TwistedFate | hello | 01:01 |
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TwistedFate | is devuan live iso a hybrid? | 01:01 |
TwistedFate | trying to boot it on an old machine but seems like it doesn't detect it at all | 01:01 |
golinux | Yes | 01:19 |
golinux | I'm pretty sure it is. | 01:23 |
aitor | hi | 02:06 |
aitor | anybody here? | 02:07 |
g4570n | hi aitor | 02:17 |
aitor | hi, i was writing an email to another member of the mailing list | 02:17 |
aitor | i have news | 02:18 |
aitor | the live-sdk + debian-installer worked on beowulf | 02:19 |
g4570n | cool! | 02:19 |
aitor | just a few touches and i'll share the code in the mailing list | 02:20 |
aitor | here you are the image: | 02:20 |
aitor | http://gnuinos.org/devuan%20beowulf/ | 02:21 |
g4570n | is a live version? | 02:22 |
aitor | the wired network connection worked in the live session and also after the hard disk installation | 02:22 |
aitor | yes, it is | 02:22 |
aitor | linux-4.19 | 02:23 |
aitor | all the packages are downloaded from deb.devuan.org | 02:23 |
aitor | official packages | 02:23 |
aitor | tomorrow i'll push the sources of the live-sdk | 02:24 |
g4570n | great! | 02:24 |
aitor | yes, a lot of work :) | 02:25 |
g4570n | the guide do you write in the forum, about live-sdk, is finish? | 02:25 |
aitor | i only wrote about amprolla, but i take the hint | 02:26 |
aitor | :) | 02:26 |
g4570n | :P | 02:27 |
aitor | 02:27 here, time to bed | 02:27 |
aitor | test the live image | 02:28 |
g4570n | good night aitor nice work! | 02:28 |
aitor | bye, thanks :) | 02:29 |
ServiceRobot | oh, I see. are the country code websites working? like us.deb.devuan.org? | 09:51 |
ServiceRobot | don't even know if I should use that one | 09:51 |
KatolaZ | ServiceRobot: you can use CCs | 09:53 |
KatolaZ | at the moment they redirect to the same pool of mirrors | 09:53 |
KatolaZ | but we are reorganising them to improve locality | 09:53 |
ServiceRobot | should I use them though as a recommendation? | 09:54 |
KatolaZ | you can use them | 09:54 |
KatolaZ | for the moment you won't notice any difference wrt using deb.devuan.org | 09:55 |
ServiceRobot | weird, I tried to get them working in a VM, but going to website itself in a browser gives an ssl error | 09:55 |
KatolaZ | ServiceRobot: *.deb.devuan.org has NO support for SSL | 09:55 |
ServiceRobot | that explains why chrome complained then | 09:55 |
KatolaZ | if you need HTTPS, you must use one of the mirrors that provide https access | 09:56 |
KatolaZ | https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt | 09:56 |
ServiceRobot | how necessary is https in this case though? | 09:56 |
KatolaZ | if you ask me, not necessary at all | 09:56 |
KatolaZ | but there are cases when users want privacy also about the list of packages they install/upgrade | 09:56 |
ServiceRobot | aren't the packages signed in some way though? | 09:57 |
KatolaZ | sure they are | 09:57 |
KatolaZ | forging repos is quite hard | 09:57 |
KatolaZ | (actually, as hard as cracking standard gpg encryption) | 09:58 |
KatolaZ | that's why accessing repos through HTTPS does not add any security | 09:58 |
KatolaZ | only a layer of privacy | 09:59 |
ServiceRobot | but you don't think I need that layer of privacy? | 09:59 |
KatolaZ | ServiceRobot: that's your choice not mine | 10:02 |
KatolaZ | I don't, but you might | 10:02 |
ServiceRobot | I'll just stick with the main mirror then | 10:03 |
ServiceRobot | it would be nice if the live minimal iso supported uefi. I can just use the live desktop iso but it doesn't have debootstrap preinstalled | 10:10 |
ServiceRobot | ya, debootstrap gets stuck for some reason in the vm. might be the network selection I'm using | 10:14 |
ServiceRobot | using KVM/QEMU if you're wondering | 10:14 |
KatolaZ | ServiceRobot: debootstrap is available in minimal-live | 10:19 |
KatolaZ | yes, we should provide uefi support in minimal-live | 10:20 |
ServiceRobot | I mainly use uefi in my vms for testing purposes. thing is debootstrap doesn't seem to be working | 10:20 |
ServiceRobot | it gets stuck as soon as it tries to download the first package, in this case adduser | 10:21 |
ServiceRobot | mind you I'm trying to test out beowulf so that could be part of the problem | 10:21 |
