libera/#devuan/ Thursday, 2019-03-28

Xenguy_w01:48
FlibberTGibbethi. 2 questions for the price of 1 :) how stable is beowulf currently, and is there a suggested pin list for upgrading from ascii?12:33
gnarfacecheck the fourms12:35
gnarfaceforums12:35
gnarfacethere might be a pin list12:36
gnarfacestability is reportedly fine for headless stuff, for the most part12:36
gnarfacegui stuff may still be problematic12:37
KatolaZFlibberTGibbet: you don't need any pin list any more12:41
FlibberTGibbetthanks gnarface, KatolaZ12:42
FlibberTGibbetsounds like it's worth trying in a fresh VM first to check the components i'm after12:44
KatolaZFlibberTGibbet: installing afresh is easier with the unstable mini.iso13:01
KatolaZhttps://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/unstable/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso13:02
KatolaZ^^ that's for amd6413:02
FlibberTGibbetKatolaZ: thanks. committed to upgrading the current VM however fingers crossed :)13:02
FlibberTGibbetwill give the mini.iso a try as a fresh install for comparison though13:03
Invader_Borkhi, is there an s6 install guide for devuan?16:43
KatolaZInvader_Bork: not yet16:46
KatolaZthere is an s6 package in the repo16:46
Invader_BorkKatolaZ, do I need to run any commands after installing that package?16:46
KatolaZInvader_Bork: you are on your own with that atm16:54
KatolaZany indication I can give would be misleading16:54
Invader_Borkare there any plans for it in the future? is anyone tasked with handling s6?16:57
KatolaZInvader_Bork: we are aiming at including s6/s6-rc in a future release, yes16:58
KatolaZif you are willing to help, you are welcome16:58
Invader_Borkatm i was just hoping to wrap my head around it17:17
Invader_Borki hoped that i could whip up a devuan s6 vm and start from there17:17
Invader_Borkthere isn't a lot of information about s617:17
Invader_Borkbut it seems to be pretty good17:17
Invader_BorkKatolaZ^17:17
KatolaZInvader_Bork: there will be an s6/s6-rc hacking session ad the Devuan conference17:17
KatolaZnext week17:18
Invader_Borkwill it be live streamed or recorded?17:18
Invader_Borki'm in europe but i can't make to ams17:19
KatolaZthe conference will be recorded and streamed17:19
KatolaZbut how do you stream a hacking session? :)17:19
tuxd3vHello Guys,17:24
tuxd3vGood Afternoon17:24
tuxd3vall17:24
ashleykdid anyone notice this spam?17:27
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sleepingkirbyashleyk: not here.17:29
Invader_BorkKatolaZ, do it like an old school telethon with coders in place of phone operators17:30
Invader_Borklol17:30
KatolaZ:D17:30
nemoI think most channels are still muted by default due to last year's spam attacks17:31
Invader_BorkKatolaZ, i'd pay a dollar for that17:31
KatolaZI guess most channels just went +r17:31
nemoon ours I require registration to talk publicly, or else your arrival from an autovoiced whitelist (which is currently only freenode's client)17:31
KatolaZwhich rules out a lot of spam already17:31
nemoI figured that was less hostile17:31
stripehi all installing ascii, how to kill display manager from tty so i can install the latest nvidia driver (service lightdm not recognised) cheers18:01
ashleykstripe, type runlevel18:03
ashleyki think its init 3 will work18:03
KatolaZstripe: which display manager are you using?18:04
stripeits the xfce desktop from cd118:04
ashleykhmm runlevel isnt a command apparently....but i think its init 4?  init 5 = X ?18:04
KatolaZas root18:04
KatolaZstripe: /etc/init.d/slim stop18:05
stripeah its slim, thanks guys18:05
KatolaZashleyk: what are you talking about?18:05
KatolaZashleyk: runlevel is under /sbin18:05
ashleykchanging runlevel from X runlevel to multi-user18:05
KatolaZ/sbin/runlevel18:05
ashleykoh, im not root, my bad18:06
KatolaZashleyk: there is no distinction between multi-user and X in Debian18:06
KatolaZand so in Devuan18:06
KatolaZsince I can remember :)18:06
ashleyk@_@18:06
KatolaZthat is something used by RedHat-derived distros :)18:06
ashleykoh, so its non-standard, nice! lol18:06
ashleykhow come it works in slackware18:06
KatolaZashleyk: there is no standard about that18:06
KatolaZat all18:06
KatolaZjust because slackware opted for a different runlevel structure18:07
KatolaZ:)18:07
ashleykhttps://www.networkworld.com/article/2693438/unix-how-to-the-linux-etc-inittab-file.html18:07
ashleyk#   5 - X1118:07
ashleyk#   3 - Full multiuser mode18:07
KatolaZashleyk: which standard are you talking about exactly?18:07
ashleykthe 20 years old standard18:07
KatolaZwhich one?18:08
KatolaZcan you name it, please?18:08
ashleykAIX?18:08
KatolaZwhich standard?18:08
KatolaZAIX is not a standard18:08
KatolaZAIX is a sysv implementation18:08
ashleykok, well, then saying normal things that usually work, dont work anymore, fine, whatever18:09
ashleykwho runs X anyway? lol18:09
KatolaZashleyk: you cited a standard18:09
KatolaZbut you can't name it :)18:09
KatolaZthis has never been standard18:10
KatolaZthe runlevel configuration has always been a choice of the implementation/distribution18:10
ashleykah, only 0, 1 and 6 were standards18:12
KatolaZashleyk: :)18:13
gnarfaceashleyk: you can still make it do that if you want, you know.18:13
ashleyki assumed they were all standard because everyone ued them18:13
gnarfaceredhat used them18:13
gnarfacethat's why everyone used them18:13
KatolaZnot everyone again18:13
ashleykim from before redhat existed lol18:13
KatolaZSuSe started using runlevel 4 for X and then switched to 518:13
KatolaZsolaris had runlevel 3 initially, then 518:14
KatolaZother sysv implementations did different things18:14
KatolaZit's basically down to the sysadmin18:14
ashleykok18:16
gnarfaceso presets is another update-rc.d feature needed18:16
_abc_Hello. fsmithred ? Can you please remind me what that refracta based usb stick thing was called, with multiple bootable things on it?19:50
watchcati just use my cellphone to boot various iso's. 'drivedroid' app.19:58
_abc_netboot?19:58
watchcatusb19:59
_abc_Yeah, ok, I need it on a usb stick.20:01
golinux_abc_: refracta2usb21:53
golinuxhttps://refracta.org/docs/readme.refracta2usb.txt21:54
golinuxhttps://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/tools/21:55
golinux_abc_: ^^^21:55
_abc_golinux: thanks22:06
_abc_Great I already had one of them bookmarked from last time. Duh.22:07
_abc_Thanks.22:07

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