| mankeletor | Hey there, i want to install megasync client | 04:40 |
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| gnarface | megatools - Command-line client for the Mega cloud storage service? | 04:41 |
| gnarface | this one? | 04:41 |
| mankeletor | yes | 04:42 |
| gnarface | did you try "apt-get update && apt-get install megatools" | 04:42 |
| gnarface | ? | 04:42 |
| mankeletor | i dont, is that the graphical sync client? | 04:43 |
| gnarface | uh, maybe not | 04:44 |
| gnarface | megadown - Script for downloading files from mega.nz and megacrypter? | 04:44 |
| gnarface | hmm | 04:45 |
| gnarface | mabye it's not in the repo | 04:45 |
| gnarface | do they have a website you know ofi? | 04:45 |
| gnarface | i'm not familiar with it | 04:45 |
| mankeletor | official site have a .deb for debian 9 but im not sure if that could work here | 04:48 |
| mankeletor | https://mega.nz/sync | 04:48 |
| furrywolf | I don't like mega, and I certainly wouldn't trust any binaries they provide. | 04:49 |
| g4570n | yes, it should work in Devuan ASCII, install with dpkg -i | 04:51 |
| mankeletor | well i couldnt get the package from the site | 04:55 |
| mankeletor | https://github.com/meganz/MEGAsync | 04:57 |
| mankeletor | im gonna compilate it | 04:58 |
| mankeletor | it worked on rapsbian :P | 04:59 |
| va7lnx | backing up my home director so I can replace my mobo and install devuan on this desktop :) | 05:12 |
| mankeletor | i have devuan installed on my laptop from few hours ago | 05:14 |
| va7lnx | I did that on my laptop a few months back | 05:14 |
| va7lnx | works great | 05:14 |
| va7lnx | and uses less than half the memory of linux mint | 05:15 |
| va7lnx | so 8GB goes a lot farther. | 05:15 |
| va7lnx | and it's way faster too | 05:15 |
| mankeletor | i wonder why the battery icon is showing an exclamation sign | 05:15 |
| va7lnx | systemd is such a bear | 05:15 |
| mankeletor | lol that's right | 05:16 |
| mankeletor | i mean it's true | 05:16 |
| mankeletor | damn, the megashit have a lot of deps | 05:19 |
| mankeletor | is anyone using sudo? | 05:26 |
| mankeletor | i login as root anytime i want to use apt | 05:27 |
| gnarface | you can use su inst3ead | 05:28 |
| gnarface | *instead | 05:28 |
| mankeletor | yes i do | 05:28 |
| mankeletor | i used sudo before when i was in mint | 05:29 |
| Ji-eF[m] | To follow up to the problem I had yesterday : it seems to be solved now. Today's updates included openrc, librc1 and libeinfo (0.40.3-1) | 13:07 |
| Ji-eF[m] | my lsmod is back to normal :) | 13:08 |
| KatolaZ | Ji-eF[m]: the funny thing is that we didn't do anything :) | 13:26 |
| KatolaZ | meaning that we didn't have time to look into the issue and/or make any test | 13:26 |
| Ji-eF[m] | Sure :) thanks anyways ! Not behind my compy now, so i'll say it from memory but openrc update complained about nonexisting unmountrootfs script, so I cp'ed umountrootfs to uNmountrootfs before reboot . | 13:42 |
| Ji-eF[m] | If I can do things and tests for you by this WE, please tell me, I still have eudev and openrc in /var/apt/archives :) | 13:44 |
| KatolaZ | mmmhhh | 13:49 |
| KatolaZ | that's strange Ji-eF[m] | 13:50 |
| KatolaZ | are you still using the latest eudev? | 13:50 |
| Ji-eF[m] | Hum I'll verify now... | 14:51 |
| Ji-eF[m] | KatolaZ: libeudev1:amd64 3.2.7-5 amd64 | 14:53 |
| Ji-eF[m] | eudev as well same version | 14:53 |
| KatolaZ | oki | 14:55 |
| KatolaZ | thanks Ji-eF[m] | 14:55 |