KatolaZ | ServiceRobot: are we talking of minimal-live? | 10:26 |
* man_in_shack grumbles about devuan's apt mirror thingy not mirroring translation files | 10:26 | |
KatolaZ | o_O | 10:26 |
KatolaZ | man_in_shack: grumbling won't make translation files magically appear ;) | 10:27 |
KatolaZ | man_in_shack: it's i the todo-list though | 10:27 |
KatolaZ | man_in_shack: if you want to help, you'd be welcome | 10:27 |
ServiceRobot | good thing I only speak english | 10:27 |
man_in_shack | ServiceRobot: doesn't help anymore | 10:30 |
man_in_shack | since debian moved the english language descriptions into translation-en files | 10:30 |
man_in_shack | KatolaZ: grumbling and complaining about it is on my todo list :P | 10:31 |
man_in_shack | who the fuck is stealing all my internets? | 10:31 |
KatolaZ | man_in_shack: the problem is that the Translations format is not well-documented | 10:31 |
KatolaZ | hence not immediate to get right outside debian | 10:32 |
man_in_shack | fun | 10:32 |
KatolaZ | I had a look into it but we need to test stuff | 10:32 |
knofix | hi, may i ask a question | 12:40 |
knofix | using devuan ascii and i put something into sources list and it hangs | 12:40 |
knofix | is it so if i put 3rd party repositories into sources.list directly it does not update them via apt-get update command? | 12:41 |
knofix | put wine´s in | 12:41 |
knofix | https://ibb.co/jzLWDYS | 12:42 |
knofix | does nothing but stands there | 12:42 |
knofix | also added i386 support | 12:43 |
knofix | nevermind cleared the cache now it is working | 12:47 |
knofix | oh it does not, it processes devuan repositories but not third party, | 12:47 |
windchime | I want to install heads hybrid iso onto a usb stick but the instuctions I'm following: https://www.2daygeek.com/create-a-bootable-usb-drive-from-an-iso-image-using-dd-command-on-linux/# require isohybrid which is unavailable as syslinux is unavailable using apt-get. Alternatively to using dd was bootiso but that is unavailable using apt-get also. What do I do next? | 12:53 |
moiree_ | windchime: Instructions how to install heads onto a USB flash drive: <https://heads.dyne.org/wiki/usingheads.html> | 12:58 |
windchime | <moiree_> TKU! I will check it out | 12:59 |
cosurgi | anyone wants to checkout my latest https://gitlab.com/cosurgi/zsh-git-cal-status-cpp ? :) | 13:05 |
windchime | How do I "sync once more"? | 13:48 |
windchime | Once you got it, the only thing you need to do is dd the ISO to a flash drive by doing the following with root permissions (note that the device is /dev/sdb and not /dev/sdb1): | 13:48 |
windchime | ; dd if=heads-*.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M && sync | 13:48 |
windchime | If no errors were seen, sync once more and you are done. You can now use this flash drive to boot into the heads live OS. | 13:48 |
windchime | tried using "sync" command & nothing noticeable happened? then i tried "sync /dev/sdb" & i got: root@devuan:/home/beagleburt/Downloads/heads# sync /dev/sdb sync: ignoring all arguments so did it "sync once more"? | 14:03 |
windchime | oh well - presume it werked ok? - 'b'ye! | 14:13 |
Bjornn | no complaints is good! | 17:12 |
TwistedFate | i tried to debootstrap from devuan minimal live | 18:44 |
TwistedFate | but it doesn't work | 18:44 |
KatolaZ | TwistedFate: define doesn't work | 18:45 |
TwistedFate | "failed getting release file" | 18:45 |
KatolaZ | TwistedFate: which mirror are you using? | 18:45 |
TwistedFate | then the link for pkgmaster | 18:45 |
TwistedFate | E: Failed getting release file https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/dists/ascii/Release | 18:46 |
KatolaZ | TwistedFate: do you have internet connection? | 18:46 |
TwistedFate | yes | 18:46 |
TwistedFate | erm wait | 18:46 |
KatolaZ | quite odd... | 18:46 |
TwistedFate | looks like i don't have a connection | 18:47 |
KatolaZ | that's probably why you can't get the Release file then | 18:48 |
TwistedFate | i don't see why it doesn't work though | 18:48 |
KatolaZ | becaue it requires a network connection | 18:48 |
TwistedFate | not that | 18:49 |
TwistedFate | the internet | 18:49 |
KatolaZ | oh ok | 18:49 |
