fsmithred | unlikely that a post got deleted. | 00:00 |
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fsmithred | I don't think it's ever happened. | 00:01 |
specing | I guess it is possible that I was happy with the preview and forgot to submit | 00:01 |
fsmithred | I hate when that happens. | 00:01 |
debdog | heehee | 00:01 |
fsmithred | or if you take too long and get logged out and didn't save it to clipboard first | 00:02 |
debdog | forums are awfull | 00:02 |
debdog | -l | 00:02 |
specing | fsmithred: heh, the box went through a full reboot since then | 00:05 |
fsmithred | one fix for that is to use firefox-2.x and you can retrieve it from browser cache | 00:09 |
specing | sounds old | 00:10 |
fsmithred | it was old - it hung around for years | 00:10 |
fsmithred | so how small did you get your basic install? | 00:10 |
specing | 0 bytes, because the virtual disk went bye bye in the reboot | 00:11 |
fsmithred | oh, sorry to hear | 00:12 |
specing | fsmithred: eh, I wasn't planning on saving that install anyway. It was just a test if I can make it through the install without murdering anyone | 00:13 |
specing | given that it can put /boot on btrfs, I'll probably proceed by installing latest stable to a hard disk | 00:15 |
golinux | specing: To avoid losing a post, check 'keep me logged in" when you come on the foru | 00:19 |
golinux | m | 00:20 |
Xenguy | debdog: You don't like forums? Why not? | 01:24 |
debdog | most importantly, they usually have terrible search engines | 01:26 |
gnarface | it's hard to write an actually good search that doesn't ransack your database with every single query | 01:27 |
Xenguy | It's not the first complaint I've ever heard about web site search engines... | 01:27 |
Xenguy | Which surprises me, cos you'd think The Smart People would have a handle on this (important) function by now. | 01:28 |
gnarface | there's been a lot of 3rd party attempts to offload the work of doing it right but even the open source ones with the best street cred suck compared to just letting google cache the whole thing | 01:28 |
debdog | also usually, they are occupied by some more or less knowledgeable people who love to talk. this results in either bad info or good info buried in lengthy threads | 01:28 |
Xenguy | gnarface: Do you know if SOLR is still used at all? | 01:29 |
gnarface | actually i've never heard of it | 01:30 |
gnarface | last i was working in that sector everyone was using sphinx | 01:30 |
Xenguy | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Solr | 01:30 |
Xenguy | huh | 01:30 |
debdog | for chattin' forums are ok. but if you have to rely on one for documentation on something, well, you effed | 01:31 |
Xenguy | Yeah it doesn't take the place of wikis/documentation, for sure | 01:32 |
va7lnx | I need a power adapter to get to the 4pin power plug on a motherboard :\ | 01:37 |
va7lnx | https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=5_1336_1426&item_id=020072 | 01:40 |
va7lnx | one of those | 01:40 |
va7lnx | :\ | 01:40 |
va7lnx | why am I building computers again? | 01:40 |
ezcape | va7lnx: you love it :) | 01:48 |
va7lnx | ezcape: I guess | 01:49 |
va7lnx | I have three here. one is supposed to be a file server | 01:49 |
ezcape | yep I hink so :) | 01:49 |
ezcape | nice! | 01:49 |
va7lnx | I ripped my thinkcentre apart to take the RAM and CPU, then dropped those into a better mother board and put that into a different | 01:50 |
va7lnx | case | 01:50 |
ezcape | nice :) | 01:50 |
va7lnx | then I put the mother from the case I put the new stuff in, put that into the thinkcentre with a new power supply | 01:51 |
ezcape | got only one hand. been eating with the other | 01:51 |
va7lnx | and finally, I'm working on this other machine that is going to be my file server | 01:51 |
va7lnx | I got lots of movies | 01:51 |
ezcape | and it worked? | 01:51 |
va7lnx | the first two did | 01:52 |
ezcape | grear | 01:52 |
va7lnx | the thinkcentre is a miniATX case | 01:52 |
ezcape | t | 01:52 |
va7lnx | but the PSU is non-standard | 01:52 |
va7lnx | the mobo is garbage | 01:52 |
va7lnx | this new mobo is far better. | 01:52 |
va7lnx | the old one would stall when copying stuff to USB. | 01:52 |
va7lnx | this one performs perfectly as far as I can tell | 01:52 |
va7lnx | $150 later for mobo and 8GB of RAM | 01:52 |
ezcape | lotsa movies I knoww all about. I need things to watch when in a care home ;) | 01:53 |
va7lnx | 12GB total now in an i5-2500 | 01:53 |
va7lnx | I'm good | 01:53 |
va7lnx | oh, and 6GB/s SATA into an SSD | 01:53 |
ezcape | lots to thinker about I see :) | 01:53 |
va7lnx | I'll use this non-standard PSU as a bench supply for my ham radios :) | 01:53 |
ezcape | gotta wash my hands | 01:54 |
va7lnx | brb | 01:54 |
ezcape | ham radios? you like the 70s? :) | 02:01 |
ezcape | dont know nothing about that, but it seems old time :) | 02:02 |
ezcape | 2am here. I need sleep | 02:02 |
ezcape | have fun :) !gone! | 02:02 |
va7lnx | okay | 02:02 |
va7lnx | not old school though | 02:02 |
va7lnx | digital modes ar efun | 02:03 |
golinux | Please take OT stuff to #debianfork | 02:18 |
ultrakaratetzar | hi :) | 03:26 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I know I should take this to the other channel, which I'm not a user of. So sorry, I can'T help sharing: https://youtu.be/o_AIw9bGogo?t=1182 | 08:30 |