| ejr | ok guys, i did something stupid apparently. I wanted to remove some xserver/window manager packages, because i don't want to have the xserver installed anymore. i used apt-get remove xserver* xinit* to remove their packages, but now i cannot even get anything to work properly anymore in a tty. even my wireless is not recognised anymore. There was also a message about openrc configuration appearing shortly. | 15:48 |
| ejr | does anybody have an idea what i might need to reinstall? | 15:48 |
| KatolaZ | ejr: what do you mean? | 15:51 |
| Ji-eF[m] | ejr: did you have openrc already installed ? | 15:51 |
| ejr | yes i did | 15:51 |
| KatolaZ | can you login on a console? | 15:51 |
| ejr | yes | 15:51 |
| KatolaZ | then you are fine | 15:51 |
| KatolaZ | :) | 15:51 |
| ejr | but i cannot, for example, start fbterm or w3m (error: can't open frame buffer device! call VESA function 0x4f00 failure! No VESA bios) | 15:52 |
| ejr | i am running libreboot but never had any bios/boot issues on this before i removed those packages (whatever they were, i know, it was stupid to not check them in detail) | 15:53 |
| KatolaZ | ejr: id they work before? | 15:53 |
| KatolaZ | ~did | 15:53 |
| KatolaZ | fmterm and w3m? | 15:53 |
| KatolaZ | fbterm and w3m? | 15:53 |
| ejr | yes | 15:53 |
| KatolaZ | just check if you have an active fb device | 15:54 |
| ejr | oh, and wlan0 is not there anymore either | 15:54 |
| KatolaZ | ejr: what did you use to configure wifi before? | 15:54 |
| ejr | just the interfaces file with wpa_supplicant | 15:54 |
| KatolaZ | is the wifi card kernel module loaded? | 15:55 |
| ejr | how do i check? | 15:55 |
| KatolaZ | lsmod? | 15:56 |
| ejr | no it isnt | 15:57 |
| KatolaZ | then load it | 15:58 |
| KatolaZ | (modprobe) | 16:01 |
| ejr | hmm, either i am too dumb to find it in the list, or it isnt there | 16:01 |
| ejr | it's an atheros wireless device but i cannot see it in lsmod, only in lspci | 16:01 |
| KatolaZ | load it | 16:01 |
| KatolaZ | modprobe | 16:01 |
| ejr | i don't know it's name | 16:02 |
| KatolaZ | start writing | 16:02 |
| ejr | (it's not "atheros", that's just what it says in lspci) | 16:02 |
| KatolaZ | modprobe ath[TAB][TAB] | 16:02 |
| Ji-eF[m] | ejr: if you have bash-completion, yse tab-completion | 16:03 |
| Ji-eF[m] | use** | 16:03 |
| ejr | yeah, then it shows ath and ath3k,ath5k etc. i loaded "ath", that sounds the most correct to me | 16:03 |
| ejr | still no wlan0 in ifconfig or iwconfig though | 16:03 |
| KatolaZ | ejr: look for your model in dmesg | 16:04 |
| KatolaZ | it should have been loaded at boot time tbh | 16:04 |
| KatolaZ | ejr: do you have a running eudev? | 16:04 |
| KatolaZ | this is unrelated to networking though | 16:05 |
| ejr | ahh, that's it i think :) just started eudev service, now wlan0 appears. let's see about the rest | 16:05 |
| ejr | yeah, now everything works again :D | 16:06 |
| KatolaZ | how comes it was not running? | 16:06 |
| KatolaZ | o_O | 16:06 |
| ejr | thanks a lot! but i wonder why eudev was deactivated. In general, I have some issues with services starting correctly on this installation (ascii). If you remember, last week I had the weird tor daemon issues that didnt start properly. It was due to "lo" not running. | 16:06 |
| KatolaZ | ejr: dunno | 16:07 |
| Ji-eF[m] | KatolaZ: about eudev : yesterday, it was complaining about something related to kvm when I was trying "service eudev restart" . Does it ring some bells ? | 16:07 |
