | :/ | 15:13 |
| salsbury | wait | 15:14 |
| salsbury | logout and login again | 15:14 |
| relo3 | Also, english is my default keyboard. I only use the pt version occasionally. | 15:14 |
| relo3 | Hm | 15:14 |
| relo3 | I will try it. | 15:14 |
| relo3 | Nope | 15:21 |
| relo3 | Didn't work. | 15:21 |
| relo3 | I tried rebooting too. | 15:21 |
| salsbury | that's weird | 15:22 |
| salsbury | but, wait | 15:22 |
| salsbury | so your keyboard has a US layout is that it? | 15:22 |
| salsbury | no ç or ´ ~ | 15:23 |
| relo3 | Not really. The keyboard is a portuguese one, but I spend most of the time using the english layout. | 15:23 |
| salsbury | oh ok | 15:24 |
| relo3 | That's why when I installed, the first added language was english. | 15:24 |
| salsbury | can you write a ç ? | 15:24 |
| relo3 | yup | 15:24 |
| relo3 | linguiça fritaaaaaa | 15:26 |
| salsbury | ahahahahah | 15:26 |
| relo3 | Let's eat man. | 15:26 |
| salsbury | I dunno man, this is what I've got: https://i.imgur.com/fVg27N1.png | 15:27 |
| salsbury | and frankly, I'm not very experienced with keyboard setups over the command line | 15:27 |
| salsbury | I'd eat some linguiça right now though :3 | 15:28 |
| relo3 | Mine: https://i.postimg.cc/XJD0CRpf/Screenshot-2018-12-21-12-29-56.png | 15:31 |
| salsbury | hmmm | 15:31 |
| relo3 | I'll be back. | 15:32 |
| salsbury | try removing the "Change layout option" to nothing | 15:32 |
| salsbury | sure | 15:32 |
| salsbury | cya | 15:32 |
| salsbury | and put portuguese on top | 15:32 |
| salsbury | even if you use the english one most of the time | 15:33 |
| armin | terra: i have that installed, yes. | 15:34 |
| armin | terra: my current solution is to run xfce4-power-manager with any desktop session i use | 15:35 |
| armin | terra: but i don't to have to run Xorg just to be able to have suspend on lid close, of course... | 15:35 |
| relo3 | I'm back | 16:36 |
| relo3 | Null "Change layout option" also didn't work. | 16:37 |
| relo3 | Nor removing the US keyboard. | 16:38 |
| relo3 | Could you run the following command please: setxkbmap -query | 17:36 |
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