redrick | DocScrutinizer05: /join #debianfork is your friend. | 08:46 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I might even be banned there, no idea. If I'm not, I better should | 08:47 |
redrick | The channel admin said, just before your 'I know I should take this to the other channel' remark: 17:18 < golinux> Please take OT stuff to #debianfork | 08:51 |
DocScrutinizer05 | thanks, I got a local chanlog aka scrollback here too | 08:53 |
redrick | In that case: Suggest you do as the channel admin said. Quod erat demonstrandum. | 08:54 |
DocScrutinizer05 | it's quite funny actually how golinux makes her OT calls a half an hour after last post of any OT thread. Luckily she doesn't extend that to a 100 lines monologue anymore | 08:55 |
redrick | Almost like she doesn't work for you, right? ;-> | 08:56 |
DocScrutinizer05 | sidenote: you are also extending a one liner "OT" post into actually disturbing noise | 08:56 |
redrick | I'll let you know if an inflamed conscience troubles me overly. | 08:57 |
DocScrutinizer05 | what's your problem dude? | 08:57 |
redrick | I'd give you a list, but it'd be OT. | 08:58 |
DocScrutinizer05 | are you sure you aren't already? massively | 08:59 |
Latrina | good morning guys, a quick question | 09:07 |
DocScrutinizer05 | shoot | 09:08 |
Latrina | is there a iso for ceres or the only way to get in ceres is to upgrade from ascii? | 09:08 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I guess there's at least no official ISO yet | 09:09 |
Latrina | do you have the link to it by chance? | 09:10 |
golinux | Latrina: There is no iso for ceres. Never has been. How would that even be possible since ceres is so fluid? | 09:10 |
Latrina | golinux: was just wondering | 09:10 |
Latrina | so I will upgrade from ascii then | 09:10 |
Latrina | thanks | 09:10 |
golinux | You can upgrafd to beowulf | 09:10 |
golinux | upgrade | 09:10 |
golinux | and also enable ceres and beowulf experimental repos | 09:11 |
golinux | You should go through beowulf | 09:12 |
golinux | Latrina: ^^^ | 09:12 |
Latrina | oh okay, I will beowful than | 09:14 |
Latrina | I love the name btw | 09:14 |
Latrina | running to work.. bye now :) | 09:14 |
golinux | Do you like the look too? https://dev1galaxy.org/files/meet-cinnabar-dark.png | 09:15 |
golinux | OK. Bye | 09:16 |
KatolaZ | golinux: there is no need to use experimental repos | 09:17 |
KatolaZ | and/or to keep ceres repos active in beowulf | 09:17 |
KatolaZ | please do not suggest it any more | 09:17 |
KatolaZ | especially now that buster is getting close to freeze | 09:17 |
KatolaZ | bbl | 09:18 |
golinux | KatolaZ: Ah. OK. I was told to do that at one point. | 09:19 |
* golinux goes to tidy up sources.list | 09:20 | |
nemo | heh. one of our systemd systems has gone completely bonkers | 16:39 |
nemo | and while I was browsing for tips on how to get it functioning again | 16:39 |
nemo | https://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?318467-SSH-not-starting | 16:39 |
nemo | "Linux used to enable network by default, and right after the boot, before any other stuff. Now that good ol' thing has gone the way of the pink elephants floating in a sea of lunacy, so, therefore" | 16:39 |
nemo | I sympathise | 16:39 |
iovec | nemo: if you want assistance and cannot migrate to a non systemd distribution just yet, #systemd would be happy to help (if you try to cooperate while they do that, as well) | 16:40 |
r3boot | I bet that filesystems got mounted before network gets started ;) (unless you're on one of those nfs-root based setups) | 16:40 |
nemo | I eventually got it working | 16:46 |
nemo | as much as I'd love to blamce systemd, it was Cylance this time | 16:46 |
nemo | I still blame systemd for my general debugging confusion 😉 | 16:46 |
nemo | but once I (eventually) realised that even gdb --args /usr/sbin/sshd -t was failing... | 16:46 |
ejr | hi, i am running devuan ceres and today rxvt-unicode received an upgrade when I ran apt-get upgrade. Since then the cursor in urxvt does not show anymore. What could be the reason? | 20:02 |
jonadab | Updated defaults? Dunno. | 20:26 |
jonadab | Check if there's an option for how the cursor should show. Most modern terminals have an option for that. | 20:26 |
ejr | jonadab: from all i could gather so far, the latest devuan upgrade broke urxvt | 23:33 |
jonadab | Not impossible. | 23:34 |
jonadab | If you're on ceres, it's possible that library versions get out of sync with packages that depend on them and stuff. | 23:34 |
golinux | ejr: We don't even have rxvt-unicode in ceres: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/d1pkgweb-query?search=rxvt-unicode&release=any | 23:38 |
golinux | Oops no oit is in there. Comes directly from Debian | 23:39 |
golinux | So go talk to them | 23:40 |
ejr | i think i will use this as a good reason to switch to st, which i wanted to do for a while anyways | 23:42 |
golinux | Your choice | 23:42 |
Wonka | "st"? | 23:49 |
golinux | I couldn't be bothered to ask that question | 23:51 |
golinux | Star Trek"? | 23:52 |
ejr | suckless terminal :P | 23:52 |
fsmithred | if it's from suckless.org, then it probably works | 23:55 |
ejr | except for transparency, i got everything working so far, yes. pretty neat too. | 23:56 |
MinceR | scrollbackless terminal :> | 23:57 |
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