| ejr | i wasn't on the machine in the last days but still haven't fixed the lo to work properly, doing that manually with ifconfig lo down && ifconfig lo up so far. also networking and/or network-manager don't start automativellay | 16:07 |
| KatolaZ | Ji-eF[m]: it's unrelated since ejr is on ascii | 16:07 |
| ejr | sorry, ceres! | 16:08 |
| KatolaZ | ejr: what do you have in /etc/network/interfaces? | 16:08 |
| KatolaZ | o_O | 16:08 |
| ejr | KatolaZ: auto lo / iface lo inet loopback / allow-hotplug wlan0 / iface wlan0 inet dhcp (plus two lines with wpa-ssid and wpa-psk) | 16:09 |
| ejr | btw, also the kernel that came with ceres does not work when I use it, so far I am always manually selecting 4.9 which still works. when I use 4.19 I get errors about EFI_MEMMAP not being enabled (again, no UEFI here - libreboot) | 16:12 |
| ejr | that's not much of a problem though except that I still need to edit the grub config so that it automatically select the right kernel, or remove the old one if that doesn't cause any problems | 16:12 |
| KatolaZ | ejr: does the error affects how the machine work? | 16:14 |
| KatolaZ | or is it just a warning in dmesg? | 16:14 |
| ejr | yeah, it doesnt work at all with that kernel. the moment the console login appears, the upper quarter of the screen adapts weird colours as if it's physically broken, and the system freezes at that moment | 16:15 |
| ejr | would it be safe to just remove that kernel (apt-get remove linux-image-4.19*) as long as i have 4.9 installed? | 16:17 |
| KatolaZ | ejr: if you are not running it, how could that be dangerous? | 16:17 |
| KatolaZ | :) | 16:18 |
| ejr | yeah, just wondering because apparently it came with the base installation. | 16:19 |
| Achylles | any devuan .iso project for installing it in the new-coming-soon pinebook pro? | 16:19 |
| ejr | btw, how do i get eudev and networking to start automatically at boot? it has to do with runlevels apparently, and i seem to have mine mixed up now... | 16:20 |
| Achylles | it would be great to install devuan on that machine... | 16:20 |
| KatolaZ | ejr: have you mangled with runlevels/openrc config? | 16:21 |
| Achylles | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_S3A3OmpLpnLTIRnhK31IDZOonq2-CFGIxT1fgM5GqY/edit#gid=0 | 16:21 |
| KatolaZ | Achylles: I don't think we have seen any of those so far :) | 16:22 |
| ejr | KatolaZ: no, that's why i am surprised eudev suddenly doesnt work. I had the networking issue before with lo not working properly though (with a ? instead of a - or + next to its service status) | 16:22 |
| KatolaZ | Achylles: are they actually shipping? | 16:23 |
| Achylles | people say they will be shipped soon | 16:23 |
| KatolaZ | Achylles: they have been saying that for the best part of the last three years :) | 16:24 |
| Achylles | Just got that info from #hardware | 16:24 |
| KatolaZ | good | 16:24 |
| Achylles | https://liliputing.com/2019/01/pinebook-pro-linux-laptop-coming-this-year-for-199-and-up.html | 16:26 |
| KatolaZ | Achylles: the site requires adcoockies | 16:27 |
| KatolaZ | sorry but I won't consent | 16:27 |
| KatolaZ | :) | 16:27 |
| MinceR | the article disappears if i don't let them spy on me | 16:27 |
| MinceR | fuck liliputing | 16:27 |
| MinceR | here's an archive without the web-based malware, though >> http://archive.is/5GXa7 | 16:28 |
| MinceR | also, they misspelled "systemd" as "GNU/Linux" | 16:29 |
| Achylles | KatolaZ, what is your blocking extension? | 16:30 |
| Achylles | noscript? | 16:30 |
| KatolaZ | Achylles: I don't accept cookie by default | 16:30 |