gnarface | what does "/sbin/route -n" show you? | 18:50 |
TwistedFate | lol /etc/network/interfaces didn't have anything set for eth0 | 18:51 |
TwistedFate | it only had loop and nothing else | 18:51 |
KatolaZ | TwistedFate: yep | 18:51 |
KatolaZ | you can use setnet.sh if you like | 18:52 |
KatolaZ | or just configure it manually | 18:52 |
TwistedFate | i configured it | 18:52 |
TwistedFate | how do i "reload" eth0 | 18:52 |
TwistedFate | / | 18:52 |
KatolaZ | what do you mean TwistedFate ? | 18:53 |
TwistedFate | KatolaZ: after configuring /etc/network/interfaces | 18:53 |
TwistedFate | how do i get it to use the config | 18:54 |
TwistedFate | and get online | 18:54 |
phogg | TwistedFate: ifup eth0 | 18:54 |
KatolaZ | /etc/init.d/networking restart | 18:54 |
TwistedFate | KatolaZ: where is setnet.sh? | 18:57 |
KatolaZ | just run it | 18:57 |
KatolaZ | it should be under /usr/sbin/ | 18:58 |
TwistedFate | nice | 19:00 |
_abc_ | When mounting any usb stick with ext2 fs on it under thunar I get it mounted ro, can't write files to it | 22:45 |
_abc_ | This is of course a fs created as root. The mount user is not "squashed" to devuan. This is ascii installed on hdd. Is this a normal behavior? Is there a gui option to control the forced mount user for the entire volume? | 22:46 |
_abc_ | Hmm? | 22:52 |
_abc_ | getfacl on /media/devuan shows the acl permissions, I assume that's how I can change this behavior, right? | 22:52 |
_abc_ | Are acls on in ascii by default or am I barking up the wrong three here? | 22:57 |
gnarface | i don't think the acls are on by default unless maybe if you enabled selinux? | 23:00 |
gnarface | it's most likely a issue with your login manager, choice of consolekit/elogind, or the user you're running Xorg as | 23:01 |
gnarface | (in the past, this thing was usually handled by just running Xorg through a suid root wrapper but that is no longer the default behavior) | 23:01 |
gnarface | dos/windows filesystems may have other behaviors though | 23:02 |
gnarface | fat32 mounts don't support user permissions for example at all, and default everything to root ownership and read-only as all other users | 23:02 |
_abc_ | I did not enable selinux. | 23:02 |
_abc_ | dos is writable always | 23:03 |
_abc_ | ext2 created as root is "root" excepting for the subdirs accessible by the user. | 23:03 |
gnarface | maybe acls were on the mounted drives already? | 23:03 |
_abc_ | gnarface: I say acl because ls -ld /media/devuan/ shows a '+' at the end of the permissions | 23:04 |
_abc_ | It would not be there if acls would not be enabled, right? | 23:04 |
_abc_ | I am new to acls | 23:04 |
_abc_ | Another: ascii usb stick with bootable dual partition persistence, shows non-concordance in the boot sector copy 1 and 2 on fsck on the 1st bootable partition. | 23:05 |
_abc_ | Should I be worried. This never happened so far. The partition was made with fsmithred's refracta, has several systems on it. | 23:05 |
_abc_ | re: boot sector fat copies: solved, I edited the partition table in the refacta made fat32 bootable usb stick and forgot to copy the new pt to the backup sector upon 1st fsck | 23:11 |
minnesotags | FUCKING FUCKING FUCK FUCKING SYSTEMFUCKINGD!!!!!!!!!!!! | 23:33 |
debdog | that's quite an outrage :) | 23:39 |
minnesotags | Fucking systemfuckingd decided that it was going to block apache2 from listening on ports. Do you suppose there is documentation for this? Fucking FUCK no. So now I'm supposed to figure out how to use systemctl socket whatever the fuck? | 23:43 |
* golinux reaches for minnesotags meds | 23:43 | |
golinux | Why not use nginx? | 23:44 |
minnesotags | Why can't I just use the goddamn webserver that was working on this embedded device for three goddamn years until some stupid Debian systemd upgrade broke the damn thing? | 23:46 |
furrywolf | and now you know why devuan exists. :) | 23:48 |
minnesotags | No. Fucking. Shit. | 23:48 |
minnesotags | There wasn't a working beaglebone black image before or this thing would have been on Devuan like all the rest of my stuff. | 23:49 |
golinux | I remember when you kept asking for the beaglebone black | 23:51 |
minnesotags | Yup | 23:52 |
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