| KatolaZ | and the site complaints | 16:30 |
| KatolaZ | if you just don't accept cookies, they will complain | 16:30 |
| MinceR | i said "Learn More", "REJECT ALL" (i think everything was already disabled), then i got the article for a moment, then i got a lecture with some RECONSIDER button instead | 16:31 |
| Achylles | right, firefox preferences? | 16:31 |
| MinceR | but they haven't blcocked archive.is yet | 16:31 |
| MinceR | s/lc/l/ | 16:31 |
| KatolaZ | Achylles: surf | 16:32 |
| Achylles | you can use elinks then... | 16:33 |
| KatolaZ | if I want, yes | 16:33 |
| KatolaZ | but surf has some graphics | 16:34 |
| KatolaZ | :) | 16:34 |
| Achylles | anyways, hope that pinebook pro comes out and we, in the future, have a devuan_pinebook.iso for that ;) | 16:34 |
| KatolaZ | Achylles: this is improbable, unless we do have a pinebook to test the images on... | 16:35 |
| Achylles | improbable to have a pinebook? | 16:35 |
| Achylles | or a pinebook pro, since it is only a hearsay? | 16:36 |
| nemo | Achylles: I have a pinebook. | 16:37 |
| nemo | My main issue with it has been graphics acceleration ☹ | 16:37 |
| nemo | seems more messed up than the usual for arm | 16:38 |
| Achylles | with devuan? | 16:38 |
| nemo | Achylles: I haven't tried devuan yet. I'm too chicken. but maybe I should. clearly their default image is not much better | 16:38 |
| nemo | should just pop out the SD and make a new one | 16:38 |
| Achylles | perhaps you should and share your experience... | 16:39 |
| nemo | fine fine. it's not doing anything useful right now | 16:39 |
| nemo | I'd bought it to get my SO off her chromebook, but the graphics acceleration has been too much of a mess to even consider it | 16:39 |
| Achylles | perhaps the pro version will fix it. If ever it comes out. Who knows | 16:41 |
| nemo | I might try a *clean* pinebook image first. just to verify it didn't get messed up in apt-get update too | 16:41 |
| ejr | could you guys have a look at my dmesg log and tell me whether the pci warnings (or perhaps other messages) are still worrisome? https://termbin.com/e3nj | 16:41 |
| Achylles | Anyway which laptop would fit better for devuan these days? Lenovo? | 16:41 |
| nemo | Achylles: the other laptop I bought for her is stuck on the fact that even though I finally got debian kernel team to bump the flag her touchpad needed, it's still not in stable-backports ☹ | 16:43 |
| nemo | Achylles: a year and a half later :/ | 16:43 |
| nemo | beginning to think it never will be | 16:43 |
| nemo | Achylles: so I use a forced-in unstable kernel that I have to reinstall the headers for after every update | 16:43 |
| nemo | lessee what laptop *that* is ☺ | 16:44 |
| nemo | but I think it's lenovo ☺ | 16:44 |
| Achylles | KatolaZ, I just installed surf, but in my stumpwm it only shows a blank page :( | 16:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >><KatolaZ> humma: user@10.0.0.3:~/devuan-logo-purpy.txt<< don't do that! ~ is local | 16:49 |
| Achylles | I will see if that opens in xfce4 | 16:51 |
| xxzz | hi, does apparmor work in Devuan? | 16:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what you want is user@10.0.0.3:/home/user/devuan-logo-purpy.txt | 17:01 |
| djph | DocScrutinizer05: user@host: starts in $HOME ... | 17:16 |
| James1138 | I hope these may help a little with finding drivers for Lenovo/Thinkpads... https://launchpad.net/~linrunner/+ppa-packages | 17:23 |
| nemo | xxzz keeps asking about apparmour but I have no freakin' idea. I'm guess the answer is "does debian support apparmour" | 18:02 |
| errandir1 | I don't know anybody who keeps apparmour enabled (in any distro) | 18:21 |
| KatolaZ | nemo: apparmor is enabled in buster/beowulf | 18:25 |
| ggg | heya ! I have an issue with the usb key installer. My laptop is an Asus UX333 (recent model). Parrot OS works, but the Devuan key isn't recognized as a bootable USB. The key works with an older laptop. Any help appreciated !. | 18:43 |
| ggg | (tried both dvd and netinst, Ascii iso) | 18:44 |
| nemo | KatolaZ: m'k welp. he's been asking once a day, I'll file that way | 18:48 |
| KatolaZ | nemo: ? | 18:52 |
| KatolaZ | nemo: you can enable or disable apparmor | 18:53 |
| KatolaZ | just stop it or remove it to "disable" it | 18:53 |
| nemo | KatolaZ: yeah dunno. he just keeps asking: | 19:15 |
| nemo | 10:56 < xxzz> hi, does apparmor work in Devuan? | 19:15 |
| nemo | I guess he's asking if it's maintained in debian kernels? dunno | 19:15 |
| ggg | > mfw this piece of shit (Asus UX333) won't even boot gentoo. Asus worse than Apple now. hurray | 19:53 |
| ezcape | All I want for Christmas is Devuan :) | 20:33 |
| ezcape | running MX Linux now, and ircd is installed together with ntpd, which is running | 20:51 |
| ezcape | do not like | 20:51 |
| ezcape | can uninstall though, but I do not see why at least ircd is installed | 20:52 |
| ezcape | can I use this guide for Devuan too? https://mxlinux.org/wiki/system/compiling-and-installing-new-kernel | 20:52 |
| ezcape | had to install bison and flex too. so the guide is not 100% | 20:53 |
| watchcat | apparmor is a dependency of the 4.19 kernel in ascii backports. seem to work ok, or at least hasn't caused any problems i'm aware of. | 20:59 |
| ejr | how can i remove configurations files of packages that were once installed? | 21:00 |
| Jjp137 | apt-get purge package | 21:01 |
| ejr | thanks | 21:02 |
| nemo | ow. a combination of vmware view and gvfsd-mtp caused a ton of process spam to dmesg | 21:18 |
| nemo | after just a few minutes before I thought to kill gvfsd-mtp and remove its execute privs, each of the relevant logs in /var/log was 10 gigs in size | 21:18 |
| ezcape | all alone in #devuan-offtopic :( | 21:54 |
| DonkeyHotei | because the channel is #debianfork | 21:54 |
| ezcape | DonkeyHotei: thanks :) | 21:55 |
| ezcape | possible to install cryptsetup 2.1 from source? | 22:04 |
| ezcape | will it upgrade the 1.7.x? | 22:04 |
| ezcape | got a disk with luks2... | 22:04 |
| fsmithred | ezcape, better to create a debian package than to install pure source | 22:09 |
| fsmithred | that way the package manager knows what's going on | 22:10 |
| gnarface | 2.0.6 is in ceres | 22:10 |
| fsmithred | and beowulf | 22:10 |
| ezcape | fsmithred: thank you :D | 22:15 |
| ezcape | do I upgrade to testing after install? | 22:15 |
| ezcape | thank gnarface :D | 22:15 |
| ezcape | s | 22:15 |
| ezcape | like with Slack | 22:16 |
| gnarface | ezcape: just to be clear, i think you should stick with trying to build it for ascii, but i think you should try to build the source package from beowulf or ceres first before the upstream source | 22:16 |
| ezcape | gnarface: I see. thank you :D | 22:17 |
| gnarface | just upgrading to beowulf or ceres would be theoretically an option but probably also a lot more trouble than it sounds like | 22:17 |
| ezcape | nice to know :) | 22:17 